Do you really believe ancient egyptians built these pyramids

[edwardnigma]

[video=youtube;mEvVy27UjtU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEvVy27UjtU[/video][video=youtube;jIjfixqXPbQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIjfixqXPbQ&feature=related[/video]

Thats the 1st and 2nd part to avdeo about the Pharoahs of the sun....Amenhotep III, his son Akhenaten, Tutankahmun

They show the actual Statues from these leaders, talk about their thriving economy, trade with other nations....How much GOLD they had! The attitude and demeanor of the kings.

They show wall paintings of other nations bringing them Gifts of Big and Exotic animals(no dinosaurs lol), cheetas, ox's, giraffes, elephant Husks,gold , food,(very simialar to how they did for Moses, it's cusom for the king)

It also talks about, Akhenaten introducing the world to to at the time the revolutionary idea of Monotheism (belief in One God).

Check it.

Good DOCU!

 

[@My_nameaintearl]

How were the Egyptians any more cruel and unethical than The Romans, The Spanish, Isreal, the U.S.A, Saudi Arabia, The Mayans, Aztecs, Germans, Japanese or just about any other large society? I could see you mentioning this in terms of people looking at them as some kind of Utopian ideal but I don't think that's the case here.

As far as a caste system there was definitely a social order but I wouldn't call it a "strict" caste system - it just so happened that occupations, wealth, land and the status associated with them were typically passed down throughout families. There are cases of slaves (even Nubians) becoming viziers and women, priests and generals becoming Pharaohs. These things didn't happen often but they did happen. Certainly there was a pecking order but again, how is that so different that what we see even in large modern societies (including our own)?

The USA abolished slavery, holds elections, didn't execute anybody for refusing to help build the Lincoln Memorial, etc.

 

[Pond Scum]

[video=youtube;mEvVy27UjtU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEvVy27UjtU[/video][video=youtube;jIjfixqXPbQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIjfixqXPbQ&feature=related[/video]

Thats the 1st and 2nd part to avdeo about the Pharoahs of the sun....Amenhotep III, his son Akhenaten, Tutankahmun

They show the actual Statues from these leaders, talk about their thriving economy, trade with other nations....How much GOLD they had! The attitude and demeanor of the kings.

They show wall paintings of other nations bringing them Gifts of Big and Exotic animals(no dinosaurs lol), cheetas, ox's, giraffes, elephant Husks,gold , food,(very simialar to how they did for Moses, it's cusom for the king)

It also talks about, Akhenaten introducing the world to to at the time the revolutionary idea of Monotheism (belief in One God).

Check it.

Good DOCU!

Thanks, I hadn't seen this and the 18th Dynasty is by far my favorite. Not only because of Akhenaten, Tiye, Nefertiti and Tut but also the Armana letters, the Thutmose sculpture style and all the behind the scenes stuff that was going on with Hatshepsut and Thutmose III and the crazy amount of monument building that was going on then.

The USA abolished slavery, holds elections, didn't execute anybody for refusing to help build the Lincoln Memorial, etc.

Oddly enough, I knew all those things already and still think my point is just as valid. If you want to color a society as cruel and barbaric based on your perception of the worst that particular society has to offer we can do that all day.

Keep in mind we're talking about events of about 4-5,000 years ago versus 200 years ago with regard to slavery. If we were speaking about genocide there's no evidence of the 5,000 year old Egyptian society doing that compared to modern western and african societies.

None of this really has much to do with anything though - I just think it's foolish to try to demonize KMT because they were ruled by a Pharaoh and had many brutal or "barbaric" tendencies compared to our modern ideals the even we as modern people don't live up to. I feel the same way about people that look to ancient Egypt with rose-colored glasses as some kind of utopia.

 

[@My_nameaintearl]

Despotism is a deranged, ignorant, and inhumane form of government, usually populated by the most narcissistic, self-aggrandizing egomaniacs imaginable. Egypt was no exception. They were bad people who demanded an entire nation of subservient citizens build monuments to their egos.

And Akhenaten did not invent monotheism. He promoted a form of henotheism and after his retarded inbred son died, nobody cared about it anyway.

 

[Pond Scum]

Despotism is a deranged, ignorant, and inhumane form of government, usually populated by the most narcissistic, self-aggrandizing egomaniacs imaginable. Egypt was no exception. They were bad people who demanded an entire nation of subservient citizens build monuments to their egos.

And Akhenaten did not invent monotheism. He promoted a form of henotheism and after his retarded inbred son died, nobody cared about it anyway.

Actually it was Tut (the retarded inbred son) that shifted the spiritual focus back from Amun to the priest of various gods. Remember he was born as Tut-Ankh-Aten (the Aten is reborn) but after his father died (possible murdered by Horemheb or Ay) but changed his name to Tut-Ankh-Amun most likely to appease the priests and people who his father pissed off during his reign.

I still don't get your insistence on pointing out the flaws of the form of religion and government of a long-past civilization or what bearing it has on anything. Aside from the fact that you seem to be making an awful lot of assumptions about the day-to-day lives of the average Egyptian back then it seems like you have some strange desire to discredit the accomplishments of the worlds first "great" civilization using criteria that I doubt you'd apply to others.

Do you think in a conversation about the construction of The Colosseum you would say "Yeah but that Nero was one sick fucker and Romans had slaves."? Doubtful but then again I don't think anyone ever suggested that Roman architecture was built by extra-terrestrials because there's no possible way they could have known how to use a plane and a ruler and metal tools to shape and stack stones on top of each other.

 

[edwardnigma]

King Tut wasn't retarded and he was born to a lesser wife (so the documentary states).

Akhenaten introduced the world to the belief in one God but he didn't invent it. As a matter of fact his great GrandFather( forgot his name) who was the father obviously of Amenhotep III was the first of that bloodline to openly worship the sun. Akhenaten was the one who took it to the next level and basically went on a personally war against the priest who were representing Amun.

Also about the slaves ..... Alot of the builders were not slaves, the bottmline is they believed the Pharoah to be the king of all kings and followed him to wherever he went. The third video states how Farmers Doctors, and those who held positions in court would all help out in building these structures.

Not only that the third video to this piece talks about how fast they would build these cities as tributes to their kings.

They not only built these cities pyramids and structures, but they built them at a rapid pace....whats more impressive is the fact many of these places remain somewhat intact.

And my favorite is Thothmosis III and the Medjay soldiers.

 

[edwardnigma]

[video=youtube;hCwFnyPEJ1g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCwFnyPEJ1g&feature=related[/video]

You guys never believe me anyways so watch for youself. They tell you

EVERYBODY HELPED BUILD THEY'RE AMAZING STRUCTURES!!!

Thats how much they believed in the Pharoah, you gotta remember these guys were warriors. Not Akhenaten but guys like his Father Amenhotep III , Ramses the Great, Thohtmosis III these Kings weren't only diplomats alot of them were millitary general who lead ,fought and won there own wars. Front line soldiers.

 

[@My_nameaintearl]

Do you think in a conversation about the construction of The Colosseum you would say "Yeah but that Nero was one sick fucker and Romans had slaves."?

I would definitely say that. I've always held classicism in contempt. Egypt, Greece, Rome, Persia, etc. They're all awful people.

You're the one making assumptions about hypothetical arguments. I'm just here to give the Howard Zinn "A People's History" take on these so-called great civilizations.

 

[fiat_money]

"Massa says me us nigguhs too dumb to build pyramids. Massa says aliens did it."

 

[whar67]

A pyramid is basically a big stack of rocks. Why exactly does a people as intelligent as modern humans need help from an alien civilization to stack rocks?

 

[VIBE]

Just to clear this up,

no one is stating that aliens, or advanced beings from another planet, built the pyramids themselves. These 'advanced beings' only gave the knowledge to do so, the tools to do so etc... This isn't just hooblah, this is talked about in many cultures, such as the Book of Enoch, where supposed "fallen angels" came down from heaven and shared the knowledge of astronomy, astrology, how to make tools/weapons, mathematics, etc. This also just isn't in the Book of Enoch but other cultures as well, such as Egypt, if I'm wrong correct me.

But again, aliens never BUILT the pyramids but gave the KNOWLEDGE to. Humans were or are slaves to the alien beings.

Also, what are the pyramids used for? What about the main pyramid? (the largest)

 

[VIBE]

A pyramid is basically a big stack of rocks. Why exactly does a people as intelligent as modern humans need help from an alien civilization to stack rocks?

Because they didn't have the knowledge or tools to do so. It was literally like they just popped up out of no where with these things, I think there's a 3 more pyramids in Egypt that weren't completed or done right, then they jump to the pyramids of Giza and they're perfect, or at least to them they were.

I've seen many shows on showing how they did this, and we cannot come up with one right answer. Many of the things we come up with are, "well, MAYBE this is how they did it..." but they go on to say long term wise, it's not practical. We tried using copper tools to chisel and work stone to blocks, or statues and we gotta keep getting new ones every couple hours. That's not practical when doing this type of work.

No one knows for sure how they did all of this, not even how they were able to move these heavy stones or lift them up right etc. How did they get the stones over at Stonehenge on top of two stone pillars? They still can't properly explain it.

I still don't understand the alien theory behind moving the stones, they say "percussion, sound waves" to "gravitate" them and they're easily moved but they haven't put that to work at all so it's unclear.

It's not hard to fathom aliens helping mankind on earth, I don't see why it is. If we exist as life, why cannot other planets? Isn't our galaxy 14 billion years old? There very well may be advanced civilizations across our billions of galaxies, just because we don't see them or hear them doesn't mean they aren't there. Life on other planets, intelligent life, more advanced than us, is highly probable.

 

[fiat_money]

SMH @ The aliens teaching ancient humans how to build pyramids, but not how to do something useful like harness electricity.

Assholes.

We would've been so much more advanced by now.

ET would've laced us with some electrodynamics.

 

[frostyicy]

If they were a so called "advanced civilization", then why didn't they have any sort of electricity\electronics.

Ever heard of the Baghdad Battery?????

 

[fiat_money]

So these niggas really flew up on our planet, went through our atmosphere, descended down upon our people, and thought "These niggas really need to know how to cut/stack rocks"?

Like that was mankind's biggest problem?

If I ever see an alien, I'm punching him right in his smug alien face.

Let an alien fly/teleport up in this bitch:
[video=youtube;fZLbAtC7gok]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZLbAtC7gok[/video]

 

[Pond Scum]

Just to clear this up,

no one is stating that aliens, or advanced beings from another planet, built the pyramids themselves. These 'advanced beings' only gave the knowledge to do so, the tools to do so etc... This isn't just hooblah, this is talked about in many cultures, such as the Book of Enoch, where supposed "fallen angels" came down from heaven and shared the knowledge of astronomy, astrology, how to make tools/weapons, mathematics, etc. This also just isn't in the Book of Enoch but other cultures as well, such as Egypt, if I'm wrong correct me.

But again, aliens never BUILT the pyramids but gave the KNOWLEDGE to. Humans were or are slaves to the alien beings.

Also, what are the pyramids used for? What about the main pyramid? (the largest)

Just to clear this up:

Mastaba (flat, square stone to mark a grave) -> Step Pyramid (a series of mastabas stacked on top of each other) -> Pyramid (a step pyramid with the steps filled in with limestone)

Every single step of the evolution of pyramid building is known and documented along with the trial and error mistakes made through the learning process.

A pyramid isn't even the most spectacular or advanced thing Ancient Egyptians did by far. Also your biblical references don't even make sense due to the fact that the Old Testament didn't even get written until about 1800 years later. And that's the OLD testament.

As far as "what are pyramids used for?" What's a headstone used for? What's a tomb used for? A mastaba? A plaque? This isn't even a question.

In your next comment you say they didn't have the knowledge or tools to build a pyramid which basically says "i'm an idiot that would rather believe a mystery than spend a few hours reading the explanation." This does a huge disservice to the people that did this. There is no quantum leap in technology, masonry or organization between pyramids and no pyramids. It's called innovation and sometimes it just happens.

When I was born some people still used black and white televisions (invented by some random farmer, btw); now nearly everyone has a supercomputer in their pocket that they can make calls with wirelessly to anyone anywhere on earth. Yet you want to believe an already advanced society adept at building monuments couldn't shape and stack rocks?

 

[DarkRaiden]

If they were a so called "advanced civilization", then why didn't they have any sort of electricity\electronics.

I've heard from historians that they did and even had a symbol in their hieroglyphics for electricity.

The USA abolished slavery, holds elections, didn't execute anybody for refusing to help build the Lincoln Memorial, etc.

They also killed and hang black people for being black. Enslaved them just cause they were black, raped the slave women, separated families, treated them as property, bombed multiple entire cities full of innocent people during war, etc.

 

[Pond Scum]

Because they didn't have the knowledge or tools to do so. It was literally like they just popped up out of no where with these things, I think there's a 3 more pyramids in Egypt that weren't completed or done right, then they jump to the pyramids of Giza and they're perfect, or at least to them they were.

There were way more than 3. There are also many in Nubia as well. I keep saying it's really easy to trace the chronology of the evolution of the pyramid as well as the techniques and machinery available at the time that made it more than possible. It ain't no mystery.

It's not hard to fathom aliens helping mankind on earth, I don't see why it is. If we exist as life, why cannot other planets? Isn't our galaxy 14 billion years old? There very well may be advanced civilizations across our billions of galaxies, just because we don't see them or hear them doesn't mean they aren't there. Life on other planets, intelligent life, more advanced than us, is highly probable.

Overall I don't disagree with you about the size and age of the universe and the existence of other species but in this case to suggest that it's more likely that some non-terrestrial entity had something to do with building pyramids using science that no one can explain as opposed to humans building pyramids using tools, knowledge and techniques that were available at the time just defies logic.

 

[edwardnigma]

[video=youtube;KcVeASYQVo8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcVeASYQVo8&feature=related[/video]

These muthafuckers was bad ass.. Check out ThutMosis and the Medjay army. They had whole life size statues made of them.

 

[VIBE]

So suppose aliens did come, were they suppose to give mankind technology far beyond their minds to use right away? It's no secret that many ancient civilizations do speak about "sky people", "sky gods", "star gods/people" or "angels" giving them knowledge of these things. In turn, substitute these supposed divine beings with aliens. I'm also not speaking about greys or big headed, big eyed green guys. More than anything theyre more human like, such as depicted in all religious beliefs as "in the likeness of men".

To state they may have given knowledge to mankind doesn't mean that the ancients were "stupid", but only to say that try may have wanted too see mankind advance faster. They only gave basic knowledge which grew into perfection. The Egyptians used lights in their tombs, not torches or flames, not the suns reflection, so then what? How? The Baghdad Light is suggested.

There's a lot that you can explain, some you can't. The theory of aliens doesn't mean to suggest they were stupid. Also, they cannot be given something too far advanced, baby steps. We got here on our own, they just helped us get ready to walk.

I understand it's hard to imagine, funny perhaps but we aren't the only ones, it's impossible.