Does Jay Z Have A "One Hot Album Every 10 Year Average"?

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GetoBoy;6822296 said:
Vol 1 & Vol 2 are just average??? Smh....wtf grading scale are you using??? If 95% of rappers released those albums they'd be praised as great albums but since jay dropped em they're average that's like lebron dropping a triple double and ppl saying it's just a ok game just cuz its lebron...

If we're really being honest the grading scale is different for jay then it is for other rappers so average for him would be above average for others....but if you believe his catalog is "average" who's catalog do you consider above average/great cuz I'm pretty sure jay's is right on par with who ever you can name

No disrespect bruh...but you do have A Rocafella chain in your avi..So i'm pretty sure you think everything he did was great
 
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DopeGameCocaine;6819067 said:
Jay been active for 18 years. I'll be be conservative on the hot albums, and name the ones that most think were pretty good at least. I would put 2 more in there if it were up to me, but i'll be objective.

(96 - 06) RD, Vol. 1, BP, BA,(06 - Present) AG, WTT

(96 - 06) 4 (06 - Present) 2

2 Ten year periods to speak of.

4 + 2 = 6

6/2

3 Hot albums per ten year average.

The answer is No.

Gentlemen, I present to you. Math. Carry on

Ain't been 10 years. Besides people started since his retirement and return which would be 2004-2014.

I still think the answer is no.
 
TrillRussell;6822405 said:
semi-auto-mato;6822338 said:
TrillRussell;6821960 said:
semi-auto-mato;6818144 said:
ok i cant...i just cant...the nigga said u can ONLY consider like 3 or 4 of them classics like thats a bad thing lmao like mutha phuckas is dropping classics every other week. smh

Just like Nas got 3 classics..But the average knock against his legacy is how inconsistent his discography is..Right?..but oh when it's Jay that logic is off limits and inaccurate ?

first i dont believe that neither nas nor jay has 3 classics. next i dont see jay legacy as being inconsistent. his legacy is one of the greatest rappers of all time. u dont get in the goat discussion by being inconsistent. the nigga dropped albums year after year after when niggas was taking 3 years in between albums. the nigga became a face of hip hop. now its just cool to question jay's legacy cuz lets face it...dude damn near 50 and folks tired of seeing this old nigga winning in a young man's game. so yup im one of those niggas that say leave jay the fuck alone. the nigga should have a status like the rolling stones or bruce springsteen. niggas like jay and nas (i will add) legacy shouldnt be questioned. we shouldnt try to break these niggas down by saying o their catalogue is inconsistent. only in hip hop...smh

Well I'm 1 of those niggas that believes if A certain logic applies to 1 legend it should apply to all..So if we gone talk about how inconsistent other legends discography is then it should apply to Jay too..idgaf about that status shit...If he got 8 albums of hit or miss music then that's just what it is..why should we ignore it or overlook it for him but it be ok to call other legends out on their shaky catalogue of music?..it's only fair

im not sure what we are overlooking? u are not gonna like every album so because u dont like an album that means dude is inconsistent? u should respect status. status is earned not giving so that means if a nigga earns the status of a legend then respect that. if u dont respect it then u dont respect hip hop at all.

there are legends who dont even have 8 albums.

 
TrillRussell;6822411 said:
GetoBoy;6822296 said:
Vol 1 & Vol 2 are just average??? Smh....wtf grading scale are you using??? If 95% of rappers released those albums they'd be praised as great albums but since jay dropped em they're average that's like lebron dropping a triple double and ppl saying it's just a ok game just cuz its lebron...

If we're really being honest the grading scale is different for jay then it is for other rappers so average for him would be above average for others....but if you believe his catalog is "average" who's catalog do you consider above average/great cuz I'm pretty sure jay's is right on par with who ever you can name

No disrespect bruh...but you do have A Rocafella chain in your avi..So i'm pretty sure you think everything he did was great

I feel you that Vol. 2 was average. What made that album his highest selling was the singles. "Hard Knock Life", "Can I Get A...", "N**** What, N**** Who (Originator '99)", "Money Ain't A Thing" (Bonus track) and "Money Cash H***". The rest of that the album was teetering average to below-average. Vol. 1 is difficult to judge because the album cuts were so strong, even the street singles. The two tracks that fuck it up are "I Know What Girls Like" and "(Always Be My) Sunshine". But you can't deny the rest of the LP makes it above-average. "Streets Is Watching", "Where I'm From", "Lucky Me", "The City Is Mine", "A Million and One Questions/Rhyme No More", and "You Must Love Me" rank amongst the Top 20 to 25 tracks he's made in his career in my opinion.
 
semi-auto-mato;6822431 said:
TrillRussell;6822405 said:
semi-auto-mato;6822338 said:
TrillRussell;6821960 said:
semi-auto-mato;6818144 said:
ok i cant...i just cant...the nigga said u can ONLY consider like 3 or 4 of them classics like thats a bad thing lmao like mutha phuckas is dropping classics every other week. smh

Just like Nas got 3 classics..But the average knock against his legacy is how inconsistent his discography is..Right?..but oh when it's Jay that logic is off limits and inaccurate ?

first i dont believe that neither nas nor jay has 3 classics. next i dont see jay legacy as being inconsistent. his legacy is one of the greatest rappers of all time. u dont get in the goat discussion by being inconsistent. the nigga dropped albums year after year after when niggas was taking 3 years in between albums. the nigga became a face of hip hop. now its just cool to question jay's legacy cuz lets face it...dude damn near 50 and folks tired of seeing this old nigga winning in a young man's game. so yup im one of those niggas that say leave jay the fuck alone. the nigga should have a status like the rolling stones or bruce springsteen. niggas like jay and nas (i will add) legacy shouldnt be questioned. we shouldnt try to break these niggas down by saying o their catalogue is inconsistent. only in hip hop...smh

Well I'm 1 of those niggas that believes if A certain logic applies to 1 legend it should apply to all..So if we gone talk about how inconsistent other legends discography is then it should apply to Jay too..idgaf about that status shit...If he got 8 albums of hit or miss music then that's just what it is..why should we ignore it or overlook it for him but it be ok to call other legends out on their shaky catalogue of music?..it's only fair

im not sure what we are overlooking? u are not gonna like every album so because u dont like an album that means dude is inconsistent? u should respect status. status is earned not giving so that means if a nigga earns the status of a legend then respect that. if u dont respect it then u dont respect hip hop at all.

there are legends who dont even have 8 albums.

Just like Nas,2pac,Cube,And Em have legendary statuses.....but people call them out all the time for their discography outside of their unarguable classics..So why is Jay off limits?..Jay aint godly..If it's cool to call other legends out then he's not exempt from the same treatment..that's all i'm saying
 
TrillRussell;6822454 said:
semi-auto-mato;6822431 said:
TrillRussell;6822405 said:
semi-auto-mato;6822338 said:
TrillRussell;6821960 said:
semi-auto-mato;6818144 said:
ok i cant...i just cant...the nigga said u can ONLY consider like 3 or 4 of them classics like thats a bad thing lmao like mutha phuckas is dropping classics every other week. smh

Just like Nas got 3 classics..But the average knock against his legacy is how inconsistent his discography is..Right?..but oh when it's Jay that logic is off limits and inaccurate ?

first i dont believe that neither nas nor jay has 3 classics. next i dont see jay legacy as being inconsistent. his legacy is one of the greatest rappers of all time. u dont get in the goat discussion by being inconsistent. the nigga dropped albums year after year after when niggas was taking 3 years in between albums. the nigga became a face of hip hop. now its just cool to question jay's legacy cuz lets face it...dude damn near 50 and folks tired of seeing this old nigga winning in a young man's game. so yup im one of those niggas that say leave jay the fuck alone. the nigga should have a status like the rolling stones or bruce springsteen. niggas like jay and nas (i will add) legacy shouldnt be questioned. we shouldnt try to break these niggas down by saying o their catalogue is inconsistent. only in hip hop...smh

Well I'm 1 of those niggas that believes if A certain logic applies to 1 legend it should apply to all..So if we gone talk about how inconsistent other legends discography is then it should apply to Jay too..idgaf about that status shit...If he got 8 albums of hit or miss music then that's just what it is..why should we ignore it or overlook it for him but it be ok to call other legends out on their shaky catalogue of music?..it's only fair

im not sure what we are overlooking? u are not gonna like every album so because u dont like an album that means dude is inconsistent? u should respect status. status is earned not giving so that means if a nigga earns the status of a legend then respect that. if u dont respect it then u dont respect hip hop at all.

there are legends who dont even have 8 albums.

Just like Nas,2pac,Cube,And Em have legendary statuses.....but people call them out all the time for their discography outside of their unarguable classics..So why is Jay off limits?..Jay aint godly..If it's cool to call other legends out then he's not exempt from the same treatment..that's all i'm saying

and i say to u to be different. its like warren sapp saying strahan dont deserve to be in the hall. the nigga is a the sack leader. he put that work in to be in the hall. it dont matter what era, what team, what position. respect the nigga work. respect all them niggas u named up there. people call folks out because the lack respect, knowledge, and a genuine love for the culture so the try to break down all those who have contributed to culture in a great way by saying he aint that nice. he is average. dont be like them...smh

 
TrillRussell;6821960 said:
semi-auto-mato;6818144 said:
ok i cant...i just cant...the nigga said u can ONLY consider like 3 or 4 of them classics like thats a bad thing lmao like mutha phuckas is dropping classics every other week. smh

Just like Nas got 3 classics..But the average knock against his legacy is how inconsistent his discography is..Right?..but oh when it's Jay that logic is off limits and inaccurate ?

first time hearing this.....ever
 
semi-auto-mato;6822477 said:
TrillRussell;6822454 said:
semi-auto-mato;6822431 said:
TrillRussell;6822405 said:
semi-auto-mato;6822338 said:
TrillRussell;6821960 said:
semi-auto-mato;6818144 said:
ok i cant...i just cant...the nigga said u can ONLY consider like 3 or 4 of them classics like thats a bad thing lmao like mutha phuckas is dropping classics every other week. smh

Just like Nas got 3 classics..But the average knock against his legacy is how inconsistent his discography is..Right?..but oh when it's Jay that logic is off limits and inaccurate ?

first i dont believe that neither nas nor jay has 3 classics. next i dont see jay legacy as being inconsistent. his legacy is one of the greatest rappers of all time. u dont get in the goat discussion by being inconsistent. the nigga dropped albums year after year after when niggas was taking 3 years in between albums. the nigga became a face of hip hop. now its just cool to question jay's legacy cuz lets face it...dude damn near 50 and folks tired of seeing this old nigga winning in a young man's game. so yup im one of those niggas that say leave jay the fuck alone. the nigga should have a status like the rolling stones or bruce springsteen. niggas like jay and nas (i will add) legacy shouldnt be questioned. we shouldnt try to break these niggas down by saying o their catalogue is inconsistent. only in hip hop...smh

Well I'm 1 of those niggas that believes if A certain logic applies to 1 legend it should apply to all..So if we gone talk about how inconsistent other legends discography is then it should apply to Jay too..idgaf about that status shit...If he got 8 albums of hit or miss music then that's just what it is..why should we ignore it or overlook it for him but it be ok to call other legends out on their shaky catalogue of music?..it's only fair

im not sure what we are overlooking? u are not gonna like every album so because u dont like an album that means dude is inconsistent? u should respect status. status is earned not giving so that means if a nigga earns the status of a legend then respect that. if u dont respect it then u dont respect hip hop at all.

there are legends who dont even have 8 albums.

Just like Nas,2pac,Cube,And Em have legendary statuses.....but people call them out all the time for their discography outside of their unarguable classics..So why is Jay off limits?..Jay aint godly..If it's cool to call other legends out then he's not exempt from the same treatment..that's all i'm saying

and i say to u to be different. its like warren sapp saying strahan dont deserve to be in the hall. the nigga is a the sack leader. he put that work in to be in the hall. it dont matter what era, what team, what position. respect the nigga work. respect all them niggas u named up there. people call folks out because the lack respect, knowledge, and a genuine love for the culture so the try to break down all those who have contributed to culture in a great way by saying he aint that nice. he is average. dont be like them...smh

And I respect your stance..but i'm mainly speaking to the stans and hypocrites that use that logic when it comes to other legends in the game but when that same logic comes back to bite their favorite rapper they catch feelings..

 
ericb4prez;6822522 said:
So am I the only nigga that took points away from the black album after he came back

nope...the whole this is my farewell album and im retiring thing gave the black album a special feel. its still a great album imo but i felt a lil different about it when he came back.

 
Already Home_17;6822495 said:
TrillRussell;6821960 said:
semi-auto-mato;6818144 said:
ok i cant...i just cant...the nigga said u can ONLY consider like 3 or 4 of them classics like thats a bad thing lmao like mutha phuckas is dropping classics every other week. smh

Just like Nas got 3 classics..But the average knock against his legacy is how inconsistent his discography is..Right?..but oh when it's Jay that logic is off limits and inaccurate ?

first time hearing this.....ever

Niggas took that "1 Hot album every 10 year average" line fired at Nas and made it the bible when pertaining to his discography...stop it bruh lol

 
Jay has two classics.

Plus two hot albums.

The Takeover equation never made sense to begin with considering the time period.
 
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IMO Jay has not got any classics. After I hear a few tracks into any of his albums I feel nauseous. Just the way he raps and the lack of emotion behind his words. Some of the beats are good, but he not to be praised for them.
 
TrillRussell;6822595 said:
Already Home_17;6822495 said:
TrillRussell;6821960 said:
semi-auto-mato;6818144 said:
ok i cant...i just cant...the nigga said u can ONLY consider like 3 or 4 of them classics like thats a bad thing lmao like mutha phuckas is dropping classics every other week. smh

Just like Nas got 3 classics..But the average knock against his legacy is how inconsistent his discography is..Right?..but oh when it's Jay that logic is off limits and inaccurate ?

first time hearing this.....ever

Niggas took that "1 Hot album every 10 year average" line fired at Nas and made it the bible when pertaining to his discography...stop it bruh lol

i never heard even the most delusional jay stan share those sentiments towards nas's discography
 
The sad thing about it tho is atleast when he said that about nas it was refutable because It was written was pretty good. Jay cant even say the same for his ten year shit
 
Already Home_17;6822659 said:
TrillRussell;6822595 said:
Already Home_17;6822495 said:
TrillRussell;6821960 said:
semi-auto-mato;6818144 said:
ok i cant...i just cant...the nigga said u can ONLY consider like 3 or 4 of them classics like thats a bad thing lmao like mutha phuckas is dropping classics every other week. smh

Just like Nas got 3 classics..But the average knock against his legacy is how inconsistent his discography is..Right?..but oh when it's Jay that logic is off limits and inaccurate ?

first time hearing this.....ever

Niggas took that "1 Hot album every 10 year average" line fired at Nas and made it the bible when pertaining to his discography...stop it bruh lol

i never heard even the most delusional jay stan share those sentiments towards nas's discography

Check some of those old "Jayz vs Nas" threads...you'll prolly find a few

 
Already Home_17;6822495 said:
TrillRussell;6821960 said:
semi-auto-mato;6818144 said:
ok i cant...i just cant...the nigga said u can ONLY consider like 3 or 4 of them classics like thats a bad thing lmao like mutha phuckas is dropping classics every other week. smh

Just like Nas got 3 classics..But the average knock against his legacy is how inconsistent his discography is..Right?..but oh when it's Jay that logic is off limits and inaccurate ?

first time hearing this.....ever

Man the same niggas in here talking will say that Nastradamus is a hot album . ..every nas album is a classic in their mind... I've seen those same niggas defend some of nas's worse songs/album
 
texasdaking88;6822820 said:
Already Home_17;6822495 said:
TrillRussell;6821960 said:
semi-auto-mato;6818144 said:
ok i cant...i just cant...the nigga said u can ONLY consider like 3 or 4 of them classics like thats a bad thing lmao like mutha phuckas is dropping classics every other week. smh

Just like Nas got 3 classics..But the average knock against his legacy is how inconsistent his discography is..Right?..but oh when it's Jay that logic is off limits and inaccurate ?

first time hearing this.....ever

Man the same niggas in here talking will say that Nastradamus is a hot album . ..every nas album is a classic in their mind... I've seen those same niggas defend some of nas's worse songs/album

I've seen more Jay stans with this mindset than Nas stans.....i'm not really A big fan of either..I appreciate the culture period..and I just believe if A logic applies to 1 legend it should apply to all..Jay aint exempt from being called out if Niggas will call other legends out without hesistation..I don't see homie as A godlike figure like alot of niggas on here..i'm sorry

 
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