does prayer accomplish anything?

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So god has a plan and God knows all thats going to happen before it happens. And why does God know this? Because he planned for it to happen long before we were even born.

^^^ CHRISTIAN PHILOSOPHY ON GOD...

Taking that logic (which is Christian logic) into account. There is no need to pray.

SELFISH PRAYER: "God please save my grandmother from cancer"

According to Christian Logic: God gave your grandmother cancer and it is already preordained whether she will die from it or not. WHY PRAY?

non-selfish prayer: "Thank You God for blessing me with 2 beautiful children."

According to Christian Logic: You were going to have those kids if you wanted them or not. God already planned those kids for you.

Thus nothing is in your control. both Muslims & Christians say, "LORD WILLING" in any situation. Thus, it's the Lord's will/plan no matter what. Prayer or no prayer. Religion itself and the belief in an all-knowing, omnipotent God renders prayer pointless.
 
Darxwell;5574448 said:
So god has a plan and God knows all thats going to happen before it happens. And why does God know this? Because he planned for it to happen long before we were even born.

^^^ CHRISTIAN PHILOSOPHY ON GOD...

Taking that logic (which is Christian logic) into account. There is no need to pray.

SELFISH PRAYER: "God please save my grandmother from cancer"

According to Christian Logic: God gave your grandmother cancer and it is already preordained whether she will die from it or not. WHY PRAY?

non-selfish prayer: "Thank You God for blessing me with 2 beautiful children."

According to Christian Logic: You were going to have those kids if you wanted them or not. God already planned those kids for you.

Thus nothing is in your control. both Muslims & Christians say, "LORD WILLING" in any situation. Thus, it's the Lord's will/plan no matter what. Prayer or no prayer. Religion itself and the belief in an all-knowing, omnipotent God renders prayer pointless.

Exactly, just more bullshit.
 
prayer does work and god does not predetermine every little thing only christians of the calvinist influence hold to the doctrine of predestination.
 
zombie;5574555 said:
prayer does work and god does not predetermine every little thing only christians of the calvinist influence hold to the doctrine of predestination.

You beat me to it bruh...

I doubt this will receive a rebuttal.

 
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If you are being of the 8th dimension according physics you will be able to see all strands of possibilities. So God can see all possibilities, but knows what it is in your heart, but you can choose. He just knows every route you will take.
 

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