Denzel Washington: Don't Blame The Prison System, 'It Starts At The Home'

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im on the outside looking in (white) so dismiss this post if u want

but u all dont think its possible that its a mix of both depending on the situation? the system is rigged definitely, but personal accountability must also play a factor depending on the situation. i been reading every page and its all or nothing from both sides. i dont think its that black & white (no pun intended)

and if u think its ONLY about personal accountability imo ur wrong

i remember moving into my first apartment, was me, my bro, and black friend outside. Cops came up on us and immediately searched my black friend but my bro was the one holding weed (black friend dont smoke or do drugs). Cops asked us what we were doing, NEVER searched ANYONE else. Me and my bro went back upstairs n told everyone what happened like "aint that fucked up", black friend didnt make a big deal out of it.

then u gotta also think how far this shit goes back. Slavery, segregation, jim crow, red lining, taking out the black panthers, introducing drugs, war on drugs.

if u were black in the 20's/30's, u were only allowed to live in certain neighborhoods (red lining). this isnt a conspiracy, mortgage loans and zoning permits that specifically read "NEGROES not allowed"

in a city like chicago it seems to be just as segregated as in the 30s.

now u target a group of poor people who have to travel outside their neighborhoods to find work where its a white man denying them jobs, many will resort to crime. There is a correlation between poverty/crime. Its not a gene. Then many of these people get arrested, cant get out and get a job, and are all concentrated back to the same neighborhoods they came from.

honestly.....fuck u think is gonna happen???
 
7figz;c-10152486 said:
okaay;c-10152476 said:
7figz;c-10152460 said:
okaay;c-10152456 said:
7figz;c-10152454 said:
CapitalB;c-10152438 said:
okaay;c-10152435 said:
CapitalB;c-10152409 said:
its another group of people who say shit like “well i never had a problem wit the police so ‘them people’ must be doin somethin wrong.”

say shit like “well i made it they have no excuse.”

yeh..

u niggas is BACs.

But we ain’t talking about police though are we?

We ain’t talking about who made it out and who didn’t are we?

We talking about black people being held accountable for how our lives turn out.

u aint the brightest crayon in the box are u!!?

and dont think i dont notice u dodgin my posts to u.

Same shit I was thinking. I tried typing a response to that MF but I couldn't dumb down my post enough - said fuck it.

Without asking for help, what I say that was dumb?

Look at the thread title MF. You can't see how this shit is related to police ?

Right... dumb as fuck.

You sure it ain’t related to mass incarceration?

Maybe your right and I’m the dumb one. Lol, nigga Im just kidding it’s you!

Right... and police have nothing at all to do with incarceration.

Keep diggin' that hole genius.

Oh wow, how I get stuck arguing with you?

We talking about police or lifestyle/events/activity leading up to you ending up in prison?

Clearly you can separate the two, no?

I get it, the police make the arrest 1+1=2, just let me know when you want to stop playing checkers.

 
Go figure;c-10152492 said:
im on the outside looking in (white) so dismiss this post if u want

but u all dont think its possible that its a mix of both depending on the situation? the system is rigged definitely, but personal accountability must also play a factor depending on the situation. i been reading every page and its all or nothing from both sides. i dont think its that black & white (no pun intended)

and if u think its ONLY about personal accountability imo ur wrong

i remember moving into my first apartment, was me, my bro, and black friend outside. Cops came up on us and immediately searched my black friend but my bro was the one holding weed (black friend dont smoke or do drugs). Cops asked us what we were doing, NEVER searched ANYONE else. Me and my bro went back upstairs n told everyone what happened like "aint that fucked up", black friend didnt make a big deal out of it.

then u gotta also think how far this shit goes back. Slavery, segregation, jim crow, red lining, taking out the black panthers, introducing drugs, war on drugs.

if u were black in the 20's/30's, u were only allowed to live in certain neighborhoods (red lining). this isnt a conspiracy, mortgage loans and zoning permits that specifically read "NEGROES not allowed"

in a city like chicago it seems to be just as segregated as in the 30s.

now u target a group of poor people who have to travel outside their neighborhoods to find work where its a white man denying them jobs, many will resort to crime. There is a correlation between poverty/crime. Its not a gene. Then many of these people get arrested, cant get out and get a job, and are all concentrated back to the same neighborhoods they came from.

honestly.....fuck u think is gonna happen???

DING DING DING!!!

this wigga got more soul then u fucks in here who proclaim to be black! smmfh
 
aneed123;c-10152464 said:
i understand the im not gonna knock for trying point capitol made. cool... but if u do something that u know the risk off and get caught aint no blaming whitr folk... u take the risk u take the consequence... thats my stance on it. im the most pro black nigga u will meet. everything yall saying i know and agree with most of it.

nobody sayin dont accept the consequence..

i do what i do..

made a conscious decision to do so..

if i end up in jail.. aye..

thats the risk i took..

but how could u blame me!? why would u blame me!?

i dont expect the white man to understand.. but my fuckin brother!!?
 
A damn shame when even a white dude gotta come in here and be more on point with this topic than these dudes.
 
CapitalB;c-10152504 said:
Go figure;c-10152492 said:
im on the outside looking in (white) so dismiss this post if u want

but u all dont think its possible that its a mix of both depending on the situation? the system is rigged definitely, but personal accountability must also play a factor depending on the situation. i been reading every page and its all or nothing from both sides. i dont think its that black & white (no pun intended)

and if u think its ONLY about personal accountability imo ur wrong

i remember moving into my first apartment, was me, my bro, and black friend outside. Cops came up on us and immediately searched my black friend but my bro was the one holding weed (black friend dont smoke or do drugs). Cops asked us what we were doing, NEVER searched ANYONE else. Me and my bro went back upstairs n told everyone what happened like "aint that fucked up", black friend didnt make a big deal out of it.

then u gotta also think how far this shit goes back. Slavery, segregation, jim crow, red lining, taking out the black panthers, introducing drugs, war on drugs.

if u were black in the 20's/30's, u were only allowed to live in certain neighborhoods (red lining). this isnt a conspiracy, mortgage loans and zoning permits that specifically read "NEGROES not allowed"

in a city like chicago it seems to be just as segregated as in the 30s.

now u target a group of poor people who have to travel outside their neighborhoods to find work where its a white man denying them jobs, many will resort to crime. There is a correlation between poverty/crime. Its not a gene. Then many of these people get arrested, cant get out and get a job, and are all concentrated back to the same neighborhoods they came from.

honestly.....fuck u think is gonna happen???

DING DING DING!!!

this wigga got more soul then u fucks in here who proclaim to be black! smmfh

Praise white Jesus!

But he did say personal accountability must play a factor
 
okaay;c-10152521 said:
CapitalB;c-10152504 said:
Go figure;c-10152492 said:
im on the outside looking in (white) so dismiss this post if u want

but u all dont think its possible that its a mix of both depending on the situation? the system is rigged definitely, but personal accountability must also play a factor depending on the situation. i been reading every page and its all or nothing from both sides. i dont think its that black & white (no pun intended)

and if u think its ONLY about personal accountability imo ur wrong

i remember moving into my first apartment, was me, my bro, and black friend outside. Cops came up on us and immediately searched my black friend but my bro was the one holding weed (black friend dont smoke or do drugs). Cops asked us what we were doing, NEVER searched ANYONE else. Me and my bro went back upstairs n told everyone what happened like "aint that fucked up", black friend didnt make a big deal out of it.

then u gotta also think how far this shit goes back. Slavery, segregation, jim crow, red lining, taking out the black panthers, introducing drugs, war on drugs.

if u were black in the 20's/30's, u were only allowed to live in certain neighborhoods (red lining). this isnt a conspiracy, mortgage loans and zoning permits that specifically read "NEGROES not allowed"

in a city like chicago it seems to be just as segregated as in the 30s.

now u target a group of poor people who have to travel outside their neighborhoods to find work where its a white man denying them jobs, many will resort to crime. There is a correlation between poverty/crime. Its not a gene. Then many of these people get arrested, cant get out and get a job, and are all concentrated back to the same neighborhoods they came from.

honestly.....fuck u think is gonna happen???

DING DING DING!!!

this wigga got more soul then u fucks in here who proclaim to be black! smmfh

Praise white Jesus!

But he did say personal accountability must play a factor

I wrote more shit than this, it was mad sarcastic! Just know you agreeing with us by praising white Jesus

 
okaay;c-10152521 said:
CapitalB;c-10152504 said:
Go figure;c-10152492 said:
im on the outside looking in (white) so dismiss this post if u want

but u all dont think its possible that its a mix of both depending on the situation? the system is rigged definitely, but personal accountability must also play a factor depending on the situation. i been reading every page and its all or nothing from both sides. i dont think its that black & white (no pun intended)

and if u think its ONLY about personal accountability imo ur wrong

i remember moving into my first apartment, was me, my bro, and black friend outside. Cops came up on us and immediately searched my black friend but my bro was the one holding weed (black friend dont smoke or do drugs). Cops asked us what we were doing, NEVER searched ANYONE else. Me and my bro went back upstairs n told everyone what happened like "aint that fucked up", black friend didnt make a big deal out of it.

then u gotta also think how far this shit goes back. Slavery, segregation, jim crow, red lining, taking out the black panthers, introducing drugs, war on drugs.

if u were black in the 20's/30's, u were only allowed to live in certain neighborhoods (red lining). this isnt a conspiracy, mortgage loans and zoning permits that specifically read "NEGROES not allowed"

in a city like chicago it seems to be just as segregated as in the 30s.

now u target a group of poor people who have to travel outside their neighborhoods to find work where its a white man denying them jobs, many will resort to crime. There is a correlation between poverty/crime. Its not a gene. Then many of these people get arrested, cant get out and get a job, and are all concentrated back to the same neighborhoods they came from.

honestly.....fuck u think is gonna happen???

DING DING DING!!!

this wigga got more soul then u fucks in here who proclaim to be black! smmfh

Praise white Jesus!

But he did say personal accountability must play a factor

go up two post nigga..

i speak on this accountability u talkin about.
 
Go figure;c-10152492 said:
im on the outside looking in (white) so dismiss this post if u want

but u all dont think its possible that its a mix of both depending on the situation? the system is rigged definitely, but personal accountability must also play a factor depending on the situation. i been reading every page and its all or nothing from both sides. i dont think its that black & white (no pun intended)

and if u think its ONLY about personal accountability imo ur wrong

i remember moving into my first apartment, was me, my bro, and black friend outside. Cops came up on us and immediately searched my black friend but my bro was the one holding weed (black friend dont smoke or do drugs). Cops asked us what we were doing, NEVER searched ANYONE else. Me and my bro went back upstairs n told everyone what happened like "aint that fucked up", black friend didnt make a big deal out of it.

then u gotta also think how far this shit goes back. Slavery, segregation, jim crow, red lining, taking out the black panthers, introducing drugs, war on drugs.

if u were black in the 20's/30's, u were only allowed to live in certain neighborhoods (red lining). this isnt a conspiracy, mortgage loans and zoning permits that specifically read "NEGROES not allowed"

in a city like chicago it seems to be just as segregated as in the 30s.

now u target a group of poor people who have to travel outside their neighborhoods to find work where its a white man denying them jobs, many will resort to crime. There is a correlation between poverty/crime. Its not a gene. Then many of these people get arrested, cant get out and get a job, and are all concentrated back to the same neighborhoods they came from.

honestly.....fuck u think is gonna happen???

poverty does not cause crime you are making a correlation is causation logical fallacy and even if it did the levels of crime in the black community is out of bounds with the amount poverty we face.

what causes crime is relative poverty which is not the same are poverty
 
CapitalB;c-10152511 said:
aneed123;c-10152464 said:
i understand the im not gonna knock for trying point capitol made. cool... but if u do something that u know the risk off and get caught aint no blaming whitr folk... u take the risk u take the consequence... thats my stance on it. im the most pro black nigga u will meet. everything yall saying i know and agree with most of it.

nobody sayin dont accept the consequence..

i do what i do..

made a conscious decision to do so..

if i end up in jail.. aye..

thats the risk i took..

but how could u blame me!? why would u blame me!?

i dont expect the white man to understand.. but my fuckin brother!!?

How can I blame you for going to jail, for something you know you did?

If a nigga end up taking a life of someone close to you, just remember it ain’t his fault, it was the system!

If he go to prison, we rocking “Free that nigga” tees!

 
okaay;c-10152530 said:
CapitalB;c-10152511 said:
aneed123;c-10152464 said:
i understand the im not gonna knock for trying point capitol made. cool... but if u do something that u know the risk off and get caught aint no blaming whitr folk... u take the risk u take the consequence... thats my stance on it. im the most pro black nigga u will meet. everything yall saying i know and agree with most of it.

nobody sayin dont accept the consequence..

i do what i do..

made a conscious decision to do so..

if i end up in jail.. aye..

thats the risk i took..

but how could u blame me!? why would u blame me!?

i dont expect the white man to understand.. but my fuckin brother!!?

How can I blame you for going to jail, for something you know you did?

If a nigga end up taking a life of someone close to you, just remember it ain’t his fault, it was the system!

If he go to prison, we rocking “Free that nigga” tees!

check this out..

muthafuckas have took the lives of those close to me bitch ass nigga..

and nah.. i dont blame them.. i blame the fuckin environment we in.. but doesnt mean them niggas aint go be held accountable..

 
CapitalB;c-10152547 said:
okaay;c-10152530 said:
CapitalB;c-10152511 said:
aneed123;c-10152464 said:
i understand the im not gonna knock for trying point capitol made. cool... but if u do something that u know the risk off and get caught aint no blaming whitr folk... u take the risk u take the consequence... thats my stance on it. im the most pro black nigga u will meet. everything yall saying i know and agree with most of it.

nobody sayin dont accept the consequence..

i do what i do..

made a conscious decision to do so..

if i end up in jail.. aye..

thats the risk i took..

but how could u blame me!? why would u blame me!?

i dont expect the white man to understand.. but my fuckin brother!!?

How can I blame you for going to jail, for something you know you did?

If a nigga end up taking a life of someone close to you, just remember it ain’t his fault, it was the system!

If he go to prison, we rocking “Free that nigga” tees!

check this out..

muthafuckas have took the lives of those close to me bitch ass nigga..

and nah.. i dont blame them.. i blame the fuckin environment we in.. but doesnt mean them niggas aint go be held accountable..


That makes no fucking sense
 
like i said earlier..

dont call me a criminal i want call u a bitch ass nigga..

one side we got niggas angry.. other side we got niggas scared.

yall really think niggas out here resortin to sellin drugs pussy or whatever the fuck for the fun of it. smmfh

smmfh.. yall got it..

master’s favor that is. lmmfao
 
sunlord;c-10152551 said:
CapitalB;c-10152547 said:
okaay;c-10152530 said:
CapitalB;c-10152511 said:
aneed123;c-10152464 said:
i understand the im not gonna knock for trying point capitol made. cool... but if u do something that u know the risk off and get caught aint no blaming whitr folk... u take the risk u take the consequence... thats my stance on it. im the most pro black nigga u will meet. everything yall saying i know and agree with most of it.

nobody sayin dont accept the consequence..

i do what i do..

made a conscious decision to do so..

if i end up in jail.. aye..

thats the risk i took..

but how could u blame me!? why would u blame me!?

i dont expect the white man to understand.. but my fuckin brother!!?

How can I blame you for going to jail, for something you know you did?

If a nigga end up taking a life of someone close to you, just remember it ain’t his fault, it was the system!

If he go to prison, we rocking “Free that nigga” tees!

check this out..

muthafuckas have took the lives of those close to me bitch ass nigga..

and nah.. i dont blame them.. i blame the fuckin environment we in.. but doesnt mean them niggas aint go be held accountable..


That makes no fucking sense

to bitch niggas like u.. of course it dont.

dont quote me nigga.
 
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CapitalB;c-10152524 said:
okaay;c-10152521 said:
CapitalB;c-10152504 said:
Go figure;c-10152492 said:
im on the outside looking in (white) so dismiss this post if u want

but u all dont think its possible that its a mix of both depending on the situation? the system is rigged definitely, but personal accountability must also play a factor depending on the situation. i been reading every page and its all or nothing from both sides. i dont think its that black & white (no pun intended)

and if u think its ONLY about personal accountability imo ur wrong

i remember moving into my first apartment, was me, my bro, and black friend outside. Cops came up on us and immediately searched my black friend but my bro was the one holding weed (black friend dont smoke or do drugs). Cops asked us what we were doing, NEVER searched ANYONE else. Me and my bro went back upstairs n told everyone what happened like "aint that fucked up", black friend didnt make a big deal out of it.

then u gotta also think how far this shit goes back. Slavery, segregation, jim crow, red lining, taking out the black panthers, introducing drugs, war on drugs.

if u were black in the 20's/30's, u were only allowed to live in certain neighborhoods (red lining). this isnt a conspiracy, mortgage loans and zoning permits that specifically read "NEGROES not allowed"

in a city like chicago it seems to be just as segregated as in the 30s.

now u target a group of poor people who have to travel outside their neighborhoods to find work where its a white man denying them jobs, many will resort to crime. There is a correlation between poverty/crime. Its not a gene. Then many of these people get arrested, cant get out and get a job, and are all concentrated back to the same neighborhoods they came from.

honestly.....fuck u think is gonna happen???

DING DING DING!!!

this wigga got more soul then u fucks in here who proclaim to be black! smmfh

Praise white Jesus!

But he did say personal accountability must play a factor

go up two post nigga..

i speak on this accountability u talkin about.

Actually it's only these MFs saying "nobody should be accountable" in order to make their argument.

Just about everybody I seen who disagreed with Denzel are saying it's because it over-simplifies shit and is one-sided (doesn't hold the system accountable).
 
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CapitalB;c-10152552 said:
like i said earlier..

dont call me a criminal i want call u a bitch ass nigga..

one side we got niggas angry.. other side we got niggas scared.

yall really think niggas out here resortin to sellin drugs pussy or whatever the fuck for the fun of it. smmfh

smmfh.. yall got it..

master’s favor that is. lmmfao

I don't give a fuck what you call me because it will be some made up non-factual bullshit.

however when i call you a criminal it perfectly describes what you are.

Niggas resort of crime because they are failures at life either they are too dumb or too morally weak to attain a successful life without doing crime. They don't know how to go up the social ladder so they resort to living in the underworld.
 
CapitalB;c-10152556 said:
sunlord;c-10152551 said:
CapitalB;c-10152547 said:
okaay;c-10152530 said:
CapitalB;c-10152511 said:
aneed123;c-10152464 said:
i understand the im not gonna knock for trying point capitol made. cool... but if u do something that u know the risk off and get caught aint no blaming whitr folk... u take the risk u take the consequence... thats my stance on it. im the most pro black nigga u will meet. everything yall saying i know and agree with most of it.

nobody sayin dont accept the consequence..

i do what i do..

made a conscious decision to do so..

if i end up in jail.. aye..

thats the risk i took..

but how could u blame me!? why would u blame me!?

i dont expect the white man to understand.. but my fuckin brother!!?

How can I blame you for going to jail, for something you know you did?

If a nigga end up taking a life of someone close to you, just remember it ain’t his fault, it was the system!

If he go to prison, we rocking “Free that nigga” tees!

check this out..

muthafuckas have took the lives of those close to me bitch ass nigga..

and nah.. i dont blame them.. i blame the fuckin environment we in.. but doesnt mean them niggas aint go be held accountable..


That makes no fucking sense

to bitch niggas like u.. of course it dont.

dont quote me nigga.

Why not nigga??? You cannot discredit what i said about you so you rather ignore it.
 
CapitalB;c-10152547 said:
okaay;c-10152530 said:
CapitalB;c-10152511 said:
aneed123;c-10152464 said:
i understand the im not gonna knock for trying point capitol made. cool... but if u do something that u know the risk off and get caught aint no blaming whitr folk... u take the risk u take the consequence... thats my stance on it. im the most pro black nigga u will meet. everything yall saying i know and agree with most of it.

nobody sayin dont accept the consequence..

i do what i do..

made a conscious decision to do so..

if i end up in jail.. aye..

thats the risk i took..

but how could u blame me!? why would u blame me!?

i dont expect the white man to understand.. but my fuckin brother!!?

How can I blame you for going to jail, for something you know you did?

If a nigga end up taking a life of someone close to you, just remember it ain’t his fault, it was the system!

If he go to prison, we rocking “Free that nigga” tees!

check this out..

muthafuckas have took the lives of those close to me bitch ass nigga..

and nah.. i dont blame them.. i blame the fuckin environment we in.. but doesnt mean them niggas aint go be held accountable..

CapitalB;c-10152552 said:
like i said earlier..

dont call me a criminal i want call u a bitch ass nigga..

one side we got niggas angry.. other side we got niggas scared.

yall really think niggas out here resortin to sellin drugs pussy or whatever the fuck for the fun of it. smmfh

smmfh.. yall got it..

master’s favor that is. lmmfao

Nigga jumped into those feeling real quick!

 
“if a nigga end up takin a life of someone close to u, just remember it aint his fault..”

muthafucka im from SouthCentral California.. we born in war nigga..

we’re indictrinated into this shit.. u know what that means!!?

nigga its kill or be killed..

dog eat dog sink or fuckin swim..

OR get out by goin to join the gubment that put u in the predicament in the first place.. or have a talent the white man can exploit..

dont exploit urself tho.. its only acceptable if the white man do it.

nah i dont blame the nigga that killed my cousin.. dont mean he wont get dealt wit..

but when u come from such affluence i can understand why the idea is “foreign” to u.

 

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