does prayer accomplish anything?

[blacktux]

Even though i am stone athiest now at the time i was religious prayer provided a great time of solace and reflection for me. It might sound weird (might not to religious folks) but some times speaking to yourself really helps you slow things down and sort things out.

Nowadays prayer is replaced by meditation during hard times, every time there is a problem the answer is within...you just have to spend some time within yourself and find the answers.

 

[MARIO_DRO]

PRAYER CAN NEVER BE REPLACED.. JUST LIKE GOD CAN'T BE REPLACED. . THAT'S THE PROBLEM NOW. . EVERYONE THINKS THAT THEY KNOW IT ALL AND THEY HAVE EVERYTHING IN CONTROL.... YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE LITTLE PETTY PROBLEMS THAT YALL HAVE NOW SO HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY THINK YOU REALLY "KNOW"

 

[kzzl]

This gif>>>>> This thread.

 

[blu197]

Prayer is only meant for you to spiritually connect with God/Jesus, not for you to ask for things like he's Santa Claus of something... Everything that you get in this world you earn, you control your own destiny and make your own decisions

 

[BeleeDatPleighboy]

Those that go to God with a grocery list of request really not tapping into true power that prayer provides.

 

[AZTG]

The way prayer works is, if you have a problem, you pray to God, and in doing so, you relieve tension and stress, and with stress and tension relieved, you handle your business and make decisions, and without stress, you make better decisions and thats how it works.

Now, personally I do not belive in God but I can understand how it works for those who do. About the question of not being able to handle petty stuff so how can I "know?" I gave up trying to know a long time ago. Knowing gives me nothing. Life is what you make it, I rather spend my time on making my life better and spend my time on what effects me, "knowing" wont really change much, and spending time trying to "know" is time wasted imo.

 

[Melanin_Enriched]

I usually just fap to relieve stress but i can see how prayer could work.

 

[NIKE...]

I'm startin to think t/s is some kind of loser b..all his threads sound like he lives in a shitbox of a house and drinks 40's and smokes swishers (without the weed) all day..

 

[Premeer]

brah.. prayer is everything. i could go on and on, but ill just give you an example.

i was diagnosed with depression for like 8+ years.. i swore i was bi-polar tho.. highs of highs and lows of lows.. it was terrible.

but after a while, you begin to realize that these meds aint curing shit.. all they do is temporarily fix you for a couple days, then you gotta go back in and up your dosage. and its just a continuous cycle.. then those pills, lead to other sicknesses and MORE pills.. and its just a vicious cycle they put you in.

and around the time i started taking being a christian a little more serious, keeping my head in the Bible .. made it a daily routine. and God said hes a healer...

but before i started reading the Bible, i couldnt understand shit lol. but i knew it was true so i asked God in prayer to help me understand.. so boom. i started reading and things started coming together.

God said he was a healer.. and something told me 1 morning to leave those pills alone and start praying ... so i threw the pills out and started praying to help my depression.. to give me happiness and mental strength to get through those lows and stay high..

within a week, depression was a non-factor in my life.

all depression is is YOU stuck in your thoughts beating yourself up.. you have to change your thoughts and you can change your life. God taught me that.

of course every now and again you might still hit a low, but thats expected. not nearly as low, tho and lasts a night at the most. prayer built me up, strong, solid, sturdy emotionally, mentally, and gave me wisdom / understanding, etc.. just through prayer.

 

[Trollio]

^^i pray you never type a titangraph again

 

[aneed123]

the honest truth is prayer is a coping mechanism just like faith... it gives you that hope so u dont give up during turmoil or thru trials and tribulations... I jut cant see God pickin and choosing who lives and dies and whose prayer to answer like that esp when two good hearted people pray for the same thing... a LOT OF SHIT IS JUST RANDOM....Ive had things I prayed for answered and things Ive prayed for unanswered....

 

[HarlemThumzUp]

i can say that when i stopped praying all sorts of fuck shit was happenin...

 

[Premeer]

^^i pray you never type a titangraph again

a titangraph is 1 big block of words. i dont do those.

 

[DarcSkies]

prayer does work

Prayer makes people feel better thats for certain. But it hasnt been proven to "work."

There have been studies in the medical field where they claim a certain percentage of people who prayed vs. people who didnt pray were healed of their sickness at a higher rate. What they fail to mention is that it didnt work for patients with heart disease. So apparently God doesnt give a fuck about heart patients. But if you have diabetes he may just hear you out.

and god does not predetermine every little thing only christians of the calvinist influence hold to the doctrine of predestination.

Please find me a Christian in this modern day & age that doesnt believe "god has a plan and controls all things at all times for his own reasons."

I never claimed every single Christian believed it. BUt its a fact that the vast majority do. You cant build your rebuttal on the 15 to 20 Christians who dont actually believe that God has a predetermined plan for us all (while at the same time believing in free will by the way..which is retarded.)



Unfortunately this is Christian logic:



Positive Outcome: AINT GOD GOOD!? PRAYER WORKS YALL!

Negative Outcome: OH LAWD, THE DEVIL BUSY AINT HE YALL?!



Christian Attitude Before Prayer: LETS PRAY YALL! OUR GOD IS AN AWESOME GOD...HE'LL SEE US THROUGH!



Christian Attitude AFTER Prayer and Negative Outcome: WELL YALL IT WAS THE LORDS WILL THIS HAPPENED. YOU MAY NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS HIS PLAN. BUT THE GOOD LAWD KNOWS BEST. YOUR 2 YEAR OLD DYING OF CANCER WAS ACTUALLY GOD's WAY OF SHOWING YOU YOU ARE SKRONG LOL (then WTF did you pray for if the outcome was predetermined?) LOL

 

[Premeer]

prayer does work

Prayer makes people feel better thats for certain. But it hasnt been proven to "work."

There have been studies in the medical field where they claim a certain percentage of people who prayed vs. people who didnt pray were healed of their sickness at a higher rate. What they fail to mention is that it didnt work for patients with heart disease. So apparently God doesnt give a fuck about heart patients. But if you have diabetes he may just hear you out.

and god does not predetermine every little thing only christians of the calvinist influence hold to the doctrine of predestination.

Please find me a Christian in this modern day & age that doesnt believe "god has a plan and controls all things at all times for his own reasons."

I never claimed every single Christian believed it. BUt its a fact that the vast majority do. You cant build your rebuttal on the 15 to 20 Christians who dont actually believe that God has a predetermined plan for us all (while at the same time believing in free will by the way..which is retarded.)



Unfortunately this is Christian logic:



Positive Outcome: AINT GOD GOOD!? PRAYER WORKS YALL!

Negative Outcome: OH LAWD, THE DEVIL BUSY AINT HE YALL?!



Christian Attitude Before Prayer: LETS PRAY YALL! OUR GOD IS AN AWESOME GOD...HE'LL SEE US THROUGH!



Christian Attitude AFTER Prayer and Negative Outcome: WELL YALL IT WAS THE LORDS WILL THIS HAPPENED. YOU MAY NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS HIS PLAN. BUT THE GOOD LAWD KNOWS BEST. YOUR 2 YEAR OLD DYING OF CANCER WAS ACTUALLY GOD's WAY OF SHOWING YOU YOU ARE SKRONG LOL (then WTF did you pray for if the outcome was predetermined?) LOL

shut the fuck up.

 

[Go figure]

Even tho my beliefs have changed over time and i don't rely on prayer anymore, in my opinion having some sort of spirituality and being conscious of a "higher level of energy" is better for your health and mind than just focusing on things as is.

But like darc said I see it as a coping mechanism and I can understand why people of faith believe in it.

 

[IamtheVILLE]

PRAYER CAN NEVER BE REPLACED.. JUST LIKE GOD CAN'T BE REPLACED. . THAT'S THE PROBLEM NOW. . EVERYONE THINKS THAT THEY KNOW IT ALL AND THEY HAVE EVERYTHING IN CONTROL.... YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE LITTLE PETTY PROBLEMS THAT YALL HAVE NOW SO HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY THINK YOU REALLY "KNOW"

so if god knows all why the hell he fuck niggaZ over during slavery? niggaZ was prayin everyday. even why the master was rappin the women and men and beatin them to a bloody pulp but god is real. yeah right. niggaZ love god more than god loves itself but yet niggaZ are the most hated people on the earth. explain that shit dip shit. also how is god real when africans didnt believe in god before slavery?

 

[Premeer]

PRAYER CAN NEVER BE REPLACED.. JUST LIKE GOD CAN'T BE REPLACED. . THAT'S THE PROBLEM NOW. . EVERYONE THINKS THAT THEY KNOW IT ALL AND THEY HAVE EVERYTHING IN CONTROL.... YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE LITTLE PETTY PROBLEMS THAT YALL HAVE NOW SO HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY THINK YOU REALLY "KNOW"

so if god knows all why the hell he fuck niggaZ over during slavery? niggaZ was prayin everyday. even why the master was rappin the women and men and beatin them to a bloody pulp but god is real. yeah right. niggaZ love god more than god loves itself but yet niggaZ are the most hated people on the earth. explain that shit dip shit. also how is god real when africans didnt believe in god before slavery?

whens the last time you picked up the Bible.. whens the last time you spoke with God.... what you know about God...

ill wait.

 

[zombie]

prayer does work

Prayer makes people feel better thats for certain. But it hasnt been proven to "work."

There have been studies in the medical field where they claim a certain percentage of people who prayed vs. people who didnt pray were healed of their sickness at a higher rate. What they fail to mention is that it didnt work for patients with heart disease. So apparently God doesnt give a fuck about heart patients. But if you have diabetes he may just hear you out.

and god does not predetermine every little thing only christians of the calvinist influence hold to the doctrine of predestination.

Please find me a Christian in this modern day & age that doesnt believe "god has a plan and controls all things at all times for his own reasons."

I never claimed every single Christian believed it. BUt its a fact that the vast majority do. You cant build your rebuttal on the 15 to 20 Christians who dont actually believe that God has a predetermined plan for us all (while at the same time believing in free will by the way..which is retarded.)



Unfortunately this is Christian logic:



Positive Outcome: AINT GOD GOOD!? PRAYER WORKS YALL!

Negative Outcome: OH LAWD, THE DEVIL BUSY AINT HE YALL?!



Christian Attitude Before Prayer: LETS PRAY YALL! OUR GOD IS AN AWESOME GOD...HE'LL SEE US THROUGH!



Christian Attitude AFTER Prayer and Negative Outcome: WELL YALL IT WAS THE LORDS WILL THIS HAPPENED. YOU MAY NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS HIS PLAN. BUT THE GOOD LAWD KNOWS BEST. YOUR 2 YEAR OLD DYING OF CANCER WAS ACTUALLY GOD's WAY OF SHOWING YOU YOU ARE SKRONG LOL (then WTF did you pray for if the outcome was predetermined?) LOL

when you say predestination do you mean in the eternal sense meaning, god knows who is going to hell or do you mean predestination for mundane things like what i will have for breakfast next friday.

whoever told you that god is here to stop pain and death lied to you, 2 year olds die all the time but god loves me you or the child no less but it's not really a promise of god to stop earthly pain and death in fact he tells us there will be pain and death lots of it.

 

[zombie]

PRAYER CAN NEVER BE REPLACED.. JUST LIKE GOD CAN'T BE REPLACED. . THAT'S THE PROBLEM NOW. . EVERYONE THINKS THAT THEY KNOW IT ALL AND THEY HAVE EVERYTHING IN CONTROL.... YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE LITTLE PETTY PROBLEMS THAT YALL HAVE NOW SO HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY THINK YOU REALLY "KNOW"

so if god knows all why the hell he fuck niggaZ over during slavery? niggaZ was prayin everyday. even why the master was rappin the women and men and beatin them to a bloody pulp but god is real. yeah right. niggaZ love god more than god loves itself but yet niggaZ are the most hated people on the earth. explain that shit dip shit. also how is god real when africans didnt believe in god before slavery?

It's not gods job to deliver your ass from physical slavery it's yours, faith without works is dead so if you don't take it on yourself to do something about your situation and believe god is on your side then things will stay the same. God is not a genie that will give you whatever you want just because you ask.

If god's prophets often suffered and he never saved them from feeling pain what makes you think he is going to swing down and stop you from feeling it. do you realize jesus got his ass beat nailed to a cross and died, don't you see the message god it trying to convey in that story.