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5th Letter;c-9962869 said:
I get what he meant, I just wouldn't have worded it like that.

I said the wrong thing. I don't even remember expressing it like that, but now I understand why people came at me the way they did, and they were right to do so.
 
The Lonious Monk;c-9962169 said:
Copper;c-9960547 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9960032 said:
blackrain;c-9958707 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9957973 said:
blackrain;c-9957556 said:
Kaep was also playing injured when his decline started. Then the team he came back to was nowhere near as good as the one that made the SB run. Nigga they have used everything from the protest to him being a vegan as "evidence" he doesn't want to play. They using anything they can and you just mirroring their talking points.

The nigga had some bad seasons period. I'm not mirroring anything. I'm just stating facts. People are making it seem like Kaep was a MVP contender before this all started. He wasn't. A lot of teams weren't checking for him then, so I'm not sure why you guys are acting like every team now wants him, but is refusing to take him because of blackballing. If you think Kaep is being blackballed, fine. I say the same thing. But why are niggas acting like I'm saying something crazy just by suggesting that some of the teams that aren't picking him up are doing so for football reasons and not as a punishment?

Because you not talking football reasons. You in here half was guessing about his desire to keep playing and asking if he's even training. You admitted you're uninformed and instead of taking the information given you're still debating. That's not smart

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I don't know what work Kap has put in. All I'm saying is that its not out of line for someone in the industry to say they aren't sure if he's committed if they haven't seen proof. .

Thats some shit thats easily can be googled. He has an entire website of tracking his work.

If its some shit you dont know why question it?

What is it that I'm saying that is getting lost in translation here? I'm not questioning it. I don't make the decision so his work ethic doesn't matter to me. I'm saying that people involved in the decisions are questioning it, and you can't just dismiss them when they say they haven't seen what they need to see.

Again, I've said over and over again that I don't know what he has or hasn't done, so I'm not saying who is right or wrong. My only point is that people may be exaggerating the significance of this "black balling." Are there teams that are passing on him because of what he's done. Of course, the owner of the Giants basically admitted he was doing just that. But there are 32 teams in the NFL. Let's be real. How many of them actually need Kaep and how many of them are passing on because of blackballing and not because he doesn't fit their system, he hasn't improved his weaknesses to the extent that the coaches want to see, the team doesn't need a QB, etc...

I never said Kap wasn't being blackballed and I don't completely agree with people like Jim Brown. I just believe you can wholesale dismiss the points they are making. I don't understand why people on the IC think in such extreme terms. Shit ain't just black and white. In real life, its usually gray.

Because there's actual proof against what they're saying when questioning his desire to play...so there's no reason to include that among the reasons of him not currently being signed
 
Copper;c-9962504 said:
Dare to be different ass nigga

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blackrain;c-9962879 said:
Because there's actual proof against what they're saying when questioning his desire to play...so there's no reason to include that among the reasons of him not currently being signed

I seen people say that his people have been in contact with teams about playing, and I've seen people say that he's maintained a conditioning and training regiment during the summer. Is that the proof you're talking about or am I missing something because isn't really what people are talking about when they question his desire to play or rather his commitment to the game.
 
The Lonious Monk;c-9962885 said:
blackrain;c-9962879 said:
Because there's actual proof against what they're saying when questioning his desire to play...so there's no reason to include that among the reasons of him not currently being signed

I seen people say that his people have been in contact with teams about playing, and I've seen people say that he's maintained a conditioning and training regiment during the summer. Is that the proof you're talking about or am I missing something because isn't really what people are talking about when they question his desire to play or rather his commitment to the game.

Nigga they've used everything to question his commitment to the game they can think of. One GM said he's not sure Kaep wants to play because he's a vegan now. That has shit to do with ability or desire to play. So when you have clear proof hes making an active effort to get signed yet you still on some "well I'm not sure" shit you look stupid
 
blackrain;c-9962899 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9962885 said:
blackrain;c-9962879 said:
Because there's actual proof against what they're saying when questioning his desire to play...so there's no reason to include that among the reasons of him not currently being signed

I seen people say that his people have been in contact with teams about playing, and I've seen people say that he's maintained a conditioning and training regiment during the summer. Is that the proof you're talking about or am I missing something because isn't really what people are talking about when they question his desire to play or rather his commitment to the game.

Nigga they've used everything to question his commitment to the game they can think of. One GM said he's not sure Kaep wants to play because he's a vegan now. That has shit to do with ability or desire to play. So when you have clear proof hes making an active effort to get signed yet you still on some "well I'm not sure" shit you look stupid

I'm not taking about petty shit like that though. I'm talking about reasons like pocket passing ability or system compatibility. You keep trying to convince me he's getting a bad deal. We agree on that. I'm just saying you can't summarily dismiss everyone who passes in him as doing it for despicable reasons.
 
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The Lonious Monk;c-9962872 said:
5th Letter;c-9962869 said:
I get what he meant, I just wouldn't have worded it like that.

I said the wrong thing. I don't even remember expressing it like that, but now I understand why people came at me the way they did, and they were right to do so.

I was talking about the ajackson post
 
The Lonious Monk;c-9962919 said:
5th Letter;c-9962913 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9962872 said:
5th Letter;c-9962869 said:
I get what he meant, I just wouldn't have worded it like that.

I said the wrong thing. I don't even remember expressing it like that, but now I understand why people came at me the way they did, and they were right to do so.

I was talking about the ajackson post

Oh, my bad.

Something is wrong with this nigga...
 
Copper;c-9963012 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9962919 said:
5th Letter;c-9962913 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9962872 said:
5th Letter;c-9962869 said:
I get what he meant, I just wouldn't have worded it like that.

I said the wrong thing. I don't even remember expressing it like that, but now I understand why people came at me the way they did, and they were right to do so.

I was talking about the ajackson post

Oh, my bad.

Something is wrong with this nigga...

Something is wrong with me because I mistakenly took his unquoted post as being directed at me and expressed that it was a mistake? You are really going out of your way to be a catty lil bitch now huh?
 
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The Lonious Monk;c-9962906 said:
blackrain;c-9962899 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9962885 said:
blackrain;c-9962879 said:
Because there's actual proof against what they're saying when questioning his desire to play...so there's no reason to include that among the reasons of him not currently being signed

I seen people say that his people have been in contact with teams about playing, and I've seen people say that he's maintained a conditioning and training regiment during the summer. Is that the proof you're talking about or am I missing something because isn't really what people are talking about when they question his desire to play or rather his commitment to the game.

Nigga they've used everything to question his commitment to the game they can think of. One GM said he's not sure Kaep wants to play because he's a vegan now. That has shit to do with ability or desire to play. So when you have clear proof hes making an active effort to get signed yet you still on some "well I'm not sure" shit you look stupid

I'm not taking about petty shit like that though. I'm talking about reasons like pocket passing ability or system compatibility. You keep trying to convince me he's getting a bad deal. We agree on that. I'm just saying you can't summarily dismiss everyone who passes in him as doing it for despicable reasons.

Time to end this pointless argument you keep trying to have. Ravens talked to him and so did the Seahawks. Before the protest the Broncos, Texans and Browns all were trying to trade for him while the 9ers didn't want to let him go. Now common sense would suggest that nothing you mention is a concern of at least the teams mentioned. If they were why would teams want him before the protest and why would 2 teams have even spoken with him afterwards? It's not hard to understand.
 
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VulcanRaven;c-9963367 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9962906 said:
blackrain;c-9962899 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9962885 said:
blackrain;c-9962879 said:
Because there's actual proof against what they're saying when questioning his desire to play...so there's no reason to include that among the reasons of him not currently being signed

I seen people say that his people have been in contact with teams about playing, and I've seen people say that he's maintained a conditioning and training regiment during the summer. Is that the proof you're talking about or am I missing something because isn't really what people are talking about when they question his desire to play or rather his commitment to the game.

Nigga they've used everything to question his commitment to the game they can think of. One GM said he's not sure Kaep wants to play because he's a vegan now. That has shit to do with ability or desire to play. So when you have clear proof hes making an active effort to get signed yet you still on some "well I'm not sure" shit you look stupid

I'm not taking about petty shit like that though. I'm talking about reasons like pocket passing ability or system compatibility. You keep trying to convince me he's getting a bad deal. We agree on that. I'm just saying you can't summarily dismiss everyone who passes in him as doing it for despicable reasons.

Time to end this pointless argument you keep trying to have. Ravens talked to him and so did the Seahawks. Before the protest the Broncos, Texans and Browns all were trying to trade for him while the 9ers didn't want to let him go. Now common sense would suggest that nothing you mention is a concern of at least the teams mentioned. If they were why would teams want him before the protest and why would 2 teams have even spoken with him afterwards? It's not hard to understand.

You're talking like every time teams talk to a player, they wind up taking that player. That's not even close to true. And in the case of the Texans and the Browns, they both have new QBs they are running with and back-ups. That is more likely the reason they aren't going after Kap now. I do think blackballing had something to do with the Ravens passing on him though. I think the team might have wanted to give him a shot, but the owner shot it down.
 
The Lonious Monk;c-9963612 said:
VulcanRaven;c-9963367 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9962906 said:
blackrain;c-9962899 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9962885 said:
blackrain;c-9962879 said:
Because there's actual proof against what they're saying when questioning his desire to play...so there's no reason to include that among the reasons of him not currently being signed

I seen people say that his people have been in contact with teams about playing, and I've seen people say that he's maintained a conditioning and training regiment during the summer. Is that the proof you're talking about or am I missing something because isn't really what people are talking about when they question his desire to play or rather his commitment to the game.

Nigga they've used everything to question his commitment to the game they can think of. One GM said he's not sure Kaep wants to play because he's a vegan now. That has shit to do with ability or desire to play. So when you have clear proof hes making an active effort to get signed yet you still on some "well I'm not sure" shit you look stupid

I'm not taking about petty shit like that though. I'm talking about reasons like pocket passing ability or system compatibility. You keep trying to convince me he's getting a bad deal. We agree on that. I'm just saying you can't summarily dismiss everyone who passes in him as doing it for despicable reasons.

Time to end this pointless argument you keep trying to have. Ravens talked to him and so did the Seahawks. Before the protest the Broncos, Texans and Browns all were trying to trade for him while the 9ers didn't want to let him go. Now common sense would suggest that nothing you mention is a concern of at least the teams mentioned. If they were why would teams want him before the protest and why would 2 teams have even spoken with him afterwards? It's not hard to understand.

You're talking like every time teams talk to a player, they wind up taking that player. That's not even close to true. And in the case of the Texans and the Browns, they both have new QBs they are running with and back-ups. That is more likely the reason they aren't going after Kap now. I do think blackballing had something to do with the Ravens passing on him though. I think the team might have wanted to give him a shot, but the owner shot it down.

But the bills have two QB that is under concussion protocol and they sign Keith Wenning because he is familiar with the buffalo Offensive coordinator, lol. This excuse they going to use because it is the same as Jay cutler and Gase connection. Wenning never played an NFL season game. Now the eagles have a backup QB that is injured. Same song and dance here, trying to find a reason not sign a QB that went to a Super Bowl. 37 QB signed before Kaep and none has the resume of a super bowl appearance either.
 
5th Letter;c-9962913 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9962872 said:
5th Letter;c-9962869 said:
I get what he meant, I just wouldn't have worded it like that.

I said the wrong thing. I don't even remember expressing it like that, but now I understand why people came at me the way they did, and they were right to do so.

I was talking about the ajackson post

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Nigga thought he made a friend
 
dnyce215;c-9963897 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9963612 said:
VulcanRaven;c-9963367 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9962906 said:
blackrain;c-9962899 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9962885 said:
blackrain;c-9962879 said:
Because there's actual proof against what they're saying when questioning his desire to play...so there's no reason to include that among the reasons of him not currently being signed

I seen people say that his people have been in contact with teams about playing, and I've seen people say that he's maintained a conditioning and training regiment during the summer. Is that the proof you're talking about or am I missing something because isn't really what people are talking about when they question his desire to play or rather his commitment to the game.

Nigga they've used everything to question his commitment to the game they can think of. One GM said he's not sure Kaep wants to play because he's a vegan now. That has shit to do with ability or desire to play. So when you have clear proof hes making an active effort to get signed yet you still on some "well I'm not sure" shit you look stupid

I'm not taking about petty shit like that though. I'm talking about reasons like pocket passing ability or system compatibility. You keep trying to convince me he's getting a bad deal. We agree on that. I'm just saying you can't summarily dismiss everyone who passes in him as doing it for despicable reasons.

Time to end this pointless argument you keep trying to have. Ravens talked to him and so did the Seahawks. Before the protest the Broncos, Texans and Browns all were trying to trade for him while the 9ers didn't want to let him go. Now common sense would suggest that nothing you mention is a concern of at least the teams mentioned. If they were why would teams want him before the protest and why would 2 teams have even spoken with him afterwards? It's not hard to understand.

You're talking like every time teams talk to a player, they wind up taking that player. That's not even close to true. And in the case of the Texans and the Browns, they both have new QBs they are running with and back-ups. That is more likely the reason they aren't going after Kap now. I do think blackballing had something to do with the Ravens passing on him though. I think the team might have wanted to give him a shot, but the owner shot it down.

But the bills have two QB that is under concussion protocol and they sign Keith Wenning because he is familiar with the buffalo Offensive coordinator, lol. This excuse they going to use because it is the same as Jay cutler and Gase connection. Wenning never played an NFL season game. Now the eagles have a backup QB that is injured. Same song and dance here, trying to find a reason not sign a QB that went to a Super Bowl. 37 QB signed before Kaep and none has the resume of a super bowl appearance either.

The Miami situation is different than every other team in the league. Even though he explained himself Kaep wearing that Castro shirt in Miami last season is a whole different thing. Miami is legit the only team in the league where a good part of the fan base would be a problem based off that Castro shirt.

I'm a Dolphins fan so I get it. Also the precedent has already been set in that regard. When the Ozzie Guillen who is latino and was the manager of the Marlins I believe at the time said something in favor of Castro those Cubans in the whole Miami area got him up out the paint over that shit.

Every other team in the league besides Miami is basically just bullshitting and black balling Kaep.
 
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