Create Your Own Label Tournament Round 2: Winner: Motion Picture Muzik
Michael_Malice
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I'll drop my vote sometime tonight. Just got off work and need a couple Scotch's on the rocks first.
Lmfaoo ayo bruh yall niggas is WILIN!!! am I the only player who had no troubles procuring features everytime I went to Riddler?! in that case shiiittt that my muhfuckin NIGGA! but I'm gonna do my job and call it the way I see it when it comes to judging, I've reviewed both labels but I need to take another look just so I can gather my notes before giving my final answer on who I think should move on.. I'll be dropping my vote in the next hour or 2, could be sooner.
IceBergTaylor
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Duke was talkin himself up like he did something innovative with the roster he's put together. Been there done that, check my roster last game. It completely shits on Motion Picture and so does Renaissance Roc.
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Peezy_Jenkins
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will drop my vote(if needed) late tonight/early thurs morning
IceBergTaylor
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Yeh word I mean I get everyone has things their doing in life and shit but all of you guys are just "will drop my vote later tonight" I think it shouldnt take any longer then 5 minutes to drop your vote. My boy Malice has to go get himself a drink first before he even types a word.
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Peezy_Jenkins
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lol, dropping a good detailed vote takes time, at least for me. i wanna judge as fairly and unbias as possible
Michael_Malice
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Future Sales:
At first glance I wasn't sure if MPM had enough star power to hold down the label with heavy sales. Then I evaluated Foolish Records and noticed that they are just lacking in the field of of potential future sales. Not to say Foolish Records can't move units but they don't past the "eye test" to me.
MPM
Future Critical Acclaim:
I like to look at the whole before I come up up with a conclusion on future critical critical acclaim. Although MPM has a top heavy roster of personnel that demand acclaim and recognition, Foolish combines a nice tracklisting and production credits to close the gap. In the end it's not enough though.
MPM
Longevity: Both rosters have artists that have proven themselves long long bough bought to still be effective. Lots of fillers on both teams though. How each label conducts business will be the deciding factor in the longevity progression.
PUSH
Album Covers/Tracklist: MPM has some great covers. Love that Beyoncé cover. I absolutely hate that Lil Wayne cover. It's atrocious. Foolish album covers are pretty much on par with the artist but they have a mixtape feel to them. Both labels Tracklists look pretty good. The covers just stuck out to me.
MPM
Cohesion:
At first I thought this was closer than it seemed but upon further evaluation, MPM seemed to flow a little better and meshed very well.
MPM
In the end I believe MPM was just a little too much for Foolish Records. At first glance this was a close match up but upon further review, MPM was overall stronger.
Winner: MPM
At first glance I wasn't sure if MPM had enough star power to hold down the label with heavy sales. Then I evaluated Foolish Records and noticed that they are just lacking in the field of of potential future sales. Not to say Foolish Records can't move units but they don't past the "eye test" to me.
MPM
Future Critical Acclaim:
I like to look at the whole before I come up up with a conclusion on future critical critical acclaim. Although MPM has a top heavy roster of personnel that demand acclaim and recognition, Foolish combines a nice tracklisting and production credits to close the gap. In the end it's not enough though.
MPM
Longevity: Both rosters have artists that have proven themselves long long bough bought to still be effective. Lots of fillers on both teams though. How each label conducts business will be the deciding factor in the longevity progression.
PUSH
Album Covers/Tracklist: MPM has some great covers. Love that Beyoncé cover. I absolutely hate that Lil Wayne cover. It's atrocious. Foolish album covers are pretty much on par with the artist but they have a mixtape feel to them. Both labels Tracklists look pretty good. The covers just stuck out to me.
MPM
Cohesion:
At first I thought this was closer than it seemed but upon further evaluation, MPM seemed to flow a little better and meshed very well.
MPM
In the end I believe MPM was just a little too much for Foolish Records. At first glance this was a close match up but upon further review, MPM was overall stronger.
Winner: MPM
GovernmentCheese
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@Peezy_Jenkins take your time bruh, don't worry about it. There's a ton of judges so need to feel rushed. I already said that this game would've fallen apart without ya'll. Sometimes ya'll it takes a day or two to get a vote from ya'll but compared to how long we had to wait for community votes....that's nothing at all. The game has been going at a much better pace ever since the community vote been taken out.
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GovernmentCheese
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Thanks for the vote @Michael_malice
Michael_Malice
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IceBergTaylor;6795615 said:
Lol I like to get nice and tight after a long day. I'll drink to that.
GovernmentCheese
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Riddler with the 1-0 lead!
IceBergTaylor
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Lmfaooo you niggas
Labels will be evaluated on the following criteria: future sales, future critical acclaim, longevity, album covers/tracklist, and cohesion.
Future Sales - First of all I feel as though Allergens really messed up up by not having a Big Sean solo project.. I don't see Cam having a successful run without the Dipset and Fab is pretty much a mixtape artist these days so I don't see him securing any sales for the label either. A Mac Miller album would move units of course. A Diddy solo project may of helped out a little bit but not much but a Big Sean album would of definitely helped out a lot. Also looking at the other projects that Foolish Records has given us I feel that it just isn't enough to win in this category. Not whenever going up against a monster roster like the one Riddler has.. love him or hate him for the way he plays the game you guys.. you have to admit that Riddlers roster is undeniably full of heavy hitters so of course he is going to rake in more sales than the artist on Foolish Records whenever the time comes. Beyonce, Lil Wayne, Rick Ross those 3 alone are enough to seal the fate of Foolish Records in this category.
My Vote - MPM
Future Critical Acclaim - Once again MPMs lineup is just too much for Foolish Records. The only two albums that they have that I can see being talked about are the Mac Miller album and the Cam'ron album. Chief Keef has proven himself on the mixtape scene and so has Lil Reese & Fabolous but I don't see any of them being able to put out an album that would be the topic of discussion, an album release from them may generate a little bit of buzz but It would not last for very long.
My Vote - MPM
Longevity - Foolish Records definitely isn't lacking in the youth field where as MPM only have two artist who can be considered "young/fresh" and those two artist are Meek Mill and A$AP Rocky. Although Foolish Records has a label filled with young/fresh artist I can't overlook the fact that the artist on MPM have proven themselves over the years and have pretty much staked their claim on the game. None of them seem to be in a rush to leave the industry anytime soon and I feel like they are all going to be around for a long time to come.
My Vote - MPM
Album Covers/Tracklist - Ok now heres the fun part.. I'd just like to say to the both of you good work, Allergens really brought it as far as his covers goes. I'm happy I shit talked his first batch of covers and motivated him to dig deep inside to find his creativity. Not only did he kill it with the covers but his production/tracklistings looks really good too. That Mac Miller album looks like something that Mac would actually drop but wheres the Clam Casino productions at bruh?! if It were possible I'd deduct points from you for not teaming mac up with Clam Casino but since I can't I guess I'll let it ride.. The Cam'ron album looks very authentic and I like what you did with the Cam/Juelz & Banks collabo I think that'd be dope if it actually went down. The Fab cover is dope and the tracklisting looks good too especially with the Harry Fraud productions but I just can't get past his mixtape image..
Riddlers covers are kind of a hit and miss for me.. he had some that were really good but then there were a few that I felt definitely hurt him as well. Like that Lil Wayne Hollygrove cover.. I wasn't feelin that one at all, nor was I feeling the Ross cover because like I said when he revealed it that boy Ross looks like a fat ass evil pokemon on that cover and these two are major artist on his label, I feel that if any artist should have a GOAT cover then its the heavy hitters. The Styles P cover was kinda meh.. I really didn't know how to feel about that one.. it doesn't look like somethin SP the Ghost would use. Everything else was cool. What he lacked in cover design he made up for with his tracklistings, I loved the use of the Clam Caisno productions, especially on the A$AP Rocky & Styles P projects. That Kanye/Andre 3000 album looks like It would be dope as hell too and so do the Miguel/Beyonce albums.
I'm going to have to give this one to Foolish Records because not only did Allergens deliver with his tracklist but his cover art was also on point too and I feel that this gives him the slight edge.
My Vote - Foolish Records
Cohesion - The young artist on Foolish Records go well with eachother but I feel as though they don't go good along side the vets of the label which Is why I REALLY think it would of made a difference if Allergens gave himself a sub label headed by Diddy and then put all of those young fresh artist on it. Based on his compiliation album that was hosted? by Diddy it looks like this is the direction that he wanted to go but he just didn't make it happen. Diddy, Fab & Cam look alright alongside eachother but the others just throw it all off..
When it comes to MPM I feel as though his artist go well together. Wayne, Ross, Meek Mill, A$AP Rocky all look good along side eachother and then he has Miguel on the label along with Beyonce to bring in the r&b factor.
My final decision - I'm riding with MPM on this one for obvious reasons..
Winner - MPM
Great showing from both competitors and congratulations on making it this far guys!
Future Sales - First of all I feel as though Allergens really messed up up by not having a Big Sean solo project.. I don't see Cam having a successful run without the Dipset and Fab is pretty much a mixtape artist these days so I don't see him securing any sales for the label either. A Mac Miller album would move units of course. A Diddy solo project may of helped out a little bit but not much but a Big Sean album would of definitely helped out a lot. Also looking at the other projects that Foolish Records has given us I feel that it just isn't enough to win in this category. Not whenever going up against a monster roster like the one Riddler has.. love him or hate him for the way he plays the game you guys.. you have to admit that Riddlers roster is undeniably full of heavy hitters so of course he is going to rake in more sales than the artist on Foolish Records whenever the time comes. Beyonce, Lil Wayne, Rick Ross those 3 alone are enough to seal the fate of Foolish Records in this category.
My Vote - MPM
Future Critical Acclaim - Once again MPMs lineup is just too much for Foolish Records. The only two albums that they have that I can see being talked about are the Mac Miller album and the Cam'ron album. Chief Keef has proven himself on the mixtape scene and so has Lil Reese & Fabolous but I don't see any of them being able to put out an album that would be the topic of discussion, an album release from them may generate a little bit of buzz but It would not last for very long.
My Vote - MPM
Longevity - Foolish Records definitely isn't lacking in the youth field where as MPM only have two artist who can be considered "young/fresh" and those two artist are Meek Mill and A$AP Rocky. Although Foolish Records has a label filled with young/fresh artist I can't overlook the fact that the artist on MPM have proven themselves over the years and have pretty much staked their claim on the game. None of them seem to be in a rush to leave the industry anytime soon and I feel like they are all going to be around for a long time to come.
My Vote - MPM
Album Covers/Tracklist - Ok now heres the fun part.. I'd just like to say to the both of you good work, Allergens really brought it as far as his covers goes. I'm happy I shit talked his first batch of covers and motivated him to dig deep inside to find his creativity. Not only did he kill it with the covers but his production/tracklistings looks really good too. That Mac Miller album looks like something that Mac would actually drop but wheres the Clam Casino productions at bruh?! if It were possible I'd deduct points from you for not teaming mac up with Clam Casino but since I can't I guess I'll let it ride.. The Cam'ron album looks very authentic and I like what you did with the Cam/Juelz & Banks collabo I think that'd be dope if it actually went down. The Fab cover is dope and the tracklisting looks good too especially with the Harry Fraud productions but I just can't get past his mixtape image..
Riddlers covers are kind of a hit and miss for me.. he had some that were really good but then there were a few that I felt definitely hurt him as well. Like that Lil Wayne Hollygrove cover.. I wasn't feelin that one at all, nor was I feeling the Ross cover because like I said when he revealed it that boy Ross looks like a fat ass evil pokemon on that cover and these two are major artist on his label, I feel that if any artist should have a GOAT cover then its the heavy hitters. The Styles P cover was kinda meh.. I really didn't know how to feel about that one.. it doesn't look like somethin SP the Ghost would use. Everything else was cool. What he lacked in cover design he made up for with his tracklistings, I loved the use of the Clam Caisno productions, especially on the A$AP Rocky & Styles P projects. That Kanye/Andre 3000 album looks like It would be dope as hell too and so do the Miguel/Beyonce albums.
I'm going to have to give this one to Foolish Records because not only did Allergens deliver with his tracklist but his cover art was also on point too and I feel that this gives him the slight edge.
My Vote - Foolish Records
Cohesion - The young artist on Foolish Records go well with eachother but I feel as though they don't go good along side the vets of the label which Is why I REALLY think it would of made a difference if Allergens gave himself a sub label headed by Diddy and then put all of those young fresh artist on it. Based on his compiliation album that was hosted? by Diddy it looks like this is the direction that he wanted to go but he just didn't make it happen. Diddy, Fab & Cam look alright alongside eachother but the others just throw it all off..
When it comes to MPM I feel as though his artist go well together. Wayne, Ross, Meek Mill, A$AP Rocky all look good along side eachother and then he has Miguel on the label along with Beyonce to bring in the r&b factor.
My final decision - I'm riding with MPM on this one for obvious reasons..
Da Riddler had the better label and I aint come here to kiss no asses so I will not say that this was close, because It was not close in any form or fashion in my opinion.. yea thats right mothafuckas, I am the simon cowell of this create your own hip hop label shit.. if you present us with bullshit then I will so gladly tell you that it is bullshit.
Winner - MPM
Great showing from both competitors and congratulations on making it this far guys!
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GovernmentCheese
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Future Sales: Motion Picture Muzik gets this one by a landslide imo. A lot of the artist on Foolish won't really hit hard when it comes to sales. MPM has Beyonce, 3 stacks, Lil Wayne...I can go on and on. Also, Riddler's sub label would do prety good in future sales. Riddler's sub label doesn't hurt him here. A$AP Rocky is doing his thing right now, Rick Ross has a solid fan base, and then you have Lil Wayne of course.
Vote: Motion Picture Muzik
Future Critical Acclaim: Again, Riddler's roster is too strong in this category. It's not even fair tbh. I can imagine 3stacks and Ye's collab album receiving a lot of positive reviews and accolades. It's a collab that many fans probably dreamed of but would've never thought it would happen. This match is starting to remind me of Ibex match against Yung. The more I look at MPM's roster...the more I see how deadly this label is. Foolish records can't mess MPM in this category at all.
Vote: Motion Pucture Muzik
Longevity: Tie Even though I can imagine MPM outlasting Foolish records, I can see them both sticking around due to having proven artist. It's good that Allergens picked up diddy because that's what made me choose a tie. I feel that having diddy on your label already puts your longevity through the roof. Diddy knows how to stay relevant and always find ways to put his artist in the spotlight (making them walk to Brooklyn for cheescake)
Vote: Tie
Album Covers/Tracklist: I'll start with MPM, I really like that Miguel cover a lot. I think it's dope that you involved his girlfriend and all that, the title fits the cover perfectly. That Beyonce cover is my favorite, it's modern and realistic with Beyonce's current style. I can imagine her dropping that in real life. That Joe Budden cover looks dope to me for some reason too. The cover is average at best but the tracklisting makes up for that. The picture of Joe Budden you used also fits nicely with the them of the album. I can also imagine Budden dropping that, I just feel like the cover could've been made better. On to the bad now, you have a good amount of bad covers too. That Lil Wayne cover is a abomination, looks like the cover for a bootleg mixtape. That Rick Ross cover is creepy as fuck. Ross look like some type of tatted up mythical creature and shit. I see what you tried to do with the Styles P cover but you failed....miserably. It doesnt loiok like something Styles P would drop, you got him looking like one those monsters in Hellraiser...he the only ghost on there with a peanut head. Smh, back to the drawing board with that one fam.
Foolish records also have dope covers and tracklist but like MPM, some are horrible as well. Tbh, Ionly like the Fab and Jean Grae covers a lot. The rest are mediocre at best. Nice tracklist for both albums too, you did a great job with that. There's also a lot of questionable features on your tracklist that I think are unrealistic. I can never imagine a Ghostface and Chief Keef track being made. You should've went full ignorant mode during the auctions/draft and pick up artist like Wocka Floack, Gucci Man, etc. to build around Reese and Chief Keef. I think Choef Keef and Lil reese hurt you more than help you here. They're useless on your label tbh. I like The Cam tracklist (not the cover) but the tracklist is simple and safe. Can't go wrong with it, nice cohesion withthe Lloyd Banks and Juelz features. For som reason, I don't like your group album either. It just doesn't seem like a roster Diddy is cohesive with, the tracklist doesn't look natural to me.
Vote: Tie
Cohesion: I'm going with MPM all the way in this category. Tonydubbz brought up a great point. Allergens should've at least made a sub label to put his other artist in. I really think Chief Keef and Lil reese fucks up the label's chemistry a lot though. Both labels did a good job picking up producers that fit their team. Riddler's label is way more cohesive though. Nice use of the new sub labels that was added in this game. Riddler basically have 2 strong labels, both are cohesive in their own way.
Vote: Motion Picture Musik
Vote: Motion Picture Muzik
Future Critical Acclaim: Again, Riddler's roster is too strong in this category. It's not even fair tbh. I can imagine 3stacks and Ye's collab album receiving a lot of positive reviews and accolades. It's a collab that many fans probably dreamed of but would've never thought it would happen. This match is starting to remind me of Ibex match against Yung. The more I look at MPM's roster...the more I see how deadly this label is. Foolish records can't mess MPM in this category at all.
Vote: Motion Pucture Muzik
Longevity: Tie Even though I can imagine MPM outlasting Foolish records, I can see them both sticking around due to having proven artist. It's good that Allergens picked up diddy because that's what made me choose a tie. I feel that having diddy on your label already puts your longevity through the roof. Diddy knows how to stay relevant and always find ways to put his artist in the spotlight (making them walk to Brooklyn for cheescake)
Vote: Tie
Album Covers/Tracklist: I'll start with MPM, I really like that Miguel cover a lot. I think it's dope that you involved his girlfriend and all that, the title fits the cover perfectly. That Beyonce cover is my favorite, it's modern and realistic with Beyonce's current style. I can imagine her dropping that in real life. That Joe Budden cover looks dope to me for some reason too. The cover is average at best but the tracklisting makes up for that. The picture of Joe Budden you used also fits nicely with the them of the album. I can also imagine Budden dropping that, I just feel like the cover could've been made better. On to the bad now, you have a good amount of bad covers too. That Lil Wayne cover is a abomination, looks like the cover for a bootleg mixtape. That Rick Ross cover is creepy as fuck. Ross look like some type of tatted up mythical creature and shit. I see what you tried to do with the Styles P cover but you failed....miserably. It doesnt loiok like something Styles P would drop, you got him looking like one those monsters in Hellraiser...he the only ghost on there with a peanut head. Smh, back to the drawing board with that one fam.
Foolish records also have dope covers and tracklist but like MPM, some are horrible as well. Tbh, Ionly like the Fab and Jean Grae covers a lot. The rest are mediocre at best. Nice tracklist for both albums too, you did a great job with that. There's also a lot of questionable features on your tracklist that I think are unrealistic. I can never imagine a Ghostface and Chief Keef track being made. You should've went full ignorant mode during the auctions/draft and pick up artist like Wocka Floack, Gucci Man, etc. to build around Reese and Chief Keef. I think Choef Keef and Lil reese hurt you more than help you here. They're useless on your label tbh. I like The Cam tracklist (not the cover) but the tracklist is simple and safe. Can't go wrong with it, nice cohesion withthe Lloyd Banks and Juelz features. For som reason, I don't like your group album either. It just doesn't seem like a roster Diddy is cohesive with, the tracklist doesn't look natural to me.
Vote: Tie
Cohesion: I'm going with MPM all the way in this category. Tonydubbz brought up a great point. Allergens should've at least made a sub label to put his other artist in. I really think Chief Keef and Lil reese fucks up the label's chemistry a lot though. Both labels did a good job picking up producers that fit their team. Riddler's label is way more cohesive though. Nice use of the new sub labels that was added in this game. Riddler basically have 2 strong labels, both are cohesive in their own way.
Vote: Motion Picture Musik
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GovernmentCheese
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@Da Riddler wins with a 3 - 0 sweep. Good job though @allergens
