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Shizlansky;c-9922168 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9922124 said:
ThaNubianGod;c-9921387 said:
stringer bell;c-9920463 said:
https://twitter.com/realclearsports/status/893551737239425024
https://twitter.com/alaboutsports/status/893540560606289921

This is dumb. Kap has a case over quite a few backups, but not Cutler. Cherry picking the last 4 starts is just making clickbait.

If these sports journalist were real with the actual issue like many 15+ years ago...they would bring up the fact that there's no black ownership. Back in the days when QBs like Moon had to go to the CFL just to even play, or a Randall Cunningham was dismissed, or when there was almost no Black coaches, the issue of black ownership used to come up. But these sports journalists only like to bring up weak topics they can get ratings from, they won't really rock any boats.

60% of the players are black...100% of the owners are white. Boycotts won't do shit, we have to start playing the game and take up ownerships spots to really end this shit. In fact, i think there's only one black owner in all the 4 major sports.

Yeah, we're about to get to where people who don't know anything about football are trying to talk shit. You can't just put Kap on any team. Let's be real about that. System matters and Kap doesn't have that traditional QB style that a lot of coaches want. I'm not saying Kap isn't being blackballed, but it is a fact that not ever team would want him to begin with.

If you look at a lot QBs and see their back ups they have different skill sets.

Except Mallett for Bmore he throws picks like Flacco. I know I'm a fan and I hear about it
 
The Lonious Monk;c-9922191 said:
dnyce215;c-9922153 said:
What offense would Kaep fit in? I seen he has been playing inside the pocket more, and uses his feet to extend the play. He has gotten better

Seattle probably would have been a good choice as a backup. Green Bay too because Aaron plays a little like that too, just at a higher level. I'm not sure where he could have gotten a starting job without the team having to make adjustments for him. I'm not saying there isn't a good place for him to go, just that I haven't paid enough attention to the league as a whole the past couple of years to have a good idea.

Shizlansky;c-9922168 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9922124 said:
ThaNubianGod;c-9921387 said:
stringer bell;c-9920463 said:
https://twitter.com/realclearsports/status/893551737239425024
https://twitter.com/alaboutsports/status/893540560606289921

This is dumb. Kap has a case over quite a few backups, but not Cutler. Cherry picking the last 4 starts is just making clickbait.

If these sports journalist were real with the actual issue like many 15+ years ago...they would bring up the fact that there's no black ownership. Back in the days when QBs like Moon had to go to the CFL just to even play, or a Randall Cunningham was dismissed, or when there was almost no Black coaches, the issue of black ownership used to come up. But these sports journalists only like to bring up weak topics they can get ratings from, they won't really rock any boats.

60% of the players are black...100% of the owners are white. Boycotts won't do shit, we have to start playing the game and take up ownerships spots to really end this shit. In fact, i think there's only one black owner in all the 4 major sports.

Yeah, we're about to get to where people who don't know anything about football are trying to talk shit. You can't just put Kap on any team. Let's be real about that. System matters and Kap doesn't have that traditional QB style that a lot of coaches want. I'm not saying Kap isn't being blackballed, but it is a fact that not ever team would want him to begin with.

If you look at a lot QBs and see their back ups they have different skill sets.

Yeah, but maximizing the potential of QBs like Kap is not something NFL coaches have been particularly good at.

Harbaugh got the best out of him so far and he is a college coach.

It Fitzpatrick can get a shot why can't Kaep, and Tebow had two other teams take a flier on him.
 
dnyce215;c-9922204 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9922191 said:
dnyce215;c-9922153 said:
What offense would Kaep fit in? I seen he has been playing inside the pocket more, and uses his feet to extend the play. He has gotten better

Seattle probably would have been a good choice as a backup. Green Bay too because Aaron plays a little like that too, just at a higher level. I'm not sure where he could have gotten a starting job without the team having to make adjustments for him. I'm not saying there isn't a good place for him to go, just that I haven't paid enough attention to the league as a whole the past couple of years to have a good idea.

Shizlansky;c-9922168 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9922124 said:
ThaNubianGod;c-9921387 said:
stringer bell;c-9920463 said:
https://twitter.com/realclearsports/status/893551737239425024
https://twitter.com/alaboutsports/status/893540560606289921

This is dumb. Kap has a case over quite a few backups, but not Cutler. Cherry picking the last 4 starts is just making clickbait.

If these sports journalist were real with the actual issue like many 15+ years ago...they would bring up the fact that there's no black ownership. Back in the days when QBs like Moon had to go to the CFL just to even play, or a Randall Cunningham was dismissed, or when there was almost no Black coaches, the issue of black ownership used to come up. But these sports journalists only like to bring up weak topics they can get ratings from, they won't really rock any boats.

60% of the players are black...100% of the owners are white. Boycotts won't do shit, we have to start playing the game and take up ownerships spots to really end this shit. In fact, i think there's only one black owner in all the 4 major sports.

Yeah, we're about to get to where people who don't know anything about football are trying to talk shit. You can't just put Kap on any team. Let's be real about that. System matters and Kap doesn't have that traditional QB style that a lot of coaches want. I'm not saying Kap isn't being blackballed, but it is a fact that not ever team would want him to begin with.

If you look at a lot QBs and see their back ups they have different skill sets.

Yeah, but maximizing the potential of QBs like Kap is not something NFL coaches have been particularly good at.

Harbaugh got the best out of him so far and he is a college coach.

It Fitzpatrick can get a shot why can't Kaep, and Tebow had two other teams take a flier on him.

I'm not saying Kap shouldn't get a shot. And sorry ass white QBs been getting handouts since before this thing with Kap became an issue. I'm saying that people are starting to go overboard and accuse everyone of being complicit in not picking Kap up when the truth is there are actual valid football reasons for why a team might pass on him.
 
Undefeatable;c-9921806 said:
aneed123;c-9918064 said:
I swear I'm a big sports and giants fan but I prolly won't watch much pro football cuz of this s hit...

Smh.

I am DEFINITELY not watching if he doesn't get a spot.

Hell, at this point, I may not watch even if he does.

I feel u.
 
The Lonious Monk;c-9922217 said:
dnyce215;c-9922204 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9922191 said:
dnyce215;c-9922153 said:
What offense would Kaep fit in? I seen he has been playing inside the pocket more, and uses his feet to extend the play. He has gotten better

Seattle probably would have been a good choice as a backup. Green Bay too because Aaron plays a little like that too, just at a higher level. I'm not sure where he could have gotten a starting job without the team having to make adjustments for him. I'm not saying there isn't a good place for him to go, just that I haven't paid enough attention to the league as a whole the past couple of years to have a good idea.

Shizlansky;c-9922168 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9922124 said:
ThaNubianGod;c-9921387 said:
stringer bell;c-9920463 said:
https://twitter.com/realclearsports/status/893551737239425024
https://twitter.com/alaboutsports/status/893540560606289921

This is dumb. Kap has a case over quite a few backups, but not Cutler. Cherry picking the last 4 starts is just making clickbait.

If these sports journalist were real with the actual issue like many 15+ years ago...they would bring up the fact that there's no black ownership. Back in the days when QBs like Moon had to go to the CFL just to even play, or a Randall Cunningham was dismissed, or when there was almost no Black coaches, the issue of black ownership used to come up. But these sports journalists only like to bring up weak topics they can get ratings from, they won't really rock any boats.

60% of the players are black...100% of the owners are white. Boycotts won't do shit, we have to start playing the game and take up ownerships spots to really end this shit. In fact, i think there's only one black owner in all the 4 major sports.

Yeah, we're about to get to where people who don't know anything about football are trying to talk shit. You can't just put Kap on any team. Let's be real about that. System matters and Kap doesn't have that traditional QB style that a lot of coaches want. I'm not saying Kap isn't being blackballed, but it is a fact that not ever team would want him to begin with.

If you look at a lot QBs and see their back ups they have different skill sets.

Yeah, but maximizing the potential of QBs like Kap is not something NFL coaches have been particularly good at.

Harbaugh got the best out of him so far and he is a college coach.

It Fitzpatrick can get a shot why can't Kaep, and Tebow had two other teams take a flier on him.

I'm not saying Kap shouldn't get a shot. And sorry ass white QBs been getting handouts since before this thing with Kap became an issue. I'm saying that people are starting to go overboard and accuse everyone of being complicit in not picking Kap up when the truth is there are actual valid football reasons for why a team might pass on him.

The Lonious Monk;c-9922217 said:
dnyce215;c-9922204 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9922191 said:
dnyce215;c-9922153 said:
What offense would Kaep fit in? I seen he has been playing inside the pocket more, and uses his feet to extend the play. He has gotten better

Seattle probably would have been a good choice as a backup. Green Bay too because Aaron plays a little like that too, just at a higher level. I'm not sure where he could have gotten a starting job without the team having to make adjustments for him. I'm not saying there isn't a good place for him to go, just that I haven't paid enough attention to the league as a whole the past couple of years to have a good idea.

Shizlansky;c-9922168 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9922124 said:
ThaNubianGod;c-9921387 said:
stringer bell;c-9920463 said:
https://twitter.com/realclearsports/status/893551737239425024
https://twitter.com/alaboutsports/status/893540560606289921

This is dumb. Kap has a case over quite a few backups, but not Cutler. Cherry picking the last 4 starts is just making clickbait.

If these sports journalist were real with the actual issue like many 15+ years ago...they would bring up the fact that there's no black ownership. Back in the days when QBs like Moon had to go to the CFL just to even play, or a Randall Cunningham was dismissed, or when there was almost no Black coaches, the issue of black ownership used to come up. But these sports journalists only like to bring up weak topics they can get ratings from, they won't really rock any boats.

60% of the players are black...100% of the owners are white. Boycotts won't do shit, we have to start playing the game and take up ownerships spots to really end this shit. In fact, i think there's only one black owner in all the 4 major sports.

Yeah, we're about to get to where people who don't know anything about football are trying to talk shit. You can't just put Kap on any team. Let's be real about that. System matters and Kap doesn't have that traditional QB style that a lot of coaches want. I'm not saying Kap isn't being blackballed, but it is a fact that not ever team would want him to begin with.

If you look at a lot QBs and see their back ups they have different skill sets.

Yeah, but maximizing the potential of QBs like Kap is not something NFL coaches have been particularly good at.

Harbaugh got the best out of him so far and he is a college coach.

It Fitzpatrick can get a shot why can't Kaep, and Tebow had two other teams take a flier on him.

I'm not saying Kap shouldn't get a shot. And sorry ass white QBs been getting handouts since before this thing with Kap became an issue. I'm saying that people are starting to go overboard and accuse everyone of being complicit in not picking Kap up when the truth is there are actual valid football reasons for why a team might pass on him.

What reasons? I don't see no reason why he isn't in there for try out basis.
 
The only reason they turned a blind eye to the Ray Lewis murder trial is because the victims were black, he did the racists a good deed in killing minorities.. And people want you believe the anger is about the disrespect of a flag. I challenge you to research the number of DUI's, Rapes, Murders, Child Abuse and Spouse Abuse that this country's military members have been convicted of, endangering the lives that they swore to that same flag to defend. A number of them still serve in the military, receiving paychecks and pensions from tax payer dollars from our government. A number of them have jobs in the same field. I would challenge those Anti-Keapernick individuals to take a moment to define the depths of that disrespect, since every single one of these criminal acts were a choice. To deny that there is a problem with racism makes you worse than the police officers that kill unarmed citizens, whether they be black, white or any other color. Its not about the flag, and the people that are pretending that it is, represent the side of this injustice that would much rather see things left as they are and as many minorities exterminated as possible.
 
Bruh I hear the samething all the time. The owners lose money is another way to deflect what Kaep stood for and is another way it is about race. I debated a person and she said it was on company time, but the NFL states you don't have to stand for the flag, it isn't encouraged to do so, but the racist claim it is on company time. They always bring the money diatribe into the Conversation. I was on the Ravens site and most of the posters claimed he sucks, but yet have no tape to backup their claims
 
dnyce215;c-9922240 said:
What reasons? I don't see no reason why he isn't in there for try out basis.

Dog, don't do this. We all agree Kap is getting a bum deal. There is no need to turn this into an exaggeration the other way. Kap isn't some supreme QB talent for whom a job was guaranteed with or without the controversy. Teams pass on trying out jobless QBs all the time for a variety of reasons. There are undoubtedly teams that are blackballing him, but to act every team would be working him out if not for the controversy is denying reality.

Let's not forget that dude was riding the bench BEFORE the controversy and plenty of people were doubting whether he could still play in the league at a high level. I believe he's good enough to at least get a shot, but him being good enough doesn't mean it would have happened even if he weren't being blackballed and everyone who follows the NFL knows that shit.

This is what I hate about topics like this. They start out real and eventually someone always comes along to hijack them and turn them into something they are not. Realistically, there are probably only like 5 teams that are passing on Kap because of the controversy. The others likely don't need him or don't believe he'd work for them anyway.
 
The Lonious Monk;c-9922299 said:
dnyce215;c-9922240 said:
What reasons? I don't see no reason why he isn't in there for try out basis.

Dog, don't do this. We all agree Kap is getting a bum deal. There is no need to turn this into an exaggeration the other way. Kap isn't some supreme QB talent for whom a job was guaranteed with or without the controversy. Teams pass on trying out jobless QBs all the time for a variety of reasons. There are undoubtedly teams that are blackballing him, but to act every team would be working him out if not for the controversy is denying reality.

Let's not forget that dude was riding the bench BEFORE the controversy and plenty of people were doubting whether he could still play in the league at a high level. I believe he's good enough to at least get a shot, but him being good enough doesn't mean it would have happened even if he weren't being blackballed and everyone who follows the NFL knows that shit.

This is what I hate about topics like this. They start out real and eventually someone always comes along to hijack them and turn them into something they are not. Realistically, there are probably only like 5 teams that are passing on Kap because of the controversy. The others likely don't need him or don't believe he'd work for them anyway.

The Lonious Monk;c-9922299 said:
dnyce215;c-9922240 said:
What reasons? I don't see no reason why he isn't in there for try out basis.

Dog, don't do this. We all agree Kap is getting a bum deal. There is no need to turn this into an exaggeration the other way. Kap isn't some supreme QB talent for whom a job was guaranteed with or without the controversy. Teams pass on trying out jobless QBs all the time for a variety of reasons. There are undoubtedly teams that are blackballing him, but to act every team would be working him out if not for the controversy is denying reality.

Let's not forget that dude was riding the bench BEFORE the controversy and plenty of people were doubting whether he could still play in the league at a high level. I believe he's good enough to at least get a shot, but him being good enough doesn't mean it would have happened even if he weren't being blackballed and everyone who follows the NFL knows that shit.

This is what I hate about topics like this. They start out real and eventually someone always comes along to hijack them and turn them into something they are not. Realistically, there are probably only like 5 teams that are passing on Kap because of the controversy. The others likely don't need him or don't believe he'd work for them anyway.

If you know he is being blackballed it isn't a discussion then, he proved he can play. Maybe not the same Kaep he was before, he can perform at the league level. 16-4 TD to Interception, that isn't bad in 12 games. He was benched but got his job back in the Buffalo game. Kaep had three surgeries I believe before the OTA last year and wasn't doing much in preseason after coming off surgery.
 
stringer bell;c-9922195 said:
https://twitter.com/sinow/status/893696831611383808

I always hated when ppl used that as an excuse, and knew it was bullshit, and the thing bout the election, yea i could see it when there was debates but what about all the other times it wasnt like they were weekly, me personally i didnt watch as much because there were so many trash teams so it resulted in shitty matchups, not tryna watch two trash teams play each other
 
dnyce215;c-9922116 said:
The alarming trend here is the owners won't be scared because they will always be people willing to watch the NFL, but in all the product has been bad

But they are, or pretending to be because now its "he'll effect our money" cause they think ppl will stop going to games and shit if they sign him which is bs and even if some did it wont be enough to hurt they pockets, that narrative is a huge overexaggeration because plenty of fans support him and or couldnt care less either way, i mean dude still has a top selling jersey so that right there should tell ppl that hes still supported
 
Shizlansky;c-9922168 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9922124 said:
ThaNubianGod;c-9921387 said:
stringer bell;c-9920463 said:
https://twitter.com/realclearsports/status/893551737239425024
https://twitter.com/alaboutsports/status/893540560606289921

This is dumb. Kap has a case over quite a few backups, but not Cutler. Cherry picking the last 4 starts is just making clickbait.

If these sports journalist were real with the actual issue like many 15+ years ago...they would bring up the fact that there's no black ownership. Back in the days when QBs like Moon had to go to the CFL just to even play, or a Randall Cunningham was dismissed, or when there was almost no Black coaches, the issue of black ownership used to come up. But these sports journalists only like to bring up weak topics they can get ratings from, they won't really rock any boats.

60% of the players are black...100% of the owners are white. Boycotts won't do shit, we have to start playing the game and take up ownerships spots to really end this shit. In fact, i think there's only one black owner in all the 4 major sports.

Yeah, we're about to get to where people who don't know anything about football are trying to talk shit. You can't just put Kap on any team. Let's be real about that. System matters and Kap doesn't have that traditional QB style that a lot of coaches want. I'm not saying Kap isn't being blackballed, but it is a fact that not ever team would want him to begin with.

If you look at a lot QBs and see their back ups they have different skill sets.

Had a. Cac try to tell me the ravens can't fit him becuz flacco and him are 2 different QBs... I was like that didn't stop them when Tyrod Taylor was the back up for 4 years
 
dnyce215;c-9922309 said:
If you know he is being blackballed it isn't a discussion then, he proved he can play. Maybe not the same Kaep he was before, he can perform at the league level. 16-4 TD to Interception, that isn't bad in 12 games. He was benched but got his job back in the Buffalo game. Kaep had three surgeries I believe before the OTA last year and wasn't doing much in preseason after coming off surgery.

I'm not arguing that. Again, I believe Kap is getting a bad deal. If he wants to play, he's good enough to get a shot from someone. What I was taking issue with is this idea that every team that passes on him is doing so solely because of the controversy. That's taking it too far. Controversy or no controversy, I'd say the majority of teams in the league wouldn't be looking to sign Kap as a starting QB this year. That's just a fact. Some teams already have a starter. Some teams already have a certain kind of player they want as the starter. As a back-up, there would probably be more open to signing him, and that's probably where the black balling comes in.
 
Mister B.;c-9923323 said:
So, slop-ass Cutler gets a run in MI-Yay-Yo.

Figures.

They could have gave me 500, 000 to go out there and throw picks. Cutler is trash. Kaep does not throw INTs like he does. A system is irrelevant when the QB throws to the other team. $10 mil for him to throw to the wrong jerseys? Wow.
 
Don't let them racists fool you. They wouldn't have boycott them. If Kaep would've went to the Ravens then they would've still been going to the games, just to talk crazy
 
VulcanRaven;c-9923411 said:
Mister B.;c-9923323 said:
So, slop-ass Cutler gets a run in MI-Yay-Yo.

Figures.

They could have gave me 500, 000 to go out there and throw picks. Cutler is trash. Kaep does not throw INTs like he does. A system is irrelevant when the QB throws to the other team. $10 mil for him to throw to the wrong jerseys? Wow.

@"Cutler 26 INT's LOL!"
 

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