'Creed' - 2015 Michael B Jordan, Sylvester Stallone, Phylicia Rashad & Tessa Thompson.

[Idiopathic Joker]

They need to do a sequel like Godfather 2. Half is Creed preparing for his fight with Drago Jr, and the other half Apollo Creed Back story. How he started boxing and became Champ

Apollo Creed could very well be making an appearance in the Creed sequel and that would be awesome.

The latest edition of the Rocky series, Creed, recently made its debut and it really was a rousing success. While some people like to bash on select editions of the Rocky series, this was not one of them, as it gave us a new-age twist to everything that just made it all fresh once again.

Of course, when movie is successful, that means a sequel will be on the way and that’s the case here with Creed as well. And in this sequel, one of the more famous Rocky characters of all-time could be seen once again — Apollo Creed himself.

No, he’s not a zombie or anything, but they would like to do some flashback sequences with the man that was brutally killed by Ivan Drago in the ring in Rocky IV (THROW THAT DAMN TOWEL, ROCKY!), as Sylvester Stallone himself let that cat out of the bag.

Via Variety:

One version of the story would take place in the past, which would mean — in a surprise that would energize the franchise’s fans — bringing back Carl Weathers to play Apollo Creed, who died in 1985’s “Rocky IV.” “Ryan has some ideas of going forward and backward and actually seeing Rocky and Apollo together,” Stallone revealed. “Think of ‘The Godfather 2.’ That’s what he was thinking of, which was kind of ambitious.” Stallone said he’d recently bumped into Weathers, who looked like he was still in good shape. “I can’t believe I got in the ring with him,” he says. “Even if it was play fighting.”

Really, who’s going to argue with this? Apollo Creed is one of the most beloved movie characters of all-time, so if you can get Weathers to make an appearance, this can really bring nothing but good things, especially since everything now revolves around Creed’s son.

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Damm, I'm good

 

[ckfree]

the thing that resonated the most to me was the melancholy undercurrent of sly performance, i thought it was the best part because ive been there watching the whole time -- that was the briliance of this movie, it was all there -- you can actually see the passage of time in a mans life, from where he started to all the way facing his own end and losing those around him along the way

i cant think of something like that ever happening before in film, where you aged with it

as for the movie itself, it was cool but i left thinking if i would continue to pursue a woman knowing that she would go deaf in the near future more then anything

on some imdb shit i give it 7.2

You have a great point about us seeing the passage of time in a man's life and I'd extend that to the entire franchise if that wasn't already your point. I don't know of another franchise where you see a man go from young to old touching on various stages in life. Now we have Luke and crew in Star Wars, but there were no steps between young and old. The Rocky movies actually have a lot of parallels to Sly's acting career. I don't have time to expound on it now, but something to ponder.

this like the 3rd time ive heard it said that the rocky character and various actions in the series mirror those of stallone in real life, im gonna have to look into that because i have no idea what yall be alluding to

im not too familiar with the harry potter shit but i guess you could vaguely say daniel radcliffe grew over the course of that series too but nothing close to the 40 something years the rocky character aged with its audience -- i mean its crazy to think that in the movie creed, rocky is the same age as micky was in the original rocky + the emotional impact couldnt be as heavy or realistic enough since harry potter is only fantasy while rocky is something we could all experience

which is why i think the critics were so into this movie since they usually vilify sentimental stuff like this

 

[TheNightKing]

the thing that resonated the most to me was the melancholy undercurrent of sly performance, i thought it was the best part because ive been there watching the whole time -- that was the briliance of this movie, it was all there -- you can actually see the passage of time in a mans life, from where he started to all the way facing his own end and losing those around him along the way

i cant think of something like that ever happening before in film, where you aged with it

as for the movie itself, it was cool but i left thinking if i would continue to pursue a woman knowing that she would go deaf in the near future more then anything

on some imdb shit i give it 7.2

You have a great point about us seeing the passage of time in a man's life and I'd extend that to the entire franchise if that wasn't already your point. I don't know of another franchise where you see a man go from young to old touching on various stages in life. Now we have Luke and crew in Star Wars, but there were no steps between young and old. The Rocky movies actually have a lot of parallels to Sly's acting career. I don't have time to expound on it now, but something to ponder.

this like the 3rd time ive heard it said that the rocky character and various actions in the series mirror those of stallone in real life, im gonna have to look into that because i have no idea what yall be alluding to

im not too familiar with the harry potter shit but i guess you could vaguely say daniel radcliffe grew over the course of that series too but nothing close to the 40 something years the rocky character aged with its audience -- i mean its crazy to think that in the movie creed, rocky is the same age as micky was in the original rocky + the emotional impact couldnt be as heavy or realistic enough since harry potter is only fantasy while rocky is something we could all experience

which is why i think the critics were so into this movie since they usually vilify sentimental stuff like this

I'm not sure what others say, but to me Rocky was high and mighty, then fell off a bit and maintained until this last one where he gets a chance to be on a big stage again and earn a new level of respect in his older age. Sly was the same. He was Rocky, Rambo, etc. and ruled the box office with Swarzenneger. Then he hit a lull and came back with the Expendables franchise and Creed in his older age.

It's crazy that the Rocky franchise has ran for damn near 40 years with the same main character played by the same actor.

 

[Broddie]

One of the few times I could fuck with Meek Mill music.

 

[Broddie]

Parrallels between the series and Stallone's personal journey are as follows:

Rocky - Rocky is a broke blue collar philadelphia nobody. A born fighter who is just hungry and itching for a real opportunity to get a chance to reach and even exceed his potential as a contender.

Sly is a broke blue collar philadelphia nobody. A born entertainer who is just hungry and itching for a real opportunity to get a chance to reach or even exceed his potential.

Rocky II - Rocky gets a lil money and has some nationwide notoriety and starts feeling himself a bit. Buying tiger jackets and getting cars that he can't even drive. Has to prove that he is not a fluke. Becomes top dude in his industry. He also becomes a father.

Sly had gotten money and fame from Rocky. He starts feeling himself a bit. Getting cosmetic surgery and since he made a profitable movie right after Rocky (F.I.S.T.) having the juice to get a vanity project going (Paradise Alley).

Paradise Alley flops. Rocky II director drops out. Sly is now tasked with following his flopping directorial debut as the star, writer and new director of the follow up to the best picture winner from a couple of years before. All this while also proving that his post-Rocky success was not a fluke. Goes on to become top dude in his industry. He also had become a father just a few months before the original Rocky's release.

Rocky III - Rocky is now Hollywood. He's been living up to his end defending his championship but gone is the hunger that was once there. Now you have the vanity of owning ferrari cars and training in over elaborate disco backed gyms being his priority. He's comfortable.

Sly is now Hollywood. He's been living up to his end supporting profitable box office hits (Nighthhawks and Victory). Vanity and ego have become his priority. Like Sly wrote Mickey to say: he "got civilized". That's the real Stallone speaking to his present self from that era.

Rocky IV - Rocky is the champ again. On top of his game. No longer getting "carried" because he overcame his second greatest challenger even after his one loss during his first fight with Lang. His ego is at full tilt here. He's buying robots for Paulie, looking like a million bucks, being a patriotic superman and still driving a ferrari.

Sly is now on top of his game. With the exception of one loss (the flop Rhinestone) every movie he released after Rocky III was a box office hit even Staying Alive. Most especially the one that came while he was writing Rocky IV (Rambo: First Blood pt. II).

Then Rocky IV comes out and not only becomes the second biggest box office hit of that year (behind Rambo) but also the highest grossing sports movie of the following 24 years. Sly had become undoubtedly the biggest star in the world. Ego definitely at full tilt.

Rocky V - Rocky goes through an existential crisis. He can no longer do what he loves best, he feels inadequate and his relationship with his son is rocky (no pun). He rolls with the punches and tries to find himself again and tap into his roots while still redefining his outlook going forward. Diversifying.

Sly has been going through an existential crisis since writing and directing Rocky IV. He had two huge box office hits (Cobra, Rambo III) sandwiched between two box office flops where he tried to return to his sports drama (Over the Top) and action drama (Lock Up) roots respectively.

Following that with a movie that made good money on paper but still was considered a box office disappointment cause of it's huge budget and massive 80's star power (Tango & Cash). Lots of attempts at creatively diversifying during this period.

His ego is bruised and he starts feeling inadequate. His rocky relationship with his son is now making it's way into his art (Over the Top, Rocky V) as he tries to come to terms with it.

Rocky V flops at the box office. Only film in the franchise to ever do so. Stallone doesn't have another hit till 1993's Cliffhanger.

Rocky Balboa (feeling he still has something in him, proving doubters and naysayers wrong) and Creed (sharing wisdom & collaborating with new blood) are pretty self explanatory. However clearly Rocky Balboa has always been Sylvester Stallone's avatar. His way to pour his soul and share his life lessons with the rest of the world. That's probably a big reason why he got a standing ovation when he won the Golden Globe last night.

 

[ckfree]

yeah

i think ive pretty much seen almost all of stallone shit -- most of the time he just does actions films that dont require a huge stretch in the acting department but every once in a while he will surprise you

this film represents some of the best acting ive ever seen from him

Spoiler

rocky: arent you going to need this?

adonis: nah. i'll just take a picture of it

rocky: and what if you lose your phone?

adonis: its already in the cloud

rocky: in the cloud? *looks up at the sky puzzled*

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on the low i bet this scene hit those dusty ass critics hard when adonis took a picture of rockys training instructions on his phone because like although life is good with adult mans knowledge and experience and what not, the past and letting go seems sometimes more tempting than fighting and going forward with fading health in a changing world which they dont fully understand

 

[texas409]

Southpaw was borderline trash. it was pretty mediocre to me.

I couldnt even finish the movie. Ol if Eminem was a boxer instead of a rapper ass movie

 

[Idiopathic Joker]

Creed 2 has been confirmed for a while now. Dope

 

[Idiopathic Joker]

https://twitter.com/AgainstTRopes/status/905779563250282501

 

[Idiopathic Joker]

https://twitter.com/TheSlyStallone/status/899808939738451968

 

[Broddie]

I wonder if where Sly personally saw Drago go after Rocky IV (alcoholism and being a disgrace to his countrymen) will play a part in this. Obviously the suicide will be ruled out since Dolph will return.

 

[Idiopathic Joker]

I wonder if where Sly personally saw Drago go after Rocky IV (alcoholism and being a disgrace to his countrymen) will play a part in this. Obviously the suicide will be ruled out since Dolph will return.

That's interesting

 

[Idiopathic Joker]

https://twitter.com/ComplexPop/status/917566955925704706

 

[Broddie]

This will be his 5th movie in the series as a director. If he directs one more he'll tie George Romero's record.

 

[Splackavelli]

https://twitter.com/AgainstTRopes/status/905779563250282501

"if he dies, he dies"

 

[playmaker88]

Yall really Goating Stallone. Directing.. the queso factor just went up.. Coogler is blowing in the wind.. i just hope this shit is at least as good as the firs toe.. But i am skeptical

 

[Broddie]

Yall really Goating Stallone. Directing.. the queso factor just went up.. Coogler is blowing in the wind.. i just hope this shit is at least as good as the firs toe.. But i am skeptical

Ingrate.

 

[Revolver Ocelot]

Yall really Goating Stallone. Directing.. the queso factor just went up.. Coogler is blowing in the wind.. i just hope this shit is at least as good as the firs toe.. But i am skeptical

c/s

I think that's why we got a dope Sly performance in Creed cause that's all he had to worry about.

 

[playmaker88]

Yall really Goating Stallone. Directing.. the queso factor just went up.. Coogler is blowing in the wind.. i just hope this shit is at least as good as the firs toe.. But i am skeptical

c/s

I think that's why we got a dope Sly performance in Creed cause that's all he had to worry about.

we might get 8 more .In before clubber lang makes a cameo

 

[Broddie]

Stallone directed himself to 2 of his greatest performances as that character in Rocky II and Rocky Balboa. Then he provided endless entertainment and some of the most iconic moments in sports movie history as the director of III and IV.

Some of your most cherished Rocky movie memories were directed by Sly himself. Now you gonna have the audacity to question his competence in directing another movie in the series? Lmfao what kind of movie fans are you people?