Colin Kaepernick refuses “to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses Black people”...

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The Lonious Monk;c-9957423 said:
Trillfate;c-9957248 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9957152 said:
Trillfate;c-9957145 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9956948 said:
Koltrain;c-9956938 said:
Maybe I'm missing something, but when has he said he doesn't want to play?

No one said he said that he didn't want to play. I said this in another topic and got a lot of Wack reactions for some reason even though its fact. When pro players in pretty much any sport are on the verge of being out of the league and they want to make a case for staying, they basically spend the whole off season working hard to make that case. They get personal coaches, train with other big name players, try to improve where people say they are lacking, make performance tapes to send to teams for consideration, etc... That's pretty much the expectation for players who are trying to stay in the league. Kaep really hasn't done that, and people who are in the business of deciding if teams are interested in certain players have noted that. I believe you can be a pro athlete and activist. It's been done before. But I also believe that commitment to one can impede commitment to the other. That's the case for anything. If some feel that Kaep should have been dedicating the off season to preparing for this season, they aren't out of line to question his commitment to football when he seems to basically have spent the entired off season doing activism and philanthropy.

Bruh.

There's what 30, 32 teams? 3 QBs each

All 90+ of those QBs aint better than Kap, period. He doesnt have to do Extra shit to prove shit to anyone. Im pretty sure this offseason has been no different than previous ones training-wise.

Black QBs always have to do extra shit. Protests aside, we know that NFL has never been fair with black QBs, especially those who don't play the traditional game well. So it's just not true to say that Kaep didn't need to prove shit. People have been calling him out for years on his inability to play in the pocket, so at the very least, if he thought he was on the way out, he would have done something to promote the idea that he was working on that problem.

Again, I'm not suggesting anything above and beyond. If you were about to get fired from your job and you had performance assessments that constantly pointed at one negative. Wouldn't you try to prove that you fixed that? I don't know. I'm not saying you guys are wrong. I just don't think you can dismiss this line of reasoning.

People really lose sight of the fact that ALL he did was kneel and wear funny clothes.

Everything else has been the Worlds reaction.

He didn't do anything wrong, he shouldnt conform to anything Jay Culter wasn't subjected to to get another gig

I get what you're saying, but I think you're losing sight of the fact that even before he started kneeling, he was already being criticized for his football playing ability. Shit has gone down hill for him after that Superbowl and after Harbaugh left. Keep in mind, when he started kneeling, he wasn't even starting. He was a back-up. So people acting like he's some kinda elite QB that's being treated like trash because he kneeled are exaggerating. He was a QB that still had some talent, but needed the right system and some work before he kneeled. Now he's a QB that still needs to be in the right system and still needs some work on top of being unfairly treated because he took a stand.

And I don't like Jay Cutler, but he's demonstrated better pocket passing than Kaep over a longer period of time. You can't just say that Kaep deserves a spot over him. Cutler's career numbers are better than Kaep's and he can probably be more easily integrated into a lot of these systems out there.

Kaep was also playing injured when his decline started. Then the team he came back to was nowhere near as good as the one that made the SB run. Nigga they have used everything from the protest to him being a vegan as "evidence" he doesn't want to play. They using anything they can and you just mirroring their talking points.
 
stringer bell;c-9957485 said:
https://twitter.com/bebochit/status/901112838432980992
https://twitter.com/kathluvsgop/status/901127480001445889

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Wait. Brown really said kap is desecrating the flag and national anthem?

I let the trump thing slide.. But he might really be lost

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blackrain;c-9957556 said:
Kaep was also playing injured when his decline started. Then the team he came back to was nowhere near as good as the one that made the SB run. Nigga they have used everything from the protest to him being a vegan as "evidence" he doesn't want to play. They using anything they can and you just mirroring their talking points.

The nigga had some bad seasons period. I'm not mirroring anything. I'm just stating facts. People are making it seem like Kaep was a MVP contender before this all started. He wasn't. A lot of teams weren't checking for him then, so I'm not sure why you guys are acting like every team now wants him, but is refusing to take him because of blackballing. If you think Kaep is being blackballed, fine. I say the same thing. But why are niggas acting like I'm saying something crazy just by suggesting that some of the teams that aren't picking him up are doing so for football reasons and not as a punishment?

 
The Lonious Monk;c-9957973 said:
blackrain;c-9957556 said:
Kaep was also playing injured when his decline started. Then the team he came back to was nowhere near as good as the one that made the SB run. Nigga they have used everything from the protest to him being a vegan as "evidence" he doesn't want to play. They using anything they can and you just mirroring their talking points.

The nigga had some bad seasons period. I'm not mirroring anything. I'm just stating facts. People are making it seem like Kaep was a MVP contender before this all started. He wasn't. A lot of teams weren't checking for him then, so I'm not sure why you guys are acting like every team now wants him, but is refusing to take him because of blackballing. If you think Kaep is being blackballed, fine. I say the same thing. But why are niggas acting like I'm saying something crazy just by suggesting that some of the teams that aren't picking him up are doing so for football reasons and not as a punishment?

So him having a 3-1 turnover ratio is bad?
 
The Lonious Monk;c-9957973 said:
blackrain;c-9957556 said:
Kaep was also playing injured when his decline started. Then the team he came back to was nowhere near as good as the one that made the SB run. Nigga they have used everything from the protest to him being a vegan as "evidence" he doesn't want to play. They using anything they can and you just mirroring their talking points.

The nigga had some bad seasons period. I'm not mirroring anything. I'm just stating facts. People are making it seem like Kaep was a MVP contender before this all started. He wasn't. A lot of teams weren't checking for him then, so I'm not sure why you guys are acting like every team now wants him, but is refusing to take him because of blackballing. If you think Kaep is being blackballed, fine. I say the same thing. But why are niggas acting like I'm saying something crazy just by suggesting that some of the teams that aren't picking him up are doing so for football reasons and not as a punishment?

Because you not talking football reasons. You in here half was guessing about his desire to keep playing and asking if he's even training. You admitted you're uninformed and instead of taking the information given you're still debating. That's not smart
 
blackrain;c-9958707 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9957973 said:
blackrain;c-9957556 said:
Kaep was also playing injured when his decline started. Then the team he came back to was nowhere near as good as the one that made the SB run. Nigga they have used everything from the protest to him being a vegan as "evidence" he doesn't want to play. They using anything they can and you just mirroring their talking points.

The nigga had some bad seasons period. I'm not mirroring anything. I'm just stating facts. People are making it seem like Kaep was a MVP contender before this all started. He wasn't. A lot of teams weren't checking for him then, so I'm not sure why you guys are acting like every team now wants him, but is refusing to take him because of blackballing. If you think Kaep is being blackballed, fine. I say the same thing. But why are niggas acting like I'm saying something crazy just by suggesting that some of the teams that aren't picking him up are doing so for football reasons and not as a punishment?

Because you not talking football reasons. You in here half was guessing about his desire to keep playing and asking if he's even training. You admitted you're uninformed and instead of taking the information given you're still debating. That's not smart

95% of Lonious posts are "well, i do see ur point but lets look at it from the other side too". He's a "many sides" Donald Trump type nigga. I'm sure he's prolly trollin bc no nigga activley looks to defend the other side of everything. I remember that time Lil Wayne shitted on BLM, making complete fool of himself on tv, this nigga came rushing in threads saying "i dont see the coonery, we dont know whats in his heart". This nigga be trollin
 
blackrain;c-9958707 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9957973 said:
blackrain;c-9957556 said:
Kaep was also playing injured when his decline started. Then the team he came back to was nowhere near as good as the one that made the SB run. Nigga they have used everything from the protest to him being a vegan as "evidence" he doesn't want to play. They using anything they can and you just mirroring their talking points.

The nigga had some bad seasons period. I'm not mirroring anything. I'm just stating facts. People are making it seem like Kaep was a MVP contender before this all started. He wasn't. A lot of teams weren't checking for him then, so I'm not sure why you guys are acting like every team now wants him, but is refusing to take him because of blackballing. If you think Kaep is being blackballed, fine. I say the same thing. But why are niggas acting like I'm saying something crazy just by suggesting that some of the teams that aren't picking him up are doing so for football reasons and not as a punishment?

Because you not talking football reasons. You in here half was guessing about his desire to keep playing and asking if he's even training. You admitted you're uninformed and instead of taking the information given you're still debating. That's not smart

Ya'll are talking like I'm passing judgement on Kap. I don't understand why you keep saying this shit while simultaneously acknowledging that I've admitted I don't have the info to do that.

I don't know what work Kap has put in. All I'm saying is that its not out of line for someone in the industry to say they aren't sure if he's committed if they haven't seen proof. There are also football reasons why teams would pass on him. I've said multiple times that I believe he's being blackballed, but I also believe that there are only a handful of teams that actually need him.
 
Broddie;c-9952824 said:
Trillfate;c-9952352 said:
Hip hop takes an L for embracing this cac

Typical of most white men. They always come forward as progressive allies in their 20s to appropriate outside culture. Then just end up ideologically becoming their fathers or grandaddies when they reach their 40s.

but young niggas think it's all cool now
 
blackamerica;c-9958939 said:
blackrain;c-9958707 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9957973 said:
blackrain;c-9957556 said:
Kaep was also playing injured when his decline started. Then the team he came back to was nowhere near as good as the one that made the SB run. Nigga they have used everything from the protest to him being a vegan as "evidence" he doesn't want to play. They using anything they can and you just mirroring their talking points.

The nigga had some bad seasons period. I'm not mirroring anything. I'm just stating facts. People are making it seem like Kaep was a MVP contender before this all started. He wasn't. A lot of teams weren't checking for him then, so I'm not sure why you guys are acting like every team now wants him, but is refusing to take him because of blackballing. If you think Kaep is being blackballed, fine. I say the same thing. But why are niggas acting like I'm saying something crazy just by suggesting that some of the teams that aren't picking him up are doing so for football reasons and not as a punishment?

Because you not talking football reasons. You in here half was guessing about his desire to keep playing and asking if he's even training. You admitted you're uninformed and instead of taking the information given you're still debating. That's not smart

95% of Lonious posts are "well, i do see ur point but lets look at it from the other side too". He's a "many sides" Donald Trump type nigga. I'm sure he's prolly trollin bc no nigga activley looks to defend the other side of everything. I remember that time Lil Wayne shitted on BLM, making complete fool of himself on tv, this nigga came rushing in threads saying "i dont see the coonery, we dont know whats in his heart". This nigga be trollin

i do....I always try to look at both sides .but I know when to shut up.

some shit just don't have another side.
 
blackamerica;c-9958939 said:
blackrain;c-9958707 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9957973 said:
blackrain;c-9957556 said:
Kaep was also playing injured when his decline started. Then the team he came back to was nowhere near as good as the one that made the SB run. Nigga they have used everything from the protest to him being a vegan as "evidence" he doesn't want to play. They using anything they can and you just mirroring their talking points.

The nigga had some bad seasons period. I'm not mirroring anything. I'm just stating facts. People are making it seem like Kaep was a MVP contender before this all started. He wasn't. A lot of teams weren't checking for him then, so I'm not sure why you guys are acting like every team now wants him, but is refusing to take him because of blackballing. If you think Kaep is being blackballed, fine. I say the same thing. But why are niggas acting like I'm saying something crazy just by suggesting that some of the teams that aren't picking him up are doing so for football reasons and not as a punishment?

Because you not talking football reasons. You in here half was guessing about his desire to keep playing and asking if he's even training. You admitted you're uninformed and instead of taking the information given you're still debating. That's not smart

95% of Lonious posts are "well, i do see ur point but lets look at it from the other side too". He's a "many sides" Donald Trump type nigga. I'm sure he's prolly trollin bc no nigga activley looks to defend the other side of everything. I remember that time Lil Wayne shitted on BLM, making complete fool of himself on tv, this nigga came rushing in threads saying "i dont see the coonery, we dont know whats in his heart". This nigga be trollin

This nigga wants so bad for me to give a shit what he thinks.

Sad #loserblackamerica

Seriously though, you're a liar and an idiot. I never defended Wayne. I asked why anyone cared what that drug addicted idiot thinks. If you going to follow me from thread to thread whining about my posts, at least get then right
 
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The Lonious Monk;c-9960032 said:
blackrain;c-9958707 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9957973 said:
blackrain;c-9957556 said:
Kaep was also playing injured when his decline started. Then the team he came back to was nowhere near as good as the one that made the SB run. Nigga they have used everything from the protest to him being a vegan as "evidence" he doesn't want to play. They using anything they can and you just mirroring their talking points.

The nigga had some bad seasons period. I'm not mirroring anything. I'm just stating facts. People are making it seem like Kaep was a MVP contender before this all started. He wasn't. A lot of teams weren't checking for him then, so I'm not sure why you guys are acting like every team now wants him, but is refusing to take him because of blackballing. If you think Kaep is being blackballed, fine. I say the same thing. But why are niggas acting like I'm saying something crazy just by suggesting that some of the teams that aren't picking him up are doing so for football reasons and not as a punishment?

Because you not talking football reasons. You in here half was guessing about his desire to keep playing and asking if he's even training. You admitted you're uninformed and instead of taking the information given you're still debating. That's not smart

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I don't know what work Kap has put in. All I'm saying is that its not out of line for someone in the industry to say they aren't sure if he's committed if they haven't seen proof. .

Thats some shit thats easily can be googled. He has an entire website of tracking his work.

If its some shit you dont know why question it?
 

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