Denzel Washington: Don't Blame The Prison System, 'It Starts At The Home'

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sunlord;c-10113795 said:
7figz;c-10113697 said:
sunlord;c-10113693 said:
7figz;c-10113683 said:
Huey_C;c-10113661 said:
Niggas in 2017 still don't know the system is against us and how to avoid them

MFs out here "avoiding" the system everyday and still gettin' into shit. You don't read the fuckin news ?

You saying some shit like you offered a real solution or some shit. Gotta stop engaging with yall weak-minded MFs who can't form real arguments. Just leave the reaction and keep it movin bruh, you ain't sayin shit.

most of the niggas getting into shit don't avoid a fucking thing.... I read the news and most of those fuckers are getting what they put onto themselves

Really ? And all the innocent Black people who got killed by racist cops was just imagination, right ?

Sandra Bland should've avoided the shit.

The old lady in GA who cops bust down her door on some wrong door shit, and killed her - should've avoided the shit ?

Dude in the cop van who got paralyzed should've avoided the shit ?

Yeah ight genius.

Straw man argument.... We are talking about people who break laws. Not innocent old lady's who become the victims of police mistakes.

Stop accusing people of being stupid when you cannot even properly debate

So the school to prison-system is only about "people who break laws" ? Man STFU. You're really too ignorant for this shit.
 
LPast;c-10113517 said:
blackamerica;c-10113485 said:
LPast;c-10113414 said:
I see some of y'all are still expecting white people to save y'all...

Keep waiting on the system to be fixed...

It dont think anybody's waiting to be saved. We just want the system to stop fuckin over us so we can have the same opportunities as others. The margin of error for black folks is ALOT slimmer than other races

Correct... So like Denzel said, don't make it easy. The way to combat it from our end is to take care of home.

Simply pointing out injustice does nothing. And changing the system takes forever, if it ever happens.

Literally your best solution for the time being is to take care of home.

Facts
 
sunlord;c-10113795 said:
7figz;c-10113697 said:
sunlord;c-10113693 said:
7figz;c-10113683 said:
Huey_C;c-10113661 said:
Niggas in 2017 still don't know the system is against us and how to avoid them

MFs out here "avoiding" the system everyday and still gettin' into shit. You don't read the fuckin news ?

You saying some shit like you offered a real solution or some shit. Gotta stop engaging with yall weak-minded MFs who can't form real arguments. Just leave the reaction and keep it movin bruh, you ain't sayin shit.

most of the niggas getting into shit don't avoid a fucking thing.... I read the news and most of those fuckers are getting what they put onto themselves

Really ? And all the innocent Black people who got killed by racist cops was just imagination, right ?

Sandra Bland should've avoided the shit.

The old lady in GA who cops bust down her door on some wrong door shit, and killed her - should've avoided the shit ?

Dude in the cop van who got paralyzed should've avoided the shit ?

Yeah ight genius.

Straw man argument.... We are talking about people who break laws. Not innocent old lady's who become the victims of police mistakes.

Stop accusing people of being stupid when you cannot even properly debate

So in the other words, for us to avoid grossly unfair prison sentencing based off our color, we as black ppl should NEVER commit any crimes at all? Thats the answer to DECADES of racist prison sentencing. Forget the fact crime is based off economic conditions not race
 
lol wait wait wait....

The system has destroyed and continues to target the black family with mass incarceration ....y’all solution “fix the family and you’ll fix the system ”

That makes no sense....the family needs to be fixed because of the system....in order to fix the family you gotta fix the system, is it really that hard?? If you fix the family the system will break it again because that’s what it’s intended to do....y’all solution will have us in a continuous cycle of trying to fix the family after problems keep rising...what y’all saying is the system is working we just gotta fix our families

Again you don’t treat the symptom you kill the virus unless y’all doing it the American way to make money then you let them keep the virus and treat the symptoms so you can make more money than if you kill the virus
 
blackamerica;c-10113864 said:
sunlord;c-10113795 said:
7figz;c-10113697 said:
sunlord;c-10113693 said:
7figz;c-10113683 said:
Huey_C;c-10113661 said:
Niggas in 2017 still don't know the system is against us and how to avoid them

MFs out here "avoiding" the system everyday and still gettin' into shit. You don't read the fuckin news ?

You saying some shit like you offered a real solution or some shit. Gotta stop engaging with yall weak-minded MFs who can't form real arguments. Just leave the reaction and keep it movin bruh, you ain't sayin shit.

most of the niggas getting into shit don't avoid a fucking thing.... I read the news and most of those fuckers are getting what they put onto themselves

Really ? And all the innocent Black people who got killed by racist cops was just imagination, right ?

Sandra Bland should've avoided the shit.

The old lady in GA who cops bust down her door on some wrong door shit, and killed her - should've avoided the shit ?

Dude in the cop van who got paralyzed should've avoided the shit ?

Yeah ight genius.

Straw man argument.... We are talking about people who break laws. Not innocent old lady's who become the victims of police mistakes.

Stop accusing people of being stupid when you cannot even properly debate

So in the other words, for us to avoid grossly unfair prison sentencing based off our color, we as black ppl should NEVER commit any crimes at all? Thats the answer to DECADES of racist prison sentencing. Forget the fact crime is based off economic conditions not race

Um, nobody should be commiting crimes period..

 
jetlifebih;c-10113906 said:
lol wait wait wait....

The system has destroyed and continues to target the black family with mass incarceration ....y’all solution “fix the family and you’ll fix the system ”

That makes no sense....the family needs to be fixed because of the system....in order to fix the family you gotta fix the system, is it really that hard?? If you fix the family the system will break it again because that’s what it’s intended to do....y’all solution will have us in a continuous cycle of trying to fix the family after problems keep rising...what y’all saying is the system is working we just gotta fix our families

Again you don’t treat the symptom you kill the virus unless y’all doing it the American way to make money then you let them keep the virus and treat the symptoms so you can make more money than if you kill the virus

No you stubborn ass nigga what I was trying to say is that if you fix the home the system will starve on the vine. You cannot fix the family by fixing the system because the people who control the system don't give a fuck about black families. It is also somewhat impossible to fix the system in the first place because it is technically run by a capitalistic democratic process but since black people are only 13% of the population and even worse we are poor there is no incentive for policy makers to really change shit.

Therefore we should focus on what we can actually fix and improve : OUR FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES. Our communities/homes are supposed to function like cocoons in which we inoculate and strengthen ourselves against white supremacy and when we leave this cocoon we should be ready to fight the system and white supremacy.
 
Nobody isn’t saying don’t fix the family du-fus

The system is working to keep 750k black males locked up, a large number of those men are fathers, what don’t yall get??
 
jetlifebih;c-10114134 said:
Nobody isn’t saying don’t fix the family du-fus

The system is working to keep 750k black males locked up, a large number of those men are fathers, what don’t yall get??

we know the system is working against black progress but we are working against ourselves by producing ain't shit men and women. The former we are limited in addressing but the later we can address and improve.

AND when we do address it and improve it the destructive effects of the system be limited.
 
Mfs referring to the system as if it’s a living entity capable of independent thought. Lmao.

I guess the System is a grown niggas boogey man lmao
 
Rozetta5tone;c-10114183 said:
Mfs referring to the system as if it’s a living entity capable of independent thought. Lmao.

I guess the System is a grown niggas boogey man lmao

The system is the economic and political infrastructure of the united states that is upheld by cultural forces
 
Rozetta5tone;c-10114183 said:
Mfs referring to the system as if it’s a living entity capable of independent thought. Lmao.

I guess the System is a grown niggas boogey man lmao

No worse than these mfs fear of cacs
 
sunlord;c-10114163 said:
jetlifebih;c-10114134 said:
Nobody isn’t saying don’t fix the family du-fus

The system is working to keep 750k black males locked up, a large number of those men are fathers, what don’t yall get??

we know the system is working against black progress but we are working against ourselves by producing ain't shit men and women. The former we are limited in addressing but the later we can address and improve.

AND when we do address it and improve it the destructive effects of the system be limited.

That’s what I’m telling you, it’s not necessarily a “we sabotaging ourselves “ type of situation

Why do we keep producing ain’t shit men and women??

like i said,despite everybody aware of the situation, how or why do we keep making the same mistakes???

 
Technically speaking... We can't "fix" the system.

It's not broken...

That bitch is working exactly as it was designed to. There is NOTHING we can do to "fix" it. And it never will BE "fixed". That muthafucka gon' keep runnin like a well-oiled machine. But do that mean we gotta supply the coggs?

What we CAN do is teach each other and our children how to avoid that shit to the best of our and their abilities. And yes...it CAN be avoided. And contrary to how y'all presentin y'all argument...they not just goin around door to door lockin up random niggas. Do some innocent people get caught up in that shit? Yes. But how many? Show me THOSE numbers. THOSE are who we should fight for. Any innocents killed or abused... THOSE are who we should march/protest/riot for.

Niggas is actually in here fightin for our right to do crime! LMAO! And yes, by sayin "But they..."/"But White..."/"But Italian..."/"But everybody else..." is exactly what that sounds like. Well allow me to say fuck them AND everybody else cuz I don't care about THEM like I care about MY people. We shouldn't be worried about what other muhfuckas can "get away with" seeing as it does not and will not affect us the same way. Nah...it's not fair... We get that. I don't think anybody in here is saying that it is. What we are saying is, since we know that, what we CAN do is teach our shorties how fucked up this system is and to put they best foot forward in attempts to stay far the fuck away from it.

Check this...

If a chick gets fair warning that at the weekly frat party they routinely drug and rape all but a certain demographic of women (that SHE'S not part of mind you), and they got friends in high places so they never get punished, yet she goes anyway...and indeed gets drugged and raped...but SHE contests that "Well it's my right to party too." or "Well they don't rape them other bitches! Why they rapin me and my kind?"... Would that be an acceptable enough explanation? Now... Let's say she goes back week after week after week... After seein it happen to other chicks... After it happening to HER... What would you think? What if your mother, your sister, your DAUGHTER wanted to go? And that's not to say "rape is ok"... But when you know what it is and you know the muthafuckas behind it got immunity... What's the common sense thing to do?
 
sunlord;c-10113795 said:
7figz;c-10113697 said:
sunlord;c-10113693 said:
7figz;c-10113683 said:
Huey_C;c-10113661 said:
Niggas in 2017 still don't know the system is against us and how to avoid them

MFs out here "avoiding" the system everyday and still gettin' into shit. You don't read the fuckin news ?

You saying some shit like you offered a real solution or some shit. Gotta stop engaging with yall weak-minded MFs who can't form real arguments. Just leave the reaction and keep it movin bruh, you ain't sayin shit.

most of the niggas getting into shit don't avoid a fucking thing.... I read the news and most of those fuckers are getting what they put onto themselves

Really ? And all the innocent Black people who got killed by racist cops was just imagination, right ?

Sandra Bland should've avoided the shit.

The old lady in GA who cops bust down her door on some wrong door shit, and killed her - should've avoided the shit ?

Dude in the cop van who got paralyzed should've avoided the shit ?

Yeah ight genius.

Straw man argument.... We are talking about people who break laws. Not innocent old lady's who become the victims of police mistakes.

Stop accusing people of being stupid when you cannot even properly debate

Watch how you word that zombie, cause none of those crook cops targeted innocent people by mistake.
 
farris2k1;c-10113981 said:
blackamerica;c-10113864 said:
sunlord;c-10113795 said:
7figz;c-10113697 said:
sunlord;c-10113693 said:
7figz;c-10113683 said:
Huey_C;c-10113661 said:
Niggas in 2017 still don't know the system is against us and how to avoid them

MFs out here "avoiding" the system everyday and still gettin' into shit. You don't read the fuckin news ?

You saying some shit like you offered a real solution or some shit. Gotta stop engaging with yall weak-minded MFs who can't form real arguments. Just leave the reaction and keep it movin bruh, you ain't sayin shit.

most of the niggas getting into shit don't avoid a fucking thing.... I read the news and most of those fuckers are getting what they put onto themselves

Really ? And all the innocent Black people who got killed by racist cops was just imagination, right ?

Sandra Bland should've avoided the shit.

The old lady in GA who cops bust down her door on some wrong door shit, and killed her - should've avoided the shit ?

Dude in the cop van who got paralyzed should've avoided the shit ?

Yeah ight genius.

Straw man argument.... We are talking about people who break laws. Not innocent old lady's who become the victims of police mistakes.

Stop accusing people of being stupid when you cannot even properly debate

So in the other words, for us to avoid grossly unfair prison sentencing based off our color, we as black ppl should NEVER commit any crimes at all? Thats the answer to DECADES of racist prison sentencing. Forget the fact crime is based off economic conditions not race

Um, nobody should be commiting crimes period..

In a perfect world. But if u havent noticed, crime is something that happens and will continue to happen aslong as humans exist on earth. Crime wasnt invented by black ppl. Still doesnt justify them making $$$ of putting black ppl in prison longer than others
 
twenty2;c-10114381 said:
Technically speaking... We can't "fix" the system.

It's not broken...

That bitch is working exactly as it was designed to. There is NOTHING we can do to "fix" it. And it never will BE "fixed". That muthafucka gon' keep runnin like a well-oiled machine. But do that mean we gotta supply the coggs?

What we CAN do is teach each other and our children how to avoid that shit to the best of our and their abilities. And yes...it CAN be avoided. And contrary to how y'all presentin y'all argument...they not just goin around door to door lockin up random niggas. Do some innocent people get caught up in that shit? Yes. But how many? Show me THOSE numbers. THOSE are who we should fight for. Any innocents killed or abused... THOSE are who we should march/protest/riot for.

Niggas is actually in here fightin for our right to do crime! LMAO! And yes, by sayin "But they..."/"But White..."/"But Italian..."/"But everybody else..." is exactly what that sounds like. Well allow me to say fuck them AND everybody else cuz I don't care about THEM like I care about MY people. We shouldn't be worried about what other muhfuckas can "get away with" seeing as it does not and will not affect us the same way. Nah...it's not fair... We get that. I don't think anybody in here is saying that it is. What we are saying is, since we know that, what we CAN do is teach our shorties how fucked up this system is and to put they best foot forward in attempts to stay far the fuck away from it.

Check this...

If a chick gets fair warning that at the weekly frat party they routinely drug and rape all but a certain demographic of women (that SHE'S not part of mind you), and they got friends in high places so they never get punished, yet she goes anyway...and indeed gets drugged and raped...but SHE contests that "Well it's my right to party too." or "Well they don't rape them other bitches! Why they rapin me and my kind?"... Would that be an acceptable enough explanation? Now... Let's say she goes back week after week after week... After seein it happen to other chicks... After it happening to HER... What would you think? What if your mother, your sister, your DAUGHTER wanted to go? And that's not to say "rape is ok"... But when you know what it is and you know the muthafuckas behind it got immunity... What's the common sense thing to do?

All this you typed and didnt say a damn thing smh. Like i've been saying, every race commits crimes. Other races dont have these dumb azz internal debates on how they can stop each from breaking the law. You know why? Because YOU CANT STOP PPL FROM COMMITTING CRIMES. What you can do is work to change the conditions in which ppl feel crime is their only option. But human beings are going to break the fuckin law. Mass incareration is a BUSINESS designed to destroy poor/black communities
 

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