Denzel Washington: Don't Blame The Prison System, 'It Starts At The Home'

[blackrain]

Is anything ever black ppl fault?

instead of blaming try understanding..

u niggas wanna be white so fuckin bad.

Too many niggas don't want the system to change, they just want to be the ones benefiting from it. They don't want to be white as much as they want the benefits that being white brings

 

[okaay]

I read this whole shit so let me get this straight.

Niggas do what ever you want, it ain’t your fault it’s the system!

... the system you knew was in place waiting on your dumb ass

I hope y’all teaching y’all kids better.

who said that??

It didn’t go 17 pages cause niggas agreed.

Denzel’s comments “it starts at home”, “niggas need fathers”, “can’t blame the system”, “stop making it so easy”.

Y’all acting like there’s no truth in that. Instead you niggas got offended and looked for an excuse to why he’s wrong.

If you wanna talk about the system, that’s one thing, but to act like what type of life you choose to live don’t go hand in hand with where you end up is another.

Niggas know the evils out there but tell me you not warning your own? If they do fuck up, tell me it’s not they fault.

lets see..

Gangs only became prevelant and a problem in the black community when this system took out the Panther Party..

basically MALE LEADERSHIP! then the same system pumped drugs into that community..

if we were ALLOWED TO FUCKIN HAVE A HOME TO BEGIN WIT then the bullshit he talkin would hold merit.

but we know thats not the case right!?

So knowing what you know now, if any nigga came up under you fell victim to the system, you think he should shoulder some of that blame?

 

[okaay]

I read this whole shit so let me get this straight.

Niggas do what ever you want, it ain’t your fault it’s the system!

... the system you knew was in place waiting on your dumb ass

I hope y’all teaching y’all kids better.

who said that??

Exactly - but this MF claim he "read this whole shit".

Where the quote at where somebody said that - if you "read this whole shit" ?

A nigga said it to you. You tap danced around it to defend your point.

Quotes MF.

No thanks.

 

[CapitalB]

Is anything ever black ppl fault?

instead of blaming try understanding..

u niggas wanna be white so fuckin bad.

Too many niggas don't want the system to change, they just want to be the ones benefiting from it. They don't want to be white as much as they want the benefits that being white brings

which is why i said they blame to not have to recognize their “priviledge”

like the whites..

who are u today?!

u sure u okay nigga!? lol

 

[CapitalB]

and i knew yo lesbian ass wasnt gonna agree wit the “rape” part @blackrain hahaha

im jus surprised we actually agree at all. lol

 

[7figz]

I read this whole shit so let me get this straight.

Niggas do what ever you want, it ain’t your fault it’s the system!

... the system you knew was in place waiting on your dumb ass

I hope y’all teaching y’all kids better.

who said that??

Exactly - but this MF claim he "read this whole shit".

Where the quote at where somebody said that - if you "read this whole shit" ?

A nigga said it to you. You tap danced around it to defend your point.

Quotes MF.

No thanks.

Right, then STFU.

 

[okaay]

I read this whole shit so let me get this straight.

Niggas do what ever you want, it ain’t your fault it’s the system!

... the system you knew was in place waiting on your dumb ass

I hope y’all teaching y’all kids better.

who said that??

Exactly - but this MF claim he "read this whole shit".

Where the quote at where somebody said that - if you "read this whole shit" ?

A nigga said it to you. You tap danced around it to defend your point.

Quotes MF.

No thanks.

Right, then STFU.

Yes sir!

 

[CapitalB]

I read this whole shit so let me get this straight.

Niggas do what ever you want, it ain’t your fault it’s the system!

... the system you knew was in place waiting on your dumb ass

I hope y’all teaching y’all kids better.

who said that??

It didn’t go 17 pages cause niggas agreed.

Denzel’s comments “it starts at home”, “niggas need fathers”, “can’t blame the system”, “stop making it so easy”.

Y’all acting like there’s no truth in that. Instead you niggas got offended and looked for an excuse to why he’s wrong.

If you wanna talk about the system, that’s one thing, but to act like what type of life you choose to live don’t go hand in hand with where you end up is another.

Niggas know the evils out there but tell me you not warning your own? If they do fuck up, tell me it’s not they fault.

lets see..

Gangs only became prevelant and a problem in the black community when this system took out the Panther Party..

basically MALE LEADERSHIP! then the same system pumped drugs into that community..

if we were ALLOWED TO FUCKIN HAVE A HOME TO BEGIN WIT then the bullshit he talkin would hold merit.

but we know thats not the case right!?

So knowing what you know now, if any nigga came up under you fell victim to the system, you think he should shoulder some of that blame?

it aint about “blame” i cant blame a nigga for HOWEVER he tries..

why?! cause i fuckin understand why he did it..

even if he doesnt understand why he did it.

cause jus keepin it a buck..

most muthafuckas dont.

but me havin been on both sides of the fence i can reflect.. and i now have understanding LATER on in age..

those under me wont be subjected to the same shit i was but they aint who we talkin about.. we talkin about the muthafuckas still in the trenches.

id never blame them.. pitty them.. sure.. but BLAME!? knowin they was put there and the government alotting resources to keep them there!!?

what kind of nigga would i be!!?

and u still aint address shit i said nigga..

WHAT FUCKIN HOME!!?

the home they continuously come in and blow the fuck up soon as we start to pick up the pieces and put it back together!!?

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

why are these discussions always so binary

i'd agree character is formed in the home, formed by your environment, by your family. but when those building blocks of character were destroyed/crippled by poverty, chronic unemployment, racism and bad government policy for hundreds of years .... what you get is broken homes for generations

and when you have a justice system that tends to disproportionately police, harass, arrest, punish one segment of the population more than another, you are going to create more broken homes and perpetuate more systemic inequalities

would things be better if parents could do more and ppl made better decisions? yes. obviously. but it's unrealistic to argue the average person can overcome the effects of racism; living in a poor neighborhoods with shitty schools and high crime rates; a poor diet..... especially when working class/ poor parents generally lack the time, money and education required to parent efficiently in america

in this thread we got The Blacks vs The BACs hahaha

Damn I gotta be a bac because I don't depend on white people for my freedom? LMAO...

You make it too easy...

stawp

living in america means appeasing some white folk is required, considering we have to live among quite a few

and don't act like with one false report you couldn't be thrown in prison, or for decades well into the late 40s, after slavery supposedly ended, blk ppl by the thousands arrested and thrown into prison or labor camps for "crimes" such as homelessness or loitering

it's about holding the systems and ppl responsible for the creation and outcome of these systems accountable

 

[blackrain]

Because the phrase "deserve rape" will never be true...but your overall point is true in terms of who people hold more accountable for shit. I think goes back into a reoccurring theme which is people know they're the ones responsible for putting these politicians in place either through action or inaction thus meaning blaming them is also blaming themselves and their shitty decision making...and people hate personal accountability. A sports team you don't put that together yourself so it's easier to blame w/o guilt. A movie you not writing the script so if it sucks it ain't your fault. Just the same theme coming up over and over again

 

[sunlord]

In this thread WE have a criminal defending criminal activity....... why am I not surprised.

i cant discredit anything this man is sayin in this thread so ill jus attempt to discredit the man thats sayin it.

we know fuck nigga..

we know..

Nigga all the shit you said in this thread i discredited already

 

[CapitalB]

In this thread WE have a criminal defending criminal activity....... why am I not surprised.

i cant discredit anything this man is sayin in this thread so ill jus attempt to discredit the man thats sayin it.

we know fuck nigga..

we know..

Nigga all the shit you said in this thread i discredited already

new name..

same fuck nigga.

 

[CapitalB]

and in comes @Madame_CJSkywalker basically sayin the same shit im sayin..

if zzombie wasnt in here bein the bitch nigga that he is id think somethin or someone broke the IC today! hahahaha

 

[CapitalB]

Because the phrase "deserve rape" will never be true...but your overall point is true in terms of who people hold more accountable for shit. I think goes back into a reoccurring theme which is people know they're the ones responsible for putting these politicians in place either through action or inaction thus meaning blaming them is also blaming themselves and their shitty decision making...and people hate personal accountability. A sports team you don't put that together yourself so it's easier to blame w/o guilt. A movie you not writing the script so if it sucks it ain't your fault. Just the same theme coming up over and over again

well they sayin niggas “deserve jail” its basically the same shit..

but because u identify wit the female u wont allow urself to see the correlation.

 

[7figz]

It's a damn shame when you got @CapitalB, @blackrain, and @Madame_CJSkywalker all on the same page and you still in here not gettin' the shit.

 

[sunlord]

why are these discussions always so binary

i'd agree character is formed in the home, formed by your environment, by your family. but when those building blocks of character were destroyed/crippled by poverty, chronic unemployment, racism and bad government policy for hundreds of years .... what you get is broken homes for generations

and when you have a justice system that tends to disproportionately police, harass, arrest, punish one segment of the population more than another, you are going to create more broken homes and perpetuate more systemic inequalities

would things be better if parents could do more and ppl made better decisions? yes. obviously. but it's unrealistic to argue the average person can overcome the effects of racism; living in a poor neighborhoods with shitty schools and high crime rates; a poor diet..... especially when working class/ poor parents generally lack the time, money and education required to parent efficiently in america

in this thread we got The Blacks vs The BACs hahaha

Damn I gotta be a bac because I don't depend on white people for my freedom? LMAO...

You make it too easy...

stawp

living in america means appeasing some white folk is required, considering we have to live among quite a few

and don't act like with one false report you couldn't be thrown in prison, or for decades well into the late 40s, after slavery supposedly ended, blk ppl by the thousands arrested and thrown into prison or labor camps for "crimes" such as homelessness or loitering

it's about holding the systems and ppl responsible for the creation and outcome of these systems accountable

So it's unrealistic to expect people to be strong??? and not fall to the traps of their environment. History is what it is and that won't change so we cannot keep using history as an excuse. If a parent cannot effectively disciple their children then it's their fault not the systems and when those children grow up if they continue to fuck up then it's their fault not the systems.

THE SYSTEM is unfair but life has never been fair and never will be.

 

[okaay]

I read this whole shit so let me get this straight.

Niggas do what ever you want, it ain’t your fault it’s the system!

... the system you knew was in place waiting on your dumb ass

I hope y’all teaching y’all kids better.

who said that??

It didn’t go 17 pages cause niggas agreed.

Denzel’s comments “it starts at home”, “niggas need fathers”, “can’t blame the system”, “stop making it so easy”.

Y’all acting like there’s no truth in that. Instead you niggas got offended and looked for an excuse to why he’s wrong.

If you wanna talk about the system, that’s one thing, but to act like what type of life you choose to live don’t go hand in hand with where you end up is another.

Niggas know the evils out there but tell me you not warning your own? If they do fuck up, tell me it’s not they fault.

lets see..

Gangs only became prevelant and a problem in the black community when this system took out the Panther Party..

basically MALE LEADERSHIP! then the same system pumped drugs into that community..

if we were ALLOWED TO FUCKIN HAVE A HOME TO BEGIN WIT then the bullshit he talkin would hold merit.

but we know thats not the case right!?

So knowing what you know now, if any nigga came up under you fell victim to the system, you think he should shoulder some of that blame?

it aint about “blame” i cant blame a nigga for HOWEVER he tries..

why?! cause i fuckin understand why he did it..

even if he doesnt understand why he did it.

cause jus keepin it a buck..

most muthafuckas dont.

but me havin been on both sides of the fence i can reflect.. and i now have understanding LATER on in age..

those under me wont be subjected to the same shit i was but they aint who we talkin about.. we talkin about the muthafuckas still in the trenches.

id never blame them.. pitty them.. sure.. but BLAME!? knowin they was put there and the government alotting resources to keep them there!!?

what kind of nigga would i be!!?

and u still aint address shit i said nigga..

WHAT FUCKIN HOME!!?

the home they continuously come in and blow the fuck up soon as we start to pick up the pieces and put it back together!!?

I don’t get what you saying. You saying niggas shouldn’t strive to be better because in the end, white people wont let us?

My shit is, how is it that a nigga who believes that taking care of ourselves is a good place to start wrong.

The answer can’t be because the white man won’t let us. If so we not who we say we are.

 

[CapitalB]

It's a damn shame when you got @CapitalB, @blackrain, and @Madame_CJSkywalker all on the same page and you still in here not gettin' the shit.

nigga u too! we dont always see eye to eye. lol

 

[CapitalB]

why are these discussions always so binary

i'd agree character is formed in the home, formed by your environment, by your family. but when those building blocks of character were destroyed/crippled by poverty, chronic unemployment, racism and bad government policy for hundreds of years .... what you get is broken homes for generations

and when you have a justice system that tends to disproportionately police, harass, arrest, punish one segment of the population more than another, you are going to create more broken homes and perpetuate more systemic inequalities

would things be better if parents could do more and ppl made better decisions? yes. obviously. but it's unrealistic to argue the average person can overcome the effects of racism; living in a poor neighborhoods with shitty schools and high crime rates; a poor diet..... especially when working class/ poor parents generally lack the time, money and education required to parent efficiently in america

in this thread we got The Blacks vs The BACs hahaha

Damn I gotta be a bac because I don't depend on white people for my freedom? LMAO...

You make it too easy...

stawp

living in america means appeasing some white folk is required, considering we have to live among quite a few

and don't act like with one false report you couldn't be thrown in prison, or for decades well into the late 40s, after slavery supposedly ended, blk ppl by the thousands arrested and thrown into prison or labor camps for "crimes" such as homelessness or loitering

it's about holding the systems and ppl responsible for the creation and outcome of these systems accountable

So it's unrealistic to expect people to be strong??? and not fall to the traps of their environment. History is what it is and that won't change so we cannot keep using history as an excuse. If a parent cannot effectively disciple their children then it's their fault not the systems and when those children grow up if they continue to fuck up then it's their fault not the systems.

THE SYSTEM is unfair but life has never been fair and never will be.

VERY u dipshit!

 

[okaay]

It's a damn shame when you got @CapitalB, @blackrain, and @Madame_CJSkywalker all on the same page and you still in here not gettin' the shit.

Lol, I don’t know you niggas.