Comparin' blacks to gays...

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The progenitors of Western Civilization were heavily gay friendly.

How homosexuals in Western culture have been treated in the past is irrelevant to how they're treated today. The comparison is valid. Blacks aren't the world's special, "chosen" people, they are not the underdogs of the universe ( not on the basis of their being Black). Discrimination against anyone on the grounds that they're Black, gay, overweight, female, chimpanzee etc. is wrong for the same reason : it's wrong to mistreat people, everyone's interests should be given equal consideration.

It's not more complicated than that. Bashing someone's skull in because they're Black isn't any worse than bashing their skull in for any other reason.
 
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Huruma;3094558 said:
How homosexuals in Western culture have been treated in the past is irrelevant to how they're treated today. The comparison is valid. Blacks aren't the world's special, "chosen" people, they are not the underdogs of the universe ( not on the basis of their being Black). Discrimination against anyone on the grounds that they're Black, gay, overweight, female, chimpanzee etc. is wrong for the same reason : it's wrong to mistreat people, everyone's interests should be given equal consideration.

It's not more complicated than that. Bashing someone's skull in because they're Black isn't any worse than bashing their skull in for any other reason.

It's not the same shit at all

There isn't an entire government persecuting and supporting discrimination against homosexuals like there was for black people. Homosexuals make themselves out to be more victims than they are.
 
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7fIG;3094578 said:
It's not the same shit at all

There isn't an entire government persecuting and supporting discrimination against homosexuals like there was for black people. Homosexuals make themselves out to be more victims than they are.

The U.S government (or any other) does not support systematic discrimination against Black people. Systematic discrimination is needing a pass to go into certain neighborhoods, not being allowed to use certain public facilities, not being allowed to vote etc.

In 1979, the Iranian government executed more than 4000 people for having sex with members of the same sex. In many countries in the world, homosexuality is illegal.

'Groups' are an abstraction. Some individual gays endure more discrimination and abuse (on the basis of their being gay) than some Black people do. For example, some Black people have never been tortured by skinheads, tied to a face and left to die because they're Black, some gay people (ie. Matthew Shepherd) have. Chances are, you've never experienced the discrimination that Matthew Shepherd did (I could be wrong). He's dead now, because of homophobic prejudice.
 
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7fIG;3094578 said:
It's not the same shit at all

There isn't an entire government persecuting and supporting discrimination against homosexuals like there was for black people. Homosexuals make themselves out to be more victims than they are.

Cosign last time I check they did not have a gay fountain or straight fountain to drink from. I find it disrespectful to compare blacks struggles to gays, black people were considered 3/5 of a man not to long ago.
 
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Mr.LV;3094607 said:
Cosign last time I check they did not have a gay fountain or straight fountain to drink from. I find it disrespectful to compare blacks struggles to gays, black people were considered 3/5 of a man not to long ago.

Neither do you.

Black people aren't legally considered 3/5th of a human being today. What's 'disrespectful' is comparing the struggles of (most) contemporary Black people to the struggles of 19th century slaves.
 
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Huruma;3094611 said:
Neither do you.

Black people aren't legally considered 3/5th of a human being today. What's 'disrespectful' is comparing the struggles of (most) contemporary Black people to the struggles of 19th century slaves.

Dude is making some good points though........
 
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Cosign this thread. All that gay shit is a choice. If you don't want to be labeled as gay, stop acting feminine in public, and no one will be able to tell your sexuality. Simple as that.

You can't change your skin color. Also, I don't remember gay people not having the right to vote, or being treated as 2nd class citizens by the government.
 
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i want to snap everytime i hear this.

s/n i didnt the huruma dude was a fag
 
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Huruma;3094611 said:
Neither do you.

Black people aren't legally considered 3/5th of a human being today. What's 'disrespectful' is comparing the struggles of (most) contemporary Black people to the struggles of 19th century slaves.

What about voting? Sure we were given the right to vote in the mid 1800s, but we weren't actually able to vote until the mid 1900s. People that experienced that are STILL ALIVE. What about being treated as 2nd class citizens in general? I can speak to my grandparents, shit even my parents and they have stories about how they weren't allowed to do *insert activity here* because they were black.

Gay people never had to go through that.

P.S. Are you gay?
 
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I dont know man but all I know is that them skin heads be mirking gay people around my way and uits sad as fuck.AAlso teenagers are joining that dumbass movemente and beating the fuck outta them in public.I dont think thats human like.
 
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Huruma;3094558 said:
How homosexuals in Western culture have been treated in the past is irrelevant to how they're treated today. The comparison is valid. Blacks aren't the world's special, "chosen" people, they are not the underdogs of the universe ( not on the basis of their being Black). Discrimination against anyone on the grounds that they're Black, gay, overweight, female, chimpanzee etc. is wrong for the same reason : it's wrong to mistreat people, everyone's interests should be given equal consideration.

It's not more complicated than that. Bashing someone's skull in because they're Black isn't any worse than bashing their skull in for any other reason.

...and your delusional soft emo ass of course missed the point. Smh @ this fucking prick.
 
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7fIG;3094578 said:
It's not the same shit at all

There isn't an entire government persecuting and supporting discrimination against homosexuals like there was for black people.
Homosexuals make themselves out to be more victims than they are.

umm actually being a homosexual is still illegal in not only places outside the US, but places in the US too...and yes you can be killed for it...
 
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Cabana_Da_Don;3094706 said:
I dont know man but all I know is that them skin heads be mirking gay people around my way and uits sad as fuck.AAlso teenagers are joining that dumbass movemente and beating the fuck outta them in public.I dont think thats human like.

blackrain;3094715 said:
umm actually being a homosexual is still illegal in not only places outside the US, but places in the US too...and yes you can be killed for it...

Maybe they should smarten up, and stop acting gay in public.
 
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MAKAVELI25;3094687 said:
Dude is making some good points though........

He's not. When gay people compare their "struggle" to the civil rights movement, it doesn't refer to present day struggles of blacks which is still worse than treatment of homosexuals today. When they go and start comparing the gay rights movement to to the civil rights movement, that's disrespectful and as a black man, you should be offended whether you lived during that period or not.
 
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