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Charles Barkley, Shaquille O’Neal, Kenny Smith discuss how they’d protest if they were current NBA players

On Tuesday, the members of TNT’s Inside The NBA pregame show held a season opening conference call with the media. After being asked about how they think player protests and activism among players will be handled on and off the court this season, Awful Announcing posed an interesting question to former players Charles Barkley, Kenny Smith, and Shaquille O’Neal:

If you were players in today’s NBA, how would you handle being active on social issues that are at the forefront of today’s sporting landscape?

Straight off the bat, Barkley and O’Neal said they would both stand for the National Anthem, but Barkley said this issue needs to be about more than that.

“What are we actually doing for our community? That’s all I really care about,” Barkley said. “Man, we gotta start putting our money where our mouth is.”

Barkley suggested he would give back to his community and help more kids go to college rather than just sit around and talk about being socially active. He also said the media is handling this issue poorly, in part because they care too much about who’s standing and who is not for the Anthem.

“I’m just so sick of the media hijacking this conversation because they need something to talk about every day,” Barkley said. “Man, let’s start doing. Stop talking.”

On kneeling during the National Anthem, O’Neal said that many people are just going to tune you out solely because they believe it’s disrespectful to the flag.

“When you do it at a moment during the National Anthem— and I know people say it’s not about the flag, and I believe that it’s not about the flag— but when you do it in that moment, there’s a large majority of people that say you are disrespecting the flag and they won’t even listen to your conversation,” O’Neal said.

The only way to go about protesting, the trio of former players agreed, was in a peaceful and respectful way.

“When you give people a choice to listen or not to listen, they’re always going to go to the excuse,” O’Neal said, stressing that many people who criticize National Anthem kneelers would immediately tune out or discount an opinion or cause because of this. “‘If you disrespect the flag, I’m not gonna listen to you.’”

O’Neal “would try to do it much bigger” by holding large press conferences, like past sports icons who were successful at social activism.

“When I always look at the photos of Jim Brown, Muhammad Ali, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, they held a press conference and they made their case known. I would do it like that,” O’Neal said. “Because when you do it like that, respectfully, people have no choice but to listen.”

Smith took a more analytical and cerebral approach to the question, saying that the first thing he would do as an NBA player today would be to educate himself on all the important issues of the day. Some of those issues, Smith said, he didn’t need to be educated on, having grown up in the inner cities of Queens, New York and knowing those life lessons first hand.

“The reality is that there’s an issue in the inner cities of America that is not being addressed,” Smith said, beginning an honest and frank discussion of why he would seriously consider openly protesting if he were an NBA player today. This issue won’t be a problem solved by just throwing money at it, he said.

“It’s a collective thought that’s perpetuated by a certain group of people that won’t allow any amount of finances to change or allow any amount of finances to make change,” Smith said. “So to me, it’s about changing the mindset, or acknowledging that there’s a mindset of people that are prejudicial towards minorities in America.”

Making it known and publicized that this prejudicial mindset exists, Smith said, is the root of why these player protests are taking place altogether, and why some players feel it’s necessary to kneel for the National Anthem, or lock arms, or raise their fists, or wear sneakers on national television that say “Equality,” like LeBron James did on Tuesday night.

“Until that is consistently addressed, no matter how much money you throw at it, it doesn’t matter,” Smith said. “And it is about bringing awareness to it in any shape, form or fashion, as long as it’s peaceful. So that’s what I feel.”

Kenny once again proves he’s the only real one on that show...
 
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Fox Business’ Trish Regan Erupts at Guest Over NFL Anthem Debate: ‘That’s a Bunch of Baloney!’

Things got very heated during a Fox News panel about the ongoing NFL anthem controversy.

Horace Cooper — co-chair of Project 21, a network of black conservatives — said that NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, who said that players “should” stand during the National Anthem, made an “incomplete pass” on the issue. In Cooper’s view, the American people “made it very clear” that they “reject” the kneeling and now the trend of falling support for the NFL will continue.

Meanwhile, civil rights attorney Leo Terrell disagreed, pointing to people who “get a beer” from the kitchen or “run and get a hot dog” during the Anthem. Fox News guest host Trish Regan dismissed Terrell’s argument because these players “are working for a team owner” who “ultimately has the right” to decide whether or not to allow kneeling.

“Is Roger Goodell so afraid of those players?” Regan asked. “Are the team owners so afraid of those players walking off the field that they are allowing them to basically thumb their nose at the American public?”

Cooper responded by saying that “a few bad eggs” may “ruin a multi-billion dollar industry.”

“They can’t even give us a specific and detailed outline of their critique,” Cooper elaborated. “If they want to have that, they can do it on their time.”

Terrell then accused President Donald Trump of “hijacking” this issue to make it about patriotism and reiterated the many people that “go to the kitchen” during the anthem.

“That’s a bunch of baloney!” Regan said. “I’ll tell you one thing, every single time I hear the national anthem anyway — every single time I sing the national anthem — I get goosebumps and I feel very privileged and very honored to have grown up in this country with all the opportunities I have had. And you know what? You’re pretty darn lucky if you’re out there collecting a pretty nice paycheck working for the NFL. Shouldn’t you honor that opportunity?”

“You know what makes this country great?” Terrell asked. “People have the right to have a different opinion… Is there racial injustice in this country?”

“Well, why is that an issue that suddenly is creeping into football?” Regan shot back.

She also slammed Goodell and the NFL for their “inconsistencies” regarding domestic violence and concussions.

“If Roger Goodell and the NFL and the team owners actually cared about their players, they would have been out in front of all these issues,” Regan continued. “They were nowhere to be found. You know why? It didn’t matter economically… A paycheck does matter and ultimately is probably going to be what decides this when ratings keep going down.”

Another privileged saltine woman telling black folks how they should protest...
 
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Dems Demand Pence Refund Taxpayers For ‘Costly Publicity Stunt’ At NFL Game

A group of Democratic representatives asked Vice President Mike Pence to repay taxpayers for a trip he took to an Indianapolis Colts game that he walked out of when players knelt for the national anthem, a move that President Trump essentially confirmed was a preplanned stunt.

Spearheaded by Reps. Ruben Gallego (D-AZ) and Ted Lieu (D-CA), the Democrats claim the “costly publicity stunt” was “employed by the Trump-Pence reelection campaign for the purpose of soliciting donations” because the campaign quickly used the scene to rally its base.

Additionally, members of Pence’s press pool were advised to stay in their cars and were told there might be an “early departure,” the letter said.

“This strongly suggests that your truncated visit was not a spontaneous act of protest — as you have sought to portray it — but was instead a premeditated act conducted solely for the purpose of generating publicity. In fact, President Trump confirmed as much when he posted on Twitter that he told you beforehand to stage this protest if any players kneeled,” according to the letter, which was signed by Gallego, Lieu, as well as Reps. Pramila Jayapal (D-WA), Jamie Raskin (D-MD) and Brendan Boyle (D-PA).

Requesting documents about his travel and communications between Pence and the Trump-Pence campaign, the members of Congress said the American people “deserve to know” how many taxpayer dollars were spent on the trip and whether the campaign knew about it ahead of time, “at the very least.”

But, in order to “preserve the integrity” of Pence’s office, the Democrats also urged Pence to reimburse the Department of the Treasury for the full cost of the trip.

“The health of the democracy requires that taxpayer funding is not used for campaign purposes,” they wrote. “Again, given the appearance of serious impropriety in this matter, we request that you instruct the Trump-Pence campaign to immediately reimburse the Treasury for the full cost of your wasteful, unnecessary trip to Indianapolis.”

Pence’s spokesperson did not immediately respond to TPM’s requests for comment.
 
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Trump launches national anthem petition in latest swipe at NFL

President Trump is urging supporters to sign a petition declaring that they believe in standing for the national anthem — his latest effort to put pressure on the NFL over players who kneel in protest during the anthem.

"The President has asked for a list of supporters who stand for the National Anthem. Add your name below to show your patriotism and support," says the petition by the Trump Make America Great Again Committee, a fundraising group.

The petition was also promoted by the Republican National Committee on Twitter and its website. It does not say how many signatures it has garnered so far.

The petition came days after NFL team owners, executives and players met in New York, where they decided that the league would not implement a rule forcing players to stand for "The Star-Spangled Banner."

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said after the meeting that, while players are encouraged to stand for the anthem, there would be no formal rule making it mandatory for them to do so.

Goodell said he understood the concerns of the players — who are seeking to draw attention to racial injustice and police brutality — but he hopes the league can bring the total number of protesters down to zero.

The decision came amid a prolonged feud between Trump and the NFL that began last month when he called on football teams to fire players who took a knee. The demonstrations began last year with former San Francisco quarterback Colin Kaepernick, who has been unable to find a new team after leaving the 49ers.

The president has called the protests disrespectful, and has urged supporters to walk out of games when players kneel during the anthem. Vice President Pence did so at an Indianapolis Colts game this month — a move that Trump said was at his urging.

After the NFL's decision not to implement a rule on the matter, Trump criticized the league once again in a pair of tweets, saying that the refusal was "too much talk, not enough action."

"The NFL has decided that it will not force players to stand for the playing of our National Anthem," he wrote. "Total disrespect for our great country!"
 
Singer takes a knee at Nets game during anthem....

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A few moments later, the videoboard showed Kid Rock, who was sitting courtside, and who got booed where Eminem got cheered.

The difference didn’t go unnoticed by Van Gundy, who noted after the game Eminem’s appearance — in front of NBA commissioner Adam Silver, who was there to pay homage to the Pistons’ new home — said plenty.

”Without making a statement, they were able to make a statement,” said Van Gundy.

Kid Confederate got his Anti-Kap ass booed in Detroit...
 
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Jerry Jones Sat Through the National Anthem With Elizabeth Taylor During His First Home Game as Owner of the Cowboys

Jerry Jones started the season with the hollow look-at-me gesture of kneeling with the entire Dallas Cowboys team before the playing of the National Anthem. Since then he had multiple phone calls with Donald Trump and has decided that any player who dare exercise his Constitutional right to protest would be punished. Disrespecting the flag in Dallas will not be tolerated under any circumstances. Unless you’re chatting with Elizabeth Taylor

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That is from a 1989 letter to the editor in the Star-Telegram. It resurfaced last August when Colin Kaepernick’s kneeling originally became a story. This disrespectful, letter-inspiring act likely took place during Jerry Jones’ first home game as Cowboys owner so you can forgive him if he didn’t know what he was supposed to do during the Anthem.

Still, the idea that Jerry Jones, the owner of America’s Team, would ever disrespect the flag is confounding. It was just two weeks ago that he was fielding calls from Donald Trump about the issue and would bench any player who disrespects the flag. What if a celebrity is on the sideline? Is that a reasonable exception for Cowboys players? Or is this simply more proof that the NFL and it’s owners don’t actually care about respecting the flag?

Note: Jerry Jones first regular season game as owner of the Cowboys was on the road. The article originally said this happened during his first game as owner.
 
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David Irving to test Jerry Jones' national anthem policy: 'I have made a call'

Irving plans to demonstrate in some way as a protest against police brutality and racial injustice

Dallas Cowboys defensive lineman David Irving appears to be getting ready to test Jerry Jones' national anthem policy.

"I have made a call," Irving said, per the Forth Worth Star-Telegram. "You'll just have to wait till Sunday."

Irving raised his fist in a display of protest against policy brutality and racial injustice after the national anthem was played prior to the Cowboys' Week 5 game, and apparently plans to demonstrate in some way again this Sunday when the Cowboys take on the 49ers. He said he received favorable feedback from fans after his Week 5 fist-raising, despite the fact that many Cowboys fans appear to be against demonstrations or protests before, during, or after the national anthem.

"I've had way more support," Irving said. "I'm not disrespecting the flag. I really haven't gotten anything negative. It's all positive."

That could change in the future, because ahead of the Cowboys' Week 6 bye, Jerry Jones said that any player that disrespects the flag will not play. Jerry demurred on whether raising a fist at the end of the anthem -- as Irving (and Damontre Moore) did in Week 5 -- qualifies as disrespect, but said, "If there is anything disrespecting the flag, then we will not play," per the Dallas Morning News. "Period. We're going to respect the flag and I'm going to create the perception of it."

Jones now believes -- having been told by the president that it was the case -- that there is actually a rule requiring players to stand for the national anthem. However, NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy told FactCheck.org that players are not required to stand for the anthem. That fact was reinforced this week when owners and players met to discuss the national anthem policy, player protests, and several other social issues and came away not having changed anything regarding the lack of a requirement to stand during the anthem, but instead endorsing criminal justice legislation and deciding to finance an activism bootcamp.

Irving's said his demonstration at the end of the anthem is neither about disrespect for the flag nor about the comments made by the president that NFL teams should "fire" any "sons of b-" that kneel during the anthem, but rather about police brutality and racism. "Before Trump was here we've been having these problems," Irving said.

Asked by reporters whether he expects negative feedback after whatever happens on Sunday, Irving said, in keeping with other players that have protested or otherwise demonstrated before, during or after the anthem, "I hope not since it's not about the flag in the first place, you know?"

How Jones reacts to whatever Irving does will be interesting to watch. He made a point of saying that any player, even Dak Prescott or Ezekiel Elliott, would not be allowed to play if they violated his policy on the anthem. (It's difficult to say what he considers a violation. It was never made specific, but it can be assumed given the general attitudes around the subject, that kneeling or sitting during the anthem probably qualifies.)

Cowboys players were reportedly angered by Jones' public hard-line stance, and the team had a meeting with Jones about it during the bye week. They mostly declined to talk about what was said during the meeting, but Irving apparently emerged determined to demonstrate in some fashion this weekend.

Irving is an incredibly important player for the Cowboys. The clear weakness of their team is the pass rush, and though DeMarcus Lawrence has been an absolute monster this season, Irving was clearly the team's best defensive lineman last season, when Lawrence was alternately injured and ineffective.

We know Jones would do anything to win, but we also know he would do anything to project the appearance of total control. Depending on what Irving's specific actions are on Sunday, those two desires could come into conflict with one another.
 
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Sources: Anthem issue delays Goodell contract

The debate over NFL player protests during the national anthem has become so big within the league that it has delayed the completion of commissioner Roger Goodell's contract extension, league sources told ESPN.

Goodell's deal is still expected to be completed and has been papered, sources told ESPN, but the process has been slowed while the overwhelming majority of the NFL's attention has been diverted to handling the anthem issue, which has affected TV ratings, merchandise sales and the country's feelings about football.

Had the issue not existed, Goodell's contract might have been completed at last week's owners meeting in New York, sources said. However, because the issue has become so critical to the league, the NFL's compensation committee spent about only 20 minutes Wednesday discussing Goodell's extension, with Atlanta Falcons owner Arthur Blank leading those talks, sources told ESPN.

The committee still insists Goodell's deal will be completed, but there is other business that currently is more pressing.

"The anthem issue has overridden everything -- and I do mean everything," one source told ESPN.

The focus on the issue has overshadowed other league business as well.

At last week's meetings, owners discussed making a dramatic shift from papered game tickets to all-digital ticketing, which will be in place for the 2018 season, sources told ESPN. The NFL also announced the 2018 draft would be held in Dallas, which will host the first draft held inside a stadium. Neither topic received as much attention as the anthem issue.
 
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Jerry Jones Sat Through the National Anthem With Elizabeth Taylor During His First Home Game as Owner of the Cowboys

Jerry Jones started the season with the hollow look-at-me gesture of kneeling with the entire Dallas Cowboys team before the playing of the National Anthem. Since then he had multiple phone calls with Donald Trump and has decided that any player who dare exercise his Constitutional right to protest would be punished. Disrespecting the flag in Dallas will not be tolerated under any circumstances. Unless you’re chatting with Elizabeth Taylor

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Wonder to see if he actually goes thru on this

He raised a fist............after he stood with his hand over his heart during the entire national anthem.

These pussies need to stop saying what they gone do and then pull shit like this. No one expects you to protest but stop making a mockery of it.
 
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JJ_Evans;c-10055141 said:
Chi Snow;c-10053603 said:
Wonder to see if he actually goes thru on this

He raised a fist............after he stood with his hand over his heart during the entire national anthem.

These pussies need to stop saying what they gone do and then pull shit like this. No one expects you to protest but stop making a mockery of it.

Meanwhile we saw real black men on the sideline directly across from the Jerry Jones slaves........
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Kaep Grievance update:

Colin Kaepernick's collusion grievance against the NFL is already starting to move forward, sources said, with the sides beginning to exchange communications about how the initial stages of the process should unfold.

During this discovery stage, with requests for evidence made, Kaepnerick's legal team plans to ask the System Arbitrator hearing the case to compel all owners and high-ranking officials to turn over cell and email correspondence, according to a source with knowledge of the situation, though ultimately the process generally results in a smaller sample granted. Currently, there is a "litigation hold" in place regarding the electronic communication of NFL teams, according to the source, with team officials prohibited from expunging any relevant data.

While getting access to every owner's phone records seems unlikely to legal experts, Kaepernick's case would have a particular need to inquire about certain teams that had direct communication with the quarterback, and teams that have suffered injuries at the quarterback position and worked out other players, and those teams whose owners have been in direct contact with President Trump. As previously reported, Trump's influence and directives regarding Kaepernick and protesting players will be a part of Kaepernick's collusion argument, with the NFL's collusion rules in the collective bargaining agreement stipulating that "implied" collusion can take place between an agent outside of the league and member clubs and/or the NFL league office.

The formal discovery requests will include not just owners, but also top executives for the clubs involved. The Seahawks and Ravens (whose football staff had direct talks with Kaepernick), as well as the Titans and Packers (who lost starting quarterbacks to injury) and the Patriots and Cowboys (whose owners have been seen speaking to Trump in person or who have talked publicly about conversations with Trump regarding player protests) all would be of particular import to the case.

This is an unprecedented situation, with an individual NFL player bringing this sort of case against the league, but many of the mechanics of the process, under the CBA, are similar to what we have seen in the past with players like Tom Brady or coaches like Sean Payton requested to turn over various forms of electronic communication in the "Deflategate" or "Bountygate" cases. The sides will have to agree on a third-party that specializes in securely retrieving electronic communications to handle the process of harvesting the data that alone could take some time and while there is no set timetable for how long such a discovery process will take, some legal experts suggested three-to-four weeks might apply. Kaepernick's team will ask the process to move in a timely manner.

The NFL has reacted negatively to players, coaches and others who it believes have not been totally forthcoming in releasing such data and turning over phones in past discipline cases. Kaepernick's legal team would likely request the ability to search the phones of some top league office staff as well for key terms ("Kaepernick," "blackballed," "workout," etc.) as part of their search for evidence that would have to convince System Arbitrator Stephen Burbank that at least two teams, or a team and the league office, conspired to deny Kaepernick an opportunity to work-out for or gain employment from an NFL club.
 
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Jerry Jones says NFL 'suffering' from protests

SANTA CLARA, Calif. -- Dallas Cowboys owner and general manager Jerry Jones' concerns about the protests during the national anthem are not just about what is good for his team but what is good for the NFL.

"There is no question the league is suffering negative effects from these protests," Jones said.

Two weeks ago Jones said if any of his players "disrespect the flag," during the national anthem that they would be benched. At a league meeting in New York, owners and players had open dialogue about the protests but no change was made to the league's policy that does not mandate players to stand during the anthem.

The Cowboys have not had a player protest during the national anthem. On Sunday, defensive end David Irving briefly raised his fist at the end of the anthem, like he had Oct. 8 against the Green Bay Packers.

"I know that he was very deliberate during the anthem and of course that's the issue with me," Jones said after the Cowboys' 40-10 win over the San Francisco 49ers. "I'm very proud of the way they all handled themselves."

Irving stood during the anthem with a fist over his heart. He quickly raised his fist at the end. Damontre Moore, who raised his fist at the end of the anthem against the Packers as well, did not raise his fist Sunday. Instead he gave a quick salute.

Irving said, "I wouldn't want to disrespect the anthem; wait until it's over."

"I've been asked that for the past three weeks, my statement is my statement," Irving said. "That was a statement, nothing really to say about it. If you are in a position I am in or everyone else in this locker room is, you have to watch what you say, play things as smart as you can. I'm not going to speak on this, certain things are better off left unsaid."

The Niners had seven players kneel during the anthem. Jones said he was aware of the protests San Francisco have had for more than a year, but he was not concerned with what the 49ers did.

"My interests is how the Cowboys are conducting themselves as players both on and off, again I just can't tell you how proud I am of the players," Jones said.


Jones' interests also focus on the success of the NFL. He said he has heard from sponsors about the protests.

"Our ability to be substantive is based on having a strong NFL, a league that people are really interested in and want to watch and want to watch the games," Jones said. "At all times, if I am anything, I am first and foremost a proponent of making the NFL strong. Making us have as many people watching the game as we can and watching in light of what we are doing and that's playing football. If all this makes you stronger to represent messages, let's don't do it in a way that tears down the strength of the NFL."

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