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If this were to happen, the claim would be the other part of Martin's argument.
Racism is at its worst when people don't think they're racist and fail to realize idly standing by while injustices happen to people of a particular race is just as bad as committing the acts themselves.
The stuff he fought for in the 60s, while horrible, were like mushroom caps. The mycelium--or body--of the fungus is still there. Black folks today assume we've reached the pinnacle because we're not openly called niggers and don't have to eat, drink, and sleep in certain places or get to call white folks "boy" and "girl."
For a new leader to rise, a certain type of intellectual charismatic individual has to rise and make people realize things are far from gravy and stop regurgitating bullshit Reagan "You can succeed with no one but yourself" divisive rhetoric.
His or her fight would boil down to fighting illusions of racism's decline, lack of community, and apathy.
Racism is at its worst when people don't think they're racist and fail to realize idly standing by while injustices happen to people of a particular race is just as bad as committing the acts themselves.
The stuff he fought for in the 60s, while horrible, were like mushroom caps. The mycelium--or body--of the fungus is still there. Black folks today assume we've reached the pinnacle because we're not openly called niggers and don't have to eat, drink, and sleep in certain places or get to call white folks "boy" and "girl."
For a new leader to rise, a certain type of intellectual charismatic individual has to rise and make people realize things are far from gravy and stop regurgitating bullshit Reagan "You can succeed with no one but yourself" divisive rhetoric.
His or her fight would boil down to fighting illusions of racism's decline, lack of community, and apathy.
Inglewood_B
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problem with these "black leaders" (jesse and al)we have now, whenever they show up to something they make the movement/event about them.
them old niggas need to get out the way
them old niggas need to get out the way
kingblaze84
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Any future great leader would have to stand up to our corrupt govt that loves to spend trillions fighting never ending wars and bailing out big banks while towns and other major cities nationwide suffer from budget cuts and high cost of living. He or she should also offer good ideas to improve the economy aside from more deficit spending. We can start from there.
kingblaze84
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Inglewood_B;5279377 said:problem with these "black leaders" (jesse and al)we have now, whenever they show up to something they make the movement/event about them.
them old niggas need to get out the way
Their not really in anybody's way though. The problem is that few other Black leaders today stand up for civil rights and justice, they're more worried about appearing not racist and prejudice. I give Al Sharpton and Jesse credit for at least pretending to care, how many other leaders spoke up for Trayvon and Amadou Diallo? Also don't forget families actively seek them out when fucked up shit happens. I don't like Al Sharpton's opinions on hip hop sometimes but his heart is in the right place.
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playmaker88
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no because negroes will tear em down call em media whores, half breeds and or coons and treat them like black coaches. while caping for a midget cracker who supports their frivolous utopian beliefs
I Self Lord & Master
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kingblaze84;5279601 said:Any future great leader would have to stand up to our corrupt govt that loves to spend trillions fighting never ending wars and bailing out big banks while towns and other major cities nationwide suffer from budget cuts and high cost of living. He or she should also offer good ideas to improve the economy aside from more deficit spending. We can start from there.
a black leader needs to place all that on the periphery of his objectives...cause black people are on the periphery of all that anyway..we get nothing but the "trickle down" effects of any remedies to all of what you mentioned ...if we even get that. and when we speak out about it we get "stop complaining" and "look what we done for you" , "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" and all kinds of bullshit
just as the greatest black (and leaders of any people) they strove to inspire people to,and expose the significance of carving your OWN reality out of life. so,eventually, when you fall on hard times, youll have the capactiy to not turn and plead and beg for benevolence from a mothafucka or group of mothafuckas who really dont give an iota of a shit about you.you can handle that in house..and if you gotta go out of your house, it can be from a position of a returnable favor,rather than some "oh help us, almightly liberal whites" type shit our chosen leadership be on.....shit, that would only be EQUAL...isnt that what we all SAY we want?
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kingblaze84
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I Self Lord & Master;5279846 said:kingblaze84;5279601 said:Any future great leader would have to stand up to our corrupt govt that loves to spend trillions fighting never ending wars and bailing out big banks while towns and other major cities nationwide suffer from budget cuts and high cost of living. He or she should also offer good ideas to improve the economy aside from more deficit spending. We can start from there.
a black leader needs to place all that on the periphery of his objectives...cause black people are on the periphery of all that anyway..we get nothing but the "trickle down" effects of any remedies to all of what you mentioned ...if we even get that. and when we speak out about it we get "stop complaining" and "look what we done for you" , "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" and all kinds of bullshit
just as the greatest black (and leaders of any people) they strove to inspire people to,and expose the significance of carving your OWN reality out of life. so,eventually, when you fall on hard times, youll have the capactiy to not turn and plead and beg for benevolence from a mothafucka or group of mothafuckas who really dont give an iota of a shit about you.you can handle that in house..and if you gotta go out of your house, it can be from a position of a returnable favor,rather than some "oh help us, almightly liberal whites" type shit our chosen leadership be on.....shit, that would only be EQUAL...isnt that what we all SAY we want?
Ok, so what should a great Black leader advocate for then?
Ajackson17
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We have The Honorable President Barrack Hussein Obama, Lupe Fiasco, Nas, Rick Ross, and our very own Towers.
manofmorehouse
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In order to have a great African American leader to take up the reigns from Martin, Maloclm, Al, and Jesse, there has to be strong and unwavering African American supporters. The problem today is that we have mastered the "crab in the barrel" mentality. That, coupled with the idea that all things European are best, is why we struggle to have strong leadership in our communities and political arenas
i am pretty sure these were big stories that were promoted by people of all races, but maybe i am being overly generous?kingblaze84;5279604 said:I give Al Sharpton and Jesse credit for at least pretending to care, how many other leaders spoke up for Trayvon and Amadou Diallo?
kingblaze84
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janklow;5282414 said:i am pretty sure these were big stories that were promoted by people of all races, but maybe i am being overly generous?kingblaze84;5279604 said:I give Al Sharpton and Jesse credit for at least pretending to care, how many other leaders spoke up for Trayvon and Amadou Diallo?
Yeah other people spoke out for Trayvon's murder but not with the same passion Al Sharpton and Jesse had. Many spoke in defense of Trayvon in bits and pieces, while the family asked Jesse and Al to get involved and they delivered. I give the media credit though for helping spread the story.
kingblaze84
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Ajackson17;5280199 said:We have The Honorable President Barrack Hussein Obama, Lupe Fiasco, Nas, Rick Ross, and our very own Towers.
I'm no fan of Obama but I give credit to all the men u named for at least being dedicated to what they believe. Except Rick Ross, how the fuck is he a leader?
Towers....? Maybe I don't go to the GNS enough, he's made some good posts.
perspective@100
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Its not about black and white.
People need to embrace positivity again and stop worshipping bad things. I'm afraid if these black leaders of the 60s die off (relatively soon), we gonna have a bunch of black folk worshipping Big Meech, current random rappers, and ball players as leaders of their community. We need to also embrace intellectual arguments into every black household without a resistance of any sort.
Ajackson17
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kingblaze84;5282772 said:Ajackson17;5280199 said:We have The Honorable President Barrack Hussein Obama, Lupe Fiasco, Nas, Rick Ross, and our very own Towers.
I'm no fan of Obama but I give credit to all the men u named for at least being dedicated to what they believe. Except Rick Ross, how the fuck is he a leader?
Towers....? Maybe I don't go to the GNS enough, he's made some good posts.
I was being sarcastic meaning that we don't have anyone who can step up to the shoes of today's global climate and bring us in to fruition. We only made it half way in the 60s now that has been 50 years ago and the world has changed dramatically since than.
playmaker88
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I dont understand how niggas have co-opted the hate of Al and jesse of white people...
Real shit if Martin and Mlk came during these times they would be hated the same.. even more than they were then BY NIGGAS
Real shit if Martin and Mlk came during these times they would be hated the same.. even more than they were then BY NIGGAS
manofmorehouse
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playmaker88;5283160 said:I dont understand how niggas have co-opted the hate of Al and jesse of white people...
Real shit if Martin and Mlk came during these times they would be hated the same.. even more than they were then BY NIGGAS
Co-sign. It's usually people that are extra young or have no idea about the real shit both men have done. They go off of ideas formulated by White media as well as older ignorant Blacks. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have put in work and have put their lives in danger by consistently being on the front lines of race issues. When no one else could bring home hostages, the U.S. called Jesse Jackson and he brought them dudes home. Niggas need to do some research
playmaker88
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manofmorehouse;5283166 said:playmaker88;5283160 said:I dont understand how niggas have co-opted the hate of Al and jesse of white people...
Real shit if Martin and Mlk came during these times they would be hated the same.. even more than they were then BY NIGGAS
Co-sign. It's usually people that are extra young or have no idea about the real shit both men have done. They go off of ideas formulated by White media as well as older ignorant Blacks. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have put in work and have put their lives in danger by consistently being on the front lines of race issues. When no one else could bring home hostages, the U.S. called Jesse Jackson and he brought them dudes home. Niggas need to do some research
yes and multiple times
People say they are attention seeking... blah blah..they bought attention to those situation.. I have no problem with this, they rode for many causes across the borders or race and land..they had missteps along the way.. but they were and are important to us and America as a whole..
ahhh.. fuck it im done...
High Revolutionary
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They already laid the blueprint. What we need another black leader for?
