Colin Kaepernick refuses “to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses Black people”...

[thegreatunknown]

Many of these "celebrity attorneys" are some of the best at what they do. Regardless of their image, there's a reason that they are hired by wealthy people to represent them in court...they know how to try a case. Skips dismissal is based on ignorance.

They know the Fed rules of evidence cold, know how to maneuver through civil or criminal procedure, are good at telling a story to a jury, and have unlimited resources.

Remember, many people said Johnnie Cochran was simply a "celebrity attorney" and he's one the greatest defense attorneys to ever set foot in a courtroom..

 

[deadeye]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BaT3RcUjXJZ/?taken-by=realpeterock

@"Max."

*BODYBAG*

 

[Inglewood_B]

Many of these "celebrity attorneys" are some of the best at what they do. Regardless of their image, there's a reason that they are hired by wealthy people to represent them in court...they know how to try a case. Skips dismissal is based on ignorance.

They know the Fed rules of evidence cold, know how to maneuver through civil or criminal procedure, are good at telling a story to a jury, and have unlimited resources.

Remember, many people said Johnnie Cochran was simply a "celebrity attorney" and he's one the greatest defense attorneys to ever set foot in a courtroom..

"If you hire Johnnie, you look guilty."

"Yeah... but you go home. You wanna look innocent in prison? I'd rather look guilty at the mall."

 

[playmaker88]

He gave the league ample time to get right.. they werent going to sign him anyway... hope he is successful

 

[blackrain]

Many of these "celebrity attorneys" are some of the best at what they do. Regardless of their image, there's a reason that they are hired by wealthy people to represent them in court...they know how to try a case. Skips dismissal is based on ignorance.

They know the Fed rules of evidence cold, know how to maneuver through civil or criminal procedure, are good at telling a story to a jury, and have unlimited resources.

Remember, many people said Johnnie Cochran was simply a "celebrity attorney" and he's one the greatest defense attorneys to ever set foot in a courtroom..

They only have resources as far as their client is willing or able to pay. That's far from unlimited. And its the perception that even if you get off you did it due to legal maneuvering not actual innocence...and we all know that being guilty in a court of law and guilty in court of public opinion are very different especially when your livelihood is dependent on public opinion. Look at OJ or R.Kelly. both found innocent but how many people actually think they didn't commit the crimes they're accused of?

Shit I hope that Kaep can find just the one piece of evidence needed to prove a case of collusion but you also have to have realistic expectations of the ability to actually prove it. And he's essentially doing the legal version of pulling up from half court...

 

[thegreatunknown]

Many of these "celebrity attorneys" are some of the best at what they do. Regardless of their image, there's a reason that they are hired by wealthy people to represent them in court...they know how to try a case. Skips dismissal is based on ignorance.

They know the Fed rules of evidence cold, know how to maneuver through civil or criminal procedure, are good at telling a story to a jury, and have unlimited resources.

Remember, many people said Johnnie Cochran was simply a "celebrity attorney" and he's one the greatest defense attorneys to ever set foot in a courtroom..

They only have resources as far as their client is willing or able to pay. That's far from unlimited. And its the perception that even if you get off you did it due to legal maneuvering not actual innocence...and we all know that being guilty in a court of law and guilty in court of public opinion are very different especially when your livelihood is dependent on public opinion. Look at OJ or R.Kelly. both found innocent but how many people actually think they didn't commit the crimes they're accused of?

Shit I hope that Kaep can find just the one piece of evidence needed to prove a case of collusion but you also have to have realistic expectations of the ability to actually prove it. And he's essentially doing the legal version of pulling up from half court...

Fair point about the resources, but I meant in that context of what the client could pay. The "celebrity" firms have advantages other firms don't, whether its the combined experience of the attorneys, relationships with private investigators or the ability to delegate certain tasks to associates.

I didn't evaluate the likelihood of Kap's success because at this point on a grievance has been filed, not a lawsuit and besides whats been released through the media, I have no clue of what info he has to prove collusion in a court of law. Could be a hail mary, probably is. But it doesn't detract from my original statement about the validity of Skip Bayless' comments about "celebrity attorneys"...

 

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http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/10/after_trump_closed_white_house_doors_to_nba_champi.html

Knicks owner Dolan wrote Trump $125K check after he closed White House to NBA champs

WASHINGTON -- Five days after President Donald Trump told the National Basketball Association champion Golden State Warriors they weren't welcome at the White House, the owner of the New York Knicks sent a $125,000 check to help his re-election efforts.

James Dolan, executive chairman of Madison Square Garden Corp., contributed the money to the joint fundraising committee set up by Trump and the Republican National Committee, Federal Election Commission filings show.

His check was dated Sept. 28. That same week, on Sept. 23, Trump disinvited the Warriors from the traditional White House visit afforded most championship sports teams after all-star guard Stephen Curry said he wouldn't accompany the team.

"This is indeed how the game is played," said Craig Holman of Public Citizen, a Washington-based advocacy group that favors stronger campaign finance laws. "Clearly, the New York Knicks owner wants to make sure the Knicks are not dissed by the president, who has a tendency to do that type of thing."

Dolan also contributed to $300,000 to the joint fundraising committee last year, FEC records show.

"Mr. Dolan is a long-time friend and supporter of President Trump," Knicks spokesman Jonathan Supranowitz said. "His contribution is a matter of public record, and was made by Mr. Dolan as a private citizen."

Trump's criticism of the Warriors came while simultaneously criticizing National Football League players for protesting police brutality against minority communities by kneeling during the national anthem.

 

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https://www.dallasnews.com/news/soc...jones-forplantation-politics-anthem-ultimatum

Dallas megachurch pastor blasts Jerry Jones for 'plantation politics' after anthem ultimatum

The controversy over Jerry Jones' threat that Dallas Cowboys who kneel during the national anthem will be benched is not dying down.

Frederick D. Haynes III — senior pastor of Friendship-West Baptist Church, a predominantly black megachurch — slammed the Cowboys owner on Monday, accusing him of reverting to "plantation politics" to silence black athletes who want to protest police brutality.

"Mr. Jones doesn't mind cheering for those black players while they're on the field, but he's not concerned about the hell their communities are catching off the field," Haynes said during a news conference at the Dallas police headquarters on South Lamar Street.

Last month, Jones tried to steer the Cowboys away from the firestorm over athletes kneeling during the national anthem after President Donald Trump called on NFL team owners to fire the demonstrators. In Trump's view, the protests are disrespectful to the flag and "our heritage."

As football fans nationwide turned to the Cowboys in late September, Jones and his players took a knee before — but not during — the anthem as a gesture of solidarity with others in the NFL who were taking a stance against racial inequality.

However, Jones turned himself into a lightning rod when he announced Oct. 8 after a game with the Green Bay Packers that any player "disrespectful to the flag" won't be allowed to play.

The Cowboys haven't had a player protest during the anthem, though defensive linemen Damontre Moore and David Irving have raised fists at its conclusion.

Jones committed to his stance last week during his radio show on KRLD-FM (105.3 The Fan).

"If you do not honor and stand for the flag in the way that a lot of our fans feel that you should then you won't play," Jones said. "That's nothing new as far as that being my wish or want [for] the Cowboys."

The Cowboys' first game following Jones' remarks will be Sunday against the San Francisco 49ers, whose former quarterback, Colin Kaepernick, launched the protests last season to draw attention to the killings of unarmed black people by police.

Haynes, the pastor, said he and other activists criticizing Jones on Monday decided on purpose to stand in front of a banner that read "We support our Dallas police officers" to avoid distractions about their real message.

"We have the back of our police department as long as they have our back," said Haynes, who wore a T-shirt printed with an image of Kaepernick kneeling.

Others who addressed reporters at the news conference included Dominique Alexander, leader of the activist group Next Generation Action Network, and Shirley Ison-Newsome, a former Dallas ISD administrator.

The activists' criticism of Jones echoed pointed comments made last week by Dallas County Commissioner John Wiley Price, one of Dallas' most prominent black politicians.

Price told The Dallas Morning News that players are showing they notice the mistreatment of people of color in America.

"What the players are saying, in some uniform position, is that they can see," Price said. "And so, Jerry issues an order that says, 'Slaves, obey your master.'"

 

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http://host.madison.com/ct/news/loc...cle_e690b9c5-9259-5c43-8505-9869e1190f6e.html

Scott Walker to NFL players: Stop 'divisive' anthem protests, stand against domestic violence instead

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker says it's time for professional football players to stop protesting racial inequality and police brutality during the national anthem and instead focus on denouncing domestic violence.

Walker sent a letter on Monday to the National Football League and the NFL Players Association with what he called a simple request: that players stand during the national anthem and use their platforms to stand against domestic violence.

"It is time for players in the NFL to stop their protests during the anthem and move on from what has become a divisive political sideshow," Walker wrote. "Instead, I encourage them to use their voices and influence to take a stand against domestic violence. With the NFL Fall League Meeting occurring tomorrow, during Domestic Violence Awareness Month, now would be an especially opportune time to strongly condemn domestic violence and lead the charge in supporting safe families across America."

The Republican governor said the idea came to him last week during an awards ceremony at the state Capitol recognizing outstanding achievement in domestic abuse issues.

"As I sat and heard these amazing stories, it occurred to me that NFL players could have a remarkable impact on awareness and prevention efforts if each player would agree to speak out, as well as agree to take a personal stand, against domestic violence. This is an issue that can unite people across America," Walker wrote.

Asked about the protests a few weeks ago, Walker said it's important to him, personally, to stand with his hand over his heart during the national anthem, but that he would not "tell people what they should or shouldn't do."

In his letter to NFL commissioner Roger Goodell and NFL players union director DeMaurice Smith, Walker said speaking up for one's beliefs is "a profoundly American idea," but "disrespecting our flag, and the men and women who have fought to protect and defend our country, is not American in the slightest."

Former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick was the first player to kneel during the national anthem, starting last season, in protest of racial inequality and police brutality in the United States. Other players have joined the protests this season, while President Donald Trump has called on the NFL and team owners to fire players who participate.

Vice President Mike Pence said he walked out of an Indianapolis Colts game last week because players protested during the anthem.

The NFL has also been criticized for years for its lax approach to acts of domestic violence committed by players.

"My request is simple: stand for the American flag and the national anthem out of respect for those who risk their lives for our freedoms, and then take a stand against domestic violence to keep American families safe. That’s something we can all agree on, and that just might help the NFL reunite with many of its devoted fans," Walker wrote.

The white governor wants the black players to focus on what he cares about.. And not the issue they care about to appease him so he can feel better.. That’s the definition of white privilege...

 

[Maywood]

On this day, the forty-fifth anniversary of the fists of freedom at the 1968 Olympics, John Carlos and Tommie Smith raised their black gloved fists to the heavens, with Australian silver medalist Peter Norman standing in solidarity and creating an image for the ages.

 

[dnyce215]

First things first they are having an abitration hearing and they motioning for discovery is what I’m told. Roland Martin had a discussion about it. I would post it but you guys don’t like to click links.

 

[JJ_Evans]

He is forcing their hand, they have no choice but to cooperate. It goes past arbitration NFL will have a big problem. Let’s see how this goes when the depositions come in

100% agree.

They will not be able to prove why a young talented QB has not been given another chance after almost all past young talented QBs have been given dozens of chances.

There's no way in hell they can explain why Tim Tebow was given chances with 4 different teams over the course of 6 years with a career passer rating of 75, but Kap has only been given a chance with 1 team........A team in which he has a career passer rating of 90 in his 6 seasons.

 

[blackrain]

He is forcing their hand, they have no choice but to cooperate. It goes past arbitration NFL will have a big problem. Let’s see how this goes when the depositions come in

100% agree.

They will not be able to prove why a young talented QB has not been given another chance after almost all past young talented QBs have been given dozens of chances.

There's no way in hell they can explain why Tim Tebow was given chances with 4 different teams over the course of 6 years with a career passer rating of 75, but Kap has only been given a chance with 1 team........A team in which he has a career passer rating of 90 in his 6 seasons.

It's not on the league to prove anything...it's on Kaep and his team to prove that somehow even 2 NFL owners conspired against him...and that's where his biggest challenge comes in is being able to find and present that evidence.

 

[Max.]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BaT3RcUjXJZ/?taken-by=realpeterock

@"Max."

*BODYBAG*

But he didnt get fired lol..

 

[Shizlansky]

The NYG owner basically said he don’t want the backlash.

But that’s not enough

 

[JJ_Evans]

He is forcing their hand, they have no choice but to cooperate. It goes past arbitration NFL will have a big problem. Let’s see how this goes when the depositions come in

100% agree.

They will not be able to prove why a young talented QB has not been given another chance after almost all past young talented QBs have been given dozens of chances.

There's no way in hell they can explain why Tim Tebow was given chances with 4 different teams over the course of 6 years with a career passer rating of 75, but Kap has only been given a chance with 1 team........A team in which he has a career passer rating of 90 in his 6 seasons.

It's not on the league to prove anything...it's on Kaep and his team to prove that somehow even 2 NFL owners conspired against him...and that's where his biggest challenge comes in is being able to find and present that evidence.

It won't be hard for him to present evidence. I just presented a small piece of evidence for you.

It is all gonna come down to the arbitrator and/or the judge being fair in their decision making. If either or both of those people are in the pockets of the owners or if they're Trump supporters, then he's gonna lose.

 

[Max.]

He is forcing their hand, they have no choice but to cooperate. It goes past arbitration NFL will have a big problem. Let’s see how this goes when the depositions come in

100% agree.

They will not be able to prove why a young talented QB has not been given another chance after almost all past young talented QBs have been given dozens of chances.

There's no way in hell they can explain why Tim Tebow was given chances with 4 different teams over the course of 6 years with a career passer rating of 75, but Kap has only been given a chance with 1 team........A team in which he has a career passer rating of 90 in his 6 seasons.

It's not on the league to prove anything...it's on Kaep and his team to prove that somehow even 2 NFL owners conspired against him...and that's where his biggest challenge comes in is being able to find and present that evidence.

Better hope he finds emails between owners

After this he really aint getn a call

 

[farris2k1]

He is forcing their hand, they have no choice but to cooperate. It goes past arbitration NFL will have a big problem. Let’s see how this goes when the depositions come in

100% agree.

They will not be able to prove why a young talented QB has not been given another chance after almost all past young talented QBs have been given dozens of chances.

There's no way in hell they can explain why Tim Tebow was given chances with 4 different teams over the course of 6 years with a career passer rating of 75, but Kap has only been given a chance with 1 team........A team in which he has a career passer rating of 90 in his 6 seasons.

It's not on the league to prove anything...it's on Kaep and his team to prove that somehow even 2 NFL owners conspired against him...and that's where his biggest challenge comes in is being able to find and present that evidence.

It won't be hard for him to present evidence. I just presented a small piece of evidence for you.

It is all gonna come down to the arbitrator and/or the judge being fair in their decision making. If either or both of those people are in the pockets of the owners or if they're Trump supporters, then he's gonna lose.

Nigga saying "how do you explain signing him but not kap??" Isnt gonna hold up for shit, you need facts and evidence showing that owners all basically said they arent signing him, he damn near gonna have to have dudes on tape, txt messages phone calls emails watever saying they arent fucking wit him, why do you think damn near every legal person and anyone with any commom sense of how law works is saying this is a longshot??

 

[Max.]

He is forcing their hand, they have no choice but to cooperate. It goes past arbitration NFL will have a big problem. Let’s see how this goes when the depositions come in

100% agree.

They will not be able to prove why a young talented QB has not been given another chance after almost all past young talented QBs have been given dozens of chances.

There's no way in hell they can explain why Tim Tebow was given chances with 4 different teams over the course of 6 years with a career passer rating of 75, but Kap has only been given a chance with 1 team........A team in which he has a career passer rating of 90 in his 6 seasons.

It's not on the league to prove anything...it's on Kaep and his team to prove that somehow even 2 NFL owners conspired against him...and that's where his biggest challenge comes in is being able to find and present that evidence.

It won't be hard for him to present evidence. I just presented a small piece of evidence for you.

It is all gonna come down to the arbitrator and/or the judge being fair in their decision making. If either or both of those people are in the pockets of the owners or if they're Trump supporters, then he's gonna lose.

Nigga saying "how do you explain signing him but not kap??" Isnt gonna hold up for shit, you need facts and evidence showing that owners all basically said they arent signing him, he damn near gonna have to have dudes on tape, txt messages phone calls emails watever saying they arent fucking wit him, why do you think damn near every legal person and anyone with any commom sense of how law works is saying this is a longshot??

Kap has 88.9 rating

Rg3 has 88.4

Jj prolly thinks 100 is the highest number lmaoo

 

[Shizlansky]

He is forcing their hand, they have no choice but to cooperate. It goes past arbitration NFL will have a big problem. Let’s see how this goes when the depositions come in

100% agree.

They will not be able to prove why a young talented QB has not been given another chance after almost all past young talented QBs have been given dozens of chances.

There's no way in hell they can explain why Tim Tebow was given chances with 4 different teams over the course of 6 years with a career passer rating of 75, but Kap has only been given a chance with 1 team........A team in which he has a career passer rating of 90 in his 6 seasons.

It's not on the league to prove anything...it's on Kaep and his team to prove that somehow even 2 NFL owners conspired against him...and that's where his biggest challenge comes in is being able to find and present that evidence.

It won't be hard for him to present evidence. I just presented a small piece of evidence for you.

It is all gonna come down to the arbitrator and/or the judge being fair in their decision making. If either or both of those people are in the pockets of the owners or if they're Trump supporters, then he's gonna lose.

Nigga saying "how do you explain signing him but not kap??" Isnt gonna hold up for shit, you need facts and evidence showing that owners all basically said they arent signing him, he damn near gonna have to have dudes on tape, txt messages phone calls emails watever saying they arent fucking wit him, why do you think damn near every legal person and anyone with any commom sense of how law works is saying this is a longshot??

Kap has 88.9 rating

Rg3 has 88.4

Jj prolly thinks 100 is the highest number lmaoo

RG3 is a serviceable backup though. He just always get hurt.