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Valentinez A. Kaiser
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VIBE86;3980981 said:The limit would be one or two children.
would this limit be for everyone? i.e. regardless or race, wealth, status etc
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Valentinez A. Kaiser;3981016 said:would this limit be for everyone? i.e. regardless or race, wealth, status etc
Yes, for all in the U.S.
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MsSouthern
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No
but there should be a law that allows dead beat parents to be fixed if they can't support the children they currently have
but there should be a law that allows dead beat parents to be fixed if they can't support the children they currently have
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VIBE86;3980968 said:On how many children we can have?
Seeing as we've reached 7 billion and are using up resources faster than ever, and we're contributing to pollution or global warming, should we see something like this?
I can see the negative in it, such as someone wanting a boy and it's a girl and they abort or what not.
Maybe after a birth the woman AND the man are "fixed", so that would fix the problem if further having more.
What do you think?
i think we should.. hasnt China alrdy started this there.. i thought i remember hearing something about this.. (could be worng but i dont think so) but it wont happen people want to keep
having kids REGARDLESS if they can even take care of them so global pollution, global warming are the least of their concerns
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mssouthernthang;3981028 said:No
but there should be a law that allows dead beat parents to be fixed if they can't support the children they currently have
Not only would a limit on children allow us to use less resources, it would help the fact not so many dead beat parents rape the system w gov. assistance.
I dont see how fixing dead beat parents would work, would they call them in or arrest them then fix them?
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jusdre313;3981033 said:i think we should.. hasnt China alrdy started this there.. i thought i remember hearing something about this.. (could be worng but i dont think so) but it wont happen people want to keep
having kids REGARDLESS if they can even take care of them so global pollution, global warming are the least of their concerns
That's the reason I brought it up, I heard about a story in China where a woman was on her second kid and they threatened her w charges or an abortion, she fled and had the kid else where and returned at a later time (kid was a bit older now), they're now gonna charge her.
IMO it would be a good idea, we could fix what problems we have now. If we could do it and China does, maybe the rest of the world could follow and see the good it would do.
I have 4 kids but I wouldn't complain of they were limited to 1 or 2 kids when they were older.
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Will Munny
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IF the whole world lived at the population density of New York City we could fit the entire earths population in the state of Texas.
The world population hasn't reached crisis levels yet.
The world population hasn't reached crisis levels yet.
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MsSouthern
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VIBE86;3981043 said:Not only would a limit on children allow us to use less resources, it would help the fact not so many dead beat parents rape the system w gov. assistance.
I dont see how fixing dead beat parents would work, would they call them in or arrest them then fix them?
I think if you can afford to have kids and be pro-active in their lives then the government should have no say so in how many you have
I heard about this judge in Kentucky that offered to zero out the money this guy owed to the state for his 5 or 6 kids ( I believe ) in return he had to get a vasectemy. If you put it out there like that .... I am willing to be alot of people would take advantage of the situation.
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will munny;3981057 said:if the whole world lived at the population density of new york city we could fit the entire earths population in the state of texas.
The world population hasn't reached crisis levels yet.
gtfoh.....
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mssouthernthang;3981059 said:I think if you can afford to have kids and be pro-active in their lives then the government should have no say so in how many you have
I heard about this judge in Kentucky that offered to zero out the money this guy owed to the state for his 5 or 6 kids ( I believe ) in return he had to get a vasectemy. If you put it out there like that .... I am willing to be alot of people would take advantage of the situation.
c/s and your other post as well. i dont know how someone would class it necessarily.. you know requiremnt wise. but im a firm believer in this if you cant afford the children you have and CONTINOUSLY having more ( i.e the one bitch with the 12 kids and beggin for more assistance) then in exchange for that assistance there should be some type of severe ramifications like vasectemy/ tubes tied.
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sboogie;3981068 said:no disrespect, but some of y'all are dumb as fuck...
Because you disagree?
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mssouthernthang;3981059 said:I think if you can afford to have kids and be pro-active in their lives then the government should have no say so in how many you have
I heard about this judge in Kentucky that offered to zero out the money this guy owed to the state for his 5 or 6 kids ( I believe ) in return he had to get a vasectemy. If you put it out there like that .... I am willing to be alot of people would take advantage of the situation.
So you're okay w these kids who aren't being supported by dead beats but okay allowing your tax $$ go to them?
Imagine a limit, there wouldn't be women or men w 4 children on WIC, food stamps or cash aid being paid for by people who actually work. It would be half or less of kids being supported by tax $ if this was a law.
Is it wrong to limit the # of children allowed? If so, why?
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yogirlsxman
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sboogie;3981915 said:nope... there are plenty of cats who present arguments that I disagree with, yet they are not dumb...
some of u niggas (black and white) have no knowledge of what u speak... y'all spout conservative talking points and anti intellectual rhetoric...
y'all have no grasp of history or the present for that matter...
but who am I right?
so go ahead and give up your human rights because u think that welfare mothers are the reason that the economy is shitty... stupid ass niggas...
He has a point this wasnt the reason.
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My point wasn't really about money, more so on the resources and global warming.
Although it would cut a lot of the support we are paying for the families to have these kids and they don't spend the money the right way.
Would you rather these people on wel-fare spend money on groceries or fast food? Many fast food chains are now accepting EBT, which has caused people to be upset about money not being spent wisely.
I've never thought, stated or implemented that's the reason we are in a debt but can it help?
Although it would cut a lot of the support we are paying for the families to have these kids and they don't spend the money the right way.
Would you rather these people on wel-fare spend money on groceries or fast food? Many fast food chains are now accepting EBT, which has caused people to be upset about money not being spent wisely.
I've never thought, stated or implemented that's the reason we are in a debt but can it help?
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So you want the government to clamp down on us even more then they already are? They won't be called 'Big Brother' anymore, they'll be called "Daddy" if you keep making laws on top of laws. Best thing to do is educate the youth while they are young and also cut back on all the welfare, free housing, and food stamp hand outs so that will make people think twice about having these kids they can't afford.
There are millions of acres of land that are still unpopulated on earth, even here in the U.S. (check states like alabama, kentucky, colorado, idaho, alaska etc..) so we're nowhere near close to using up all are resources. For every newborn there is about the same amount of deaths each year to balance out. Add to the fact that japan and other countries fertility rates are dropping, we'll be ok
There are millions of acres of land that are still unpopulated on earth, even here in the U.S. (check states like alabama, kentucky, colorado, idaho, alaska etc..) so we're nowhere near close to using up all are resources. For every newborn there is about the same amount of deaths each year to balance out. Add to the fact that japan and other countries fertility rates are dropping, we'll be ok
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Flaboy954;3982250 said:So you want the government to clamp down on us even more then they already are? They won't be called 'Big Brother' anymore, they'll be called "Daddy" if you keep making laws on top of laws. Best thing to do is educate the youth while they are young and also cut back on all the welfare, free housing, and food stamp hand outs so that will make people think twice about having these kids they can't afford.
There are millions of acres of land that are still unpopulated on earth, even here in the U.S. (check states like alabama, kentucky, colorado, idaho, alaska etc..) so we're nowhere near close to using up all are resources. For every newborn there is about the same amount of deaths each year to balance out. Add to the fact that japan and other countries fertility rates are dropping, we'll be ok
We have 7+ billion people, if there was a limit on a family this would end up dramatically cutting spending costs, resources and possibly global warming. This change though would require new ways to depend on fuel, building materials (wood, plastic, rubber etc)
We're chopping down forests like nothing used for building homes for the number of growing people. Every empty field 10-20 years ago aren't so empty any more, they hold apartments, condos and stores to cater to the surrounding people. If we can lessen the human population then there's less to cater to and it's a well balanced living condition.
We complain about out gov. but we are stupid people, we have no idea how to live. We're so careless w everything. We do need the gov. to step in and take control, otherwise we are our own killer. We need commercials to tell us how we can lose weight, how to do this or that easier or better. We're careless w what we consume, produce and destroy. Theres a reason were growing over 7 billion, we're growing faster than nature can kill us off. We aren't balanced within nature, we've figured out how to use drugs to live longer, to defeat natures sicknesses and to bypass it's "natural death cleanser".
We won't ever start to "lessen" because all we do is grow, grow, grow.
We have to capitalize on ourselves, we have brains and we know how to get out of debt, global warming, and use the right resources to live healthy and better.
If we don't, we just keep growing until we've taken every last tree, burnt every drop of fuel and fucked this planet over until it's bone dry. There's a reason they say we're speeding up everything.
Kinda just ranted a bit on shit a bit more than population control, and I'm not saying what I said will work for a fact. As humans though, we hold this shit on our hands. It's only up to what we do, they do, to change this.
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