Colin Kaepernick refuses “to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses Black people”...

[Koltrain]

Maybe I'm missing something, but when has he said he doesn't want to play? If a player is dedicated to his family outside of football, does that mean he don't wanna play and he can't do both? If a player is dedicated to building businesses outside of football, does that mean he don't wanna play? I don't get it.

 

[_Jay_]

Fuck Jim Brown. he pissed away whatever respect he had left sucking on Trump's dick.

and he wouldn't have said the same thing to Ali. of course Kaep can do both.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Maybe I'm missing something, but when has he said he doesn't want to play?

No one said he said that he didn't want to play. I said this in another topic and got a lot of Wack reactions for some reason even though its fact. When pro players in pretty much any sport are on the verge of being out of the league and they want to make a case for staying, they basically spend the whole off season working hard to make that case. They get personal coaches, train with other big name players, try to improve where people say they are lacking, make performance tapes to send to teams for consideration, etc... That's pretty much the expectation for players who are trying to stay in the league. Kaep really hasn't done that, and people who are in the business of deciding if teams are interested in certain players have noted that. I believe you can be a pro athlete and activist. It's been done before. But I also believe that commitment to one can impede commitment to the other. That's the case for anything. If some feel that Kaep should have been dedicating the off season to preparing for this season, they aren't out of line to question his commitment to football when he seems to basically have spent the entired off season doing activism and philanthropy.

 

[jono]

Same dude who played with Vick fresh out of prison.. he never said Vick was a distraction

He explained the difference

Vick is a great talent, worth the distraction.

Kap is not.

 

[Moore7s]

I see Jim Browns point.

It's an issue we have to face as a community. Are you focused on your individual situation or the issues we face as a culture? As long as kaepernick plays, his play will benefit a league that has shown no interest in our community . His play will generate revenue for owners who dgaf about us.

Stuff like this is why Malcolm and the panthers initially said we need a separate place for us to exist OUTSIDE of the structure America has set up.

Personally, I'm not sure which method is best for black people. I definitely see the conflict though

 

[Chi Snow]

Maybe I'm missing something, but when has he said he doesn't want to play?

No one said he said that he didn't want to play. I said this in another topic and got a lot of Wack reactions for some reason even though its fact. When pro players in pretty much any sport are on the verge of being out of the league and they want to make a case for staying, they basically spend the whole off season working hard to make that case. They get personal coaches, train with other big name players, try to improve where people say they are lacking, make performance tapes to send to teams for consideration, etc... That's pretty much the expectation for players who are trying to stay in the league. Kaep really hasn't done that, and people who are in the business of deciding if teams are interested in certain players have noted that. I believe you can be a pro athlete and activist. It's been done before. But I also believe that commitment to one can impede commitment to the other. That's the case for anything. If some feel that Kaep should have been dedicating the off season to preparing for this season, they aren't out of line to question his commitment to football when he seems to basically have spent the entired off season doing activism and philanthropy.

You keep saying this and have been shown irrefutable evidence contrary to the narrative you been pushing

Now he needs to make tapes and send them out to teams? Now he gotta practice with big name stars? Why? What other off season acquisition has done this?

He gotta jump thru hoops to get back into a league he shouldn't have been out of to begin with.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Maybe I'm missing something, but when has he said he doesn't want to play?

No one said he said that he didn't want to play. I said this in another topic and got a lot of Wack reactions for some reason even though its fact. When pro players in pretty much any sport are on the verge of being out of the league and they want to make a case for staying, they basically spend the whole off season working hard to make that case. They get personal coaches, train with other big name players, try to improve where people say they are lacking, make performance tapes to send to teams for consideration, etc... That's pretty much the expectation for players who are trying to stay in the league. Kaep really hasn't done that, and people who are in the business of deciding if teams are interested in certain players have noted that. I believe you can be a pro athlete and activist. It's been done before. But I also believe that commitment to one can impede commitment to the other. That's the case for anything. If some feel that Kaep should have been dedicating the off season to preparing for this season, they aren't out of line to question his commitment to football when he seems to basically have spent the entired off season doing activism and philanthropy.

You keep saying this and have been shown irrefutable evidence contrary to the narrative you been pushing

Now he needs to make tapes and send them out to teams? Now he gotta practice with big name stars? Why? What other off season acquisition has done this?

He gotta jump thru hoops to get back into a league he shouldn't have been out of to begin with.

I'm not sure what you're talking about, but players do that shit all the time. Hell players who already have a spot do special summer sessions to get themselves right for the season. It's a common thing.

And no, he doesn't have to do anything he doesn't want to do. That's not my point. However, if anyone, not just a pro athlete knows they are competing for a job and that job is their priority, then they are going to do whatever they can to try to make that case for themselves hence the list of things I gave for Kaep.

No I honestly don't know what he's been up to, so maybe he has done some of that. All I was pointing out is that several coaches and people involved in the industry has said they doubt his commitment and haven't seen him do anything to suggest he wants to play. That's not me saying that. That's people in the industry. So if the industry is saying that and Kaep really wanted to play, would it really be unreasonable to suggest that makes a bid during the offseason to prove his worth? Again, almost ever player that's on the way out but wanted to stay in did that. T.O., Tebow, Vince Young, OchoCinco, the list goes on. Again, it's common.

 

[Recaptimus_Prime360]

I didn't even click "play".

 

[blackrain]

Not 1 black owner in the NFL and they operate like overseers

At least we've heard NBA coaches speak out against racism

There should be no questions as to how the nfl operates and who they pander to and who they dont value

niggas will say they need to feed they families.

here's the thing....

why niggas yatching with groups of hoes?

enjoy your money....once your family is good...an your invested..

why can't you make a stand?

the NFL has enough black players to shut it down...same with NBA.

if all the black athletes take off a week...just one....

shit would halt both sporting economies.

these niggas aint 9-5ers.

they got millions.

live humble to be able to make a stand when needed. niggas are a slave to their own success.

I am too but I have enough to walk away if shit gets crazy.

I forgot who said it but someone said that during a lockout spout, players was applying for loans because they lived check-to-check with their NFL check smdh. That is disgusting & I don't show any sympathy who get these big sports contracts & blow their money until they are nearly broke at the end of their career. People like that have a price tag on their soul & worship money. Like an old head once told me "If you pay some people good enough, then they'll forget that they are a man"

stolen and very true

howany people would get millions over night an leave they wife a go out to party an shit like a teenage arab

Shit just go look at that thread from when Ali died and his son came into some money and niggas was giving him props for leaving his wife and kids

 

[playmaker88]

I detest apologetic negroes

 

[Stew]

Shady needs to shut his Becky-chasing ass up

Aren't u a big fan of Shannon Sharpe? He's a Becky chaser also.

For the most part, being a Becky-chaser and a bad person aren't mutually exclusive but McCoy's hypocritical ways are not to be overlooked because the media will take McCoy's stance as the view of other black NFL players

My whole point of replying. Carry on.

 

[Chi Snow]

Maybe I'm missing something, but when has he said he doesn't want to play?

No one said he said that he didn't want to play. I said this in another topic and got a lot of Wack reactions for some reason even though its fact. When pro players in pretty much any sport are on the verge of being out of the league and they want to make a case for staying, they basically spend the whole off season working hard to make that case. They get personal coaches, train with other big name players, try to improve where people say they are lacking, make performance tapes to send to teams for consideration, etc... That's pretty much the expectation for players who are trying to stay in the league. Kaep really hasn't done that, and people who are in the business of deciding if teams are interested in certain players have noted that. I believe you can be a pro athlete and activist. It's been done before. But I also believe that commitment to one can impede commitment to the other. That's the case for anything. If some feel that Kaep should have been dedicating the off season to preparing for this season, they aren't out of line to question his commitment to football when he seems to basically have spent the entired off season doing activism and philanthropy.

You keep saying this and have been shown irrefutable evidence contrary to the narrative you been pushing

Now he needs to make tapes and send them out to teams? Now he gotta practice with big name stars? Why? What other off season acquisition has done this?

He gotta jump thru hoops to get back into a league he shouldn't have been out of to begin with.

I'm not sure what you're talking about, but players do that shit all the time. Hell players who already have a spot do special summer sessions to get themselves right for the season. It's a common thing.

And no, he doesn't have to do anything he doesn't want to do. That's not my point. However, if anyone, not just a pro athlete knows they are competing for a job and that job is their priority, then they are going to do whatever they can to try to make that case for themselves hence the list of things I gave for Kaep.

No I honestly don't know what he's been up to, so maybe he has done some of that. All I was pointing out is that several coaches and people involved in the industry has said they doubt his commitment and haven't seen him do anything to suggest he wants to play. That's not me saying that. That's people in the industry. So if the industry is saying that and Kaep really wanted to play, would it really be unreasonable to suggest that makes a bid during the offseason to prove his worth? Again, almost ever player that's on the way out but wanted to stay in did that. T.O., Tebow, Vince Young, OchoCinco, the list goes on. Again, it's common.

That's the issue you uninformed. He's been working out and he's back in football shape.

No he hasn't been to a training camp with a big name star but he doesn't have to

No he hasn't called the media in and made a circus outta his training, he doesn't have to.

No he hasn't called an old QB or QB coach to help him with his mechanics, he doesn't have to

The difference between the ppl you named and Kaep is, they all fucked up on or off the field and needed the good press and boot licking for another chance

Kaep hasn't done anything to have lost his first chance, on or off the field, so what exactly is he boot licking for?

His play last year, underweight AND coming off and injury would have been enough for to get signed but keep it funky. You and I both know him not being signed has nothing to do with his dedication to the game

The folks that said he ain't committed also say it's because he still protesting. Apparently you can't protest and play football, word to Ray Lewis, Jim Brown, Mike Vick, the list goes on

 

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https://twitter.com/mmfa/status/900441995969052672

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Maybe I'm missing something, but when has he said he doesn't want to play?

No one said he said that he didn't want to play. I said this in another topic and got a lot of Wack reactions for some reason even though its fact. When pro players in pretty much any sport are on the verge of being out of the league and they want to make a case for staying, they basically spend the whole off season working hard to make that case. They get personal coaches, train with other big name players, try to improve where people say they are lacking, make performance tapes to send to teams for consideration, etc... That's pretty much the expectation for players who are trying to stay in the league. Kaep really hasn't done that, and people who are in the business of deciding if teams are interested in certain players have noted that. I believe you can be a pro athlete and activist. It's been done before. But I also believe that commitment to one can impede commitment to the other. That's the case for anything. If some feel that Kaep should have been dedicating the off season to preparing for this season, they aren't out of line to question his commitment to football when he seems to basically have spent the entired off season doing activism and philanthropy.

You keep saying this and have been shown irrefutable evidence contrary to the narrative you been pushing

Now he needs to make tapes and send them out to teams? Now he gotta practice with big name stars? Why? What other off season acquisition has done this?

He gotta jump thru hoops to get back into a league he shouldn't have been out of to begin with.

I'm not sure what you're talking about, but players do that shit all the time. Hell players who already have a spot do special summer sessions to get themselves right for the season. It's a common thing.

And no, he doesn't have to do anything he doesn't want to do. That's not my point. However, if anyone, not just a pro athlete knows they are competing for a job and that job is their priority, then they are going to do whatever they can to try to make that case for themselves hence the list of things I gave for Kaep.

No I honestly don't know what he's been up to, so maybe he has done some of that. All I was pointing out is that several coaches and people involved in the industry has said they doubt his commitment and haven't seen him do anything to suggest he wants to play. That's not me saying that. That's people in the industry. So if the industry is saying that and Kaep really wanted to play, would it really be unreasonable to suggest that makes a bid during the offseason to prove his worth? Again, almost ever player that's on the way out but wanted to stay in did that. T.O., Tebow, Vince Young, OchoCinco, the list goes on. Again, it's common.

That's the issue you uninformed. He's been working out and he's back in football shape.

No he hasn't been to a training camp with a big name star but he doesn't have to

No he hasn't called the media in and made a circus outta his training, he doesn't have to.

No he hasn't called an old QB or QB coach to help him with his mechanics, he doesn't have to

The difference between the ppl you named and Kaep is, they all fucked up on or off the field and needed the good press and boot licking for another chance

Kaep hasn't done anything to have lost his first chance, on or off the field, so what exactly is he boot licking for?

His play last year, underweight AND coming off and injury would have been enough for to get signed but keep it funky. You and I both know him not being signed has nothing to do with his dedication to the game

The folks that said he ain't committed also say it's because he still protesting. Apparently you can't protest and play football, word to Ray Lewis, Jim Brown, Mike Vick, the list goes on

I don't know that the bold is true. I honestly don't think that's the biggest factor. I do believe he's being blackballed and I do believe that as a black QB he has to jump through hoops that white QBs of the same skill wouldn't have too. I'm just saying that it's not uncommon for players who want to make a case for themselves to go above and beyond in the offseason. I'm also pointing out that the people who question his commitment are doing so because by their own statements, they haven't seen the effort that they expect based on what other players do. I'm not saying anyone in this topic has to agree with that. I'm just saying I don't really think you can just dismiss that outright as a reason that some have chosen to pass on him.

 

[blackrain]

Maybe I'm missing something, but when has he said he doesn't want to play?

No one said he said that he didn't want to play. I said this in another topic and got a lot of Wack reactions for some reason even though its fact. When pro players in pretty much any sport are on the verge of being out of the league and they want to make a case for staying, they basically spend the whole off season working hard to make that case. They get personal coaches, train with other big name players, try to improve where people say they are lacking, make performance tapes to send to teams for consideration, etc... That's pretty much the expectation for players who are trying to stay in the league. Kaep really hasn't done that, and people who are in the business of deciding if teams are interested in certain players have noted that. I believe you can be a pro athlete and activist. It's been done before. But I also believe that commitment to one can impede commitment to the other. That's the case for anything. If some feel that Kaep should have been dedicating the off season to preparing for this season, they aren't out of line to question his commitment to football when he seems to basically have spent the entired off season doing activism and philanthropy.

You keep saying this and have been shown irrefutable evidence contrary to the narrative you been pushing

Now he needs to make tapes and send them out to teams? Now he gotta practice with big name stars? Why? What other off season acquisition has done this?

He gotta jump thru hoops to get back into a league he shouldn't have been out of to begin with.

I'm not sure what you're talking about, but players do that shit all the time. Hell players who already have a spot do special summer sessions to get themselves right for the season. It's a common thing.

And no, he doesn't have to do anything he doesn't want to do. That's not my point. However, if anyone, not just a pro athlete knows they are competing for a job and that job is their priority, then they are going to do whatever they can to try to make that case for themselves hence the list of things I gave for Kaep.

No I honestly don't know what he's been up to, so maybe he has done some of that. All I was pointing out is that several coaches and people involved in the industry has said they doubt his commitment and haven't seen him do anything to suggest he wants to play. That's not me saying that. That's people in the industry. So if the industry is saying that and Kaep really wanted to play, would it really be unreasonable to suggest that makes a bid during the offseason to prove his worth? Again, almost ever player that's on the way out but wanted to stay in did that. T.O., Tebow, Vince Young, OchoCinco, the list goes on. Again, it's common.

Shannon Sharpe said on tv just this morning that Kaep's agent told him they've reached out to several teams in regards to him coming in as a backup...so those people are lying their asses off

 

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https://www.mediaite.com/online/jes...ll-the-black-student-athletes-are-dominating/

Jesse Watters: ‘There’s No Racism in Football…All the Black Student Athletes Are Dominating’

As a host of players across the NFL continue their National Anthem protests against racial and social injustice, Jesse Watters stated his belief that there is no racism in football.

On Thursday’s edition of The Five, Watters said the following:

“[Y]ou know what? There’s no racism in football. All the black student athletes are dominating and they’re all going to play in the NFL — the good ones. And they’re making a million dollars.”

The remark was not the only one Watters made Thursday night which is sure to generate controversy. Earlier in the show, Watters made a comment implying that President Donald Trump is unstable — and that is a good thing.

“Stable, conventional politicians — they’ve gotten us into trillions and trillions of dollars into debt, open borders, and stagnant wages. That’s why Donald Trump was elected.”

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/tucker-...their-way-to-show-how-much-they-hate-america/

Tucker Carlson: NFL Players Going ‘Out of Their Way’ To Show How Much They Hate America

Fox News hosts have spent a lot of time lately letting us all know their thoughts on the NFL players — most of whom are black — protesting against racial injustice by refusing to stand for the national anthem before games. So in keeping with that tradition, Tucker Carlson once again addressed the issue on his program Thursday night.

Before getting to a segment in which he and Mediaite alum Joe Concha would complain about the media, Carlson first wanted to take a couple of shots at football players for protesting.

Highlighting a viral Facebook post from an Ohio Supreme Court judge blasting Cleveland Browns players for kneeling during the anthem, the Fox News host informed NFL fans that the players are telling them how unpatriotic they are.

“We’re only two weeks in the NFL preseason and many of the league’s richest players have gone out of their way to let you know how much they hate your country,” Carlson declared.

The conservative commentator then went on to completely dismiss the reason the Cleveland players didn’t stand during the anthem, saying it was “because racism or something.”

The following hour on Fox News, The Five’s Jesse Watters declared that there’s “no racism in football” because “all the black student-athletes are dominating” and they end up being rich.

https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/900885194609184772

 

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https://lawnewz.com/high-profile/oh...l-players-who-kneeled-during-national-anthem/

Ohio Supreme Court Justice Lets Loose On NFL Players Who Kneeled During National Anthem

A few days ago a multi-racial group of Cleveland Browns players kneeled during the national anthem before a preseason game against the New York Giants. This marked the first time a white NFL player joined the protest popularized by former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick.

The occasion was tailor-made for the history books, but one Ohio Supreme Court justice used the opportunity to chime in on the side of conservative reaction and political correctness.

Justice William O’Neill unleashed a furious rant on his personal Facebook page, accusing the 12 knee-taking Browns players of being “draft dodging millionaires” who disrespected the veterans “who earned them the right to be on that field.” He wrote, “Unfortunately my season ended last night … Shame on you all.”

Forced conscription into the United States military was ended in 1973–so it’s hard to understand what the justice means here.

Linebacker Christian Kirksey, who led the prayer, said:

“We did it out of respect. No disrespect for anyone, we just felt like it was the right time and the need to do it.”

Tight-end Seth DeValve, the first white player to join the racial justice protest is married to an African-American woman. He said, “I myself will be raising children that don’t look like me, and I want to do my part as well to do everything I can to raise them in a better environment than we have right now. So I wanted to take the opportunity with my teammates during the anthem to pray for our country and also to draw attention to the fact that we have work to do.”

O’Neill himself served in Vietnam. And, his Facebook tirade noted, one of his parents served in World War II while one of his children served in the Iraq War.

 

[Already Home_17]

Same dude who played with Vick fresh out of prison.. he never said Vick was a distraction

He explained the difference

Vick is a great talent, worth the distraction.

Kap is not.

players and coaches who were part the 49ers last year have stated that kap's protest wasn't a distraction

colin said he didn't plan on kneeling this season, so how will his team be distracted again?

 

[Trillfate]

Same dude who played with Vick fresh out of prison.. he never said Vick was a distraction

He explained the difference

Vick is a great talent, worth the distraction.

Kap is not.

Yea aight... Mccoy got neutered after he caught that case

 

[Trillfate]

Maybe I'm missing something, but when has he said he doesn't want to play?

No one said he said that he didn't want to play. I said this in another topic and got a lot of Wack reactions for some reason even though its fact. When pro players in pretty much any sport are on the verge of being out of the league and they want to make a case for staying, they basically spend the whole off season working hard to make that case. They get personal coaches, train with other big name players, try to improve where people say they are lacking, make performance tapes to send to teams for consideration, etc... That's pretty much the expectation for players who are trying to stay in the league. Kaep really hasn't done that, and people who are in the business of deciding if teams are interested in certain players have noted that. I believe you can be a pro athlete and activist. It's been done before. But I also believe that commitment to one can impede commitment to the other. That's the case for anything. If some feel that Kaep should have been dedicating the off season to preparing for this season, they aren't out of line to question his commitment to football when he seems to basically have spent the entired off season doing activism and philanthropy.

Bruh.

There's what 30, 32 teams? 3 QBs each

All 90+ of those QBs aint better than Kap, period. He doesnt have to do Extra shit to prove shit to anyone. Im pretty sure this offseason has been no different than previous ones training-wise.