Colin Kaepernick refuses “to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses Black people”...

[The Lonious Monk]

Whats being lost in the whole national anthem debate is the fact that the anthem was written by slave owner and the 3rd verse reference of killing slaves. That's still not common knowledge yet. That fact should be as mainstream as the name Kaepernick.

Americans don't give af about that. That's the same thing as saying americans killed the natives and stole their land. They don't give a fuck! its a non starter imo

Yeah, let's not forget that there are people in this country that are mad because others don't think Columbus, a sadistic rapist, murderer, and slaver deserves to be honored. If those people see some merit in something, they don't give a shit about anything to the contrary.

 

[5th Letter]

On a side note, the protests are good for bringing attention to the issue (when they aren't being deflected), but one thing that has always bothered me about all these anti-police brutality protests is that they aren't quite as good at bringing attention to the solutions.

I think at a minimum, anyone taking a stand and attempting to raise awareness about this issue should direct people to this site for answers about what can be done.
https://www.joincampaignzero.org/solutions/#solutionsoverview

The solution is when race soldiers kill black people unjustly. They should be charged and sentenced harshly, no bullshit slap on the wrist either. Kaepernick was kneeling to protest injustice and racism and white supremacy and race soldiers harming black people and getting away with it. We don't care if these white supremacists are racists or not, we care about justice being served.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

On a side note, the protests are good for bringing attention to the issue (when they aren't being deflected), but one thing that has always bothered me about all these anti-police brutality protests is that they aren't quite as good at bringing attention to the solutions.

I think at a minimum, anyone taking a stand and attempting to raise awareness about this issue should direct people to this site for answers about what can be done.
https://www.joincampaignzero.org/solutions/#solutionsoverview

The solution is when race soldiers kill black people unjustly. They should be charged and sentenced harshly, no bullshit slap on the wrist either. Kaepernick was kneeling to protest injustice and racism and white supremacy and race soldiers harming black people and getting away with it. We don't care if these white supremacists are racists or not, we care about justice being served.

Check out the site. They address that. Shit is not as easy as people seem to think. A lot of these cops are charged and sent to trial, and the juries let them off. So you can't just say that the solution is to charge them and sentence them harshly. The site actual explains what could be done to reduce the chances of cops getting off after clearly being in the wrong.

 

[5th Letter]

On a side note, the protests are good for bringing attention to the issue (when they aren't being deflected), but one thing that has always bothered me about all these anti-police brutality protests is that they aren't quite as good at bringing attention to the solutions.

I think at a minimum, anyone taking a stand and attempting to raise awareness about this issue should direct people to this site for answers about what can be done.
https://www.joincampaignzero.org/solutions/#solutionsoverview

The solution is when race soldiers kill black people unjustly. They should be charged and sentenced harshly, no bullshit slap on the wrist either. Kaepernick was kneeling to protest injustice and racism and white supremacy and race soldiers harming black people and getting away with it. We don't care if these white supremacists are racists or not, we care about justice being served.

Check out the site. They address that. Shit is not as easy as people seem to think. A lot of these cops are charged and sent to trial, and the juries let them off. So you can't just say that the solution is to charge them and sentence them harshly. The site actual explains what could be done to reduce the chances of cops getting off after clearly being in the wrong.

If not charging and sentencing them is not a solution then what is?

 

[2stepz_ahead]

Even if what you say is true. No one has to do anything simply because, they are told. If, a man has a shred of integrity they aren't going to compromise their life's work just to toe the company line. If, Black players are compromising themselves then it makes sense why white folks are acting as they are. whites have every right then to say you've been good lil niggers, don't be a hypocrite now.

I think you're being a little too critical. There is nothing wrong them feeling like the are privileged to be able to play in the NFL. They essentially get to make millions of dollars for playing a game they love so much they'd probably play it for free. It doesn't matter that they worked hard to be there and earned their spot, the setup itself is what they see as a privilege because most people in the world are not in anything close to the same position as far as employment goes.

I fail to see how being gracious about their situation means it's ok for their employers to disrespect them. You make a lot of good points on these matters, but sometimes I feel like you go hard just for the sake of going hard.

feeling privileged takes away from your hard work and the sacrifice they make every sunday and monday or thursday.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

On a side note, the protests are good for bringing attention to the issue (when they aren't being deflected), but one thing that has always bothered me about all these anti-police brutality protests is that they aren't quite as good at bringing attention to the solutions.

I think at a minimum, anyone taking a stand and attempting to raise awareness about this issue should direct people to this site for answers about what can be done.
https://www.joincampaignzero.org/solutions/#solutionsoverview

Solutions to the issues are out there in abundance. Whites are to busy deflecting, and ignoring the issues. There is no way to get to a solution when you have a power structure that doesn't believe there's a problem.

Here are some proposed solutions.

The most obvious is, STOP SHOOTING NIGGAS!!

Now to the more subtle which I have read several times throughout the debate. Start paying the shooting victims out of the police pension fund.

Address the Blue code of silence, the corrupt judicial system and actually start sending killer cops to real prison.

Begin drug testing cops regularly and immediately after shootings. I believe many of these cops are on all types of drugs, from alcohol, to roids, to coke.

There's always going to be rouges. But to settle the people and have them genuinely believe something is being done you have start somewhere. Outside of some body cams which they don't legally have turned on. There's been nothing by way of legislation to address the issue.

the bold is a great idea.....

they just gonna let niggas run free they do that

 

[The Lonious Monk]

On a side note, the protests are good for bringing attention to the issue (when they aren't being deflected), but one thing that has always bothered me about all these anti-police brutality protests is that they aren't quite as good at bringing attention to the solutions.

I think at a minimum, anyone taking a stand and attempting to raise awareness about this issue should direct people to this site for answers about what can be done.
https://www.joincampaignzero.org/solutions/#solutionsoverview

The solution is when race soldiers kill black people unjustly. They should be charged and sentenced harshly, no bullshit slap on the wrist either. Kaepernick was kneeling to protest injustice and racism and white supremacy and race soldiers harming black people and getting away with it. We don't care if these white supremacists are racists or not, we care about justice being served.

Check out the site. They address that. Shit is not as easy as people seem to think. A lot of these cops are charged and sent to trial, and the juries let them off. So you can't just say that the solution is to charge them and sentence them harshly. The site actual explains what could be done to reduce the chances of cops getting off after clearly being in the wrong.

If not charging and sentencing them is not a solution then what is?

Like I said, check the site. Charging and sentencing really isn't a solution. It's more like a prerequisite goal that must be met in order to accomplish the greater goal. The site gives multiple examples of actual solutions that can lead to meeting that goal. For example, it proposed the creation of a board that is composed of people drawn from the community that don't have any ties to the police. That board would then have a say in how these cases were handled. It also suggests that these cases be handled by independent or Federal prosecutors to avoid conflict of interest coming into play (e.g. Tamir Rice case where the prosecutor really didn't even want to put the cops on trial because he worked with them).

When I say solution, I'm talking about measures that can be implemented to attack the problem. Saying cops should be charged and sentenced is fine, but that's not really offering any idea on how to accomplish it. There's not button that can be pushed to instantly make it happen.

Even if what you say is true. No one has to do anything simply because, they are told. If, a man has a shred of integrity they aren't going to compromise their life's work just to toe the company line. If, Black players are compromising themselves then it makes sense why white folks are acting as they are. whites have every right then to say you've been good lil niggers, don't be a hypocrite now.

I think you're being a little too critical. There is nothing wrong them feeling like the are privileged to be able to play in the NFL. They essentially get to make millions of dollars for playing a game they love so much they'd probably play it for free. It doesn't matter that they worked hard to be there and earned their spot, the setup itself is what they see as a privilege because most people in the world are not in anything close to the same position as far as employment goes.

I fail to see how being gracious about their situation means it's ok for their employers to disrespect them. You make a lot of good points on these matters, but sometimes I feel like you go hard just for the sake of going hard.

feeling privileged takes away from your hard work and the sacrifice they make every sunday and monday or thursday.

That's not true. You dudes are honestly making too much out of a platitude.

A old guy recently retired from my job. He had a PhD and 25 years in the field before he even joined this company. When he did join he basically created one of the more important divisions here. The first thing he said in his retirement speech was "It's been an honor and a privilege to work at this company for the past 15 years." No one that heard that was sitting there like "oh shit, he feels privileged to be here so the work he put in before he got here and the work he put in while he was here don't mean that much."

You're completely misrepresenting what people mean when they make statements like that.

 

[stringer bell]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/sessions-nfl-should-have-formal-rule-players-anthem

Sessions: NFL Should Have ‘Rule’ Requiring Players To Stand For Anthem

Attorney General Jeff Sessions on Wednesday said he thinks the NFL should have a “formal rule” requiring players to stand for the national anthem.

“I think people should stand. I think it should be a formal rule of the league,” Sessions said on “Fox and Friends.”

He said the NFL would “have to make that decision.”

“But they should be able to say to the players, ‘If you’re on our field, in our game, paid by us, you should respect the flag and the national anthem,'” Sessions said.

President Donald Trump last week said that any “son of a bitch” who protests during the national anthem should be fired, and spent Monday and Tuesday tweeting attacks against players and teams who take a knee in protest.

On Tuesday, Trump nevertheless insisted that he was not “preoccupied” with the subject.

“Was I preoccupied? Not at all. I have plenty of time on my hands,” he said. “All I do is work.”

 

[stringer bell]

https://theundefeated.com/features/jemele-hill-on-doing-the-right-thing/

Jemele Hill on doing the right thing

A lesson from her grandmother: Be better. No matter what.

 

[MR.CJ]

 

[blackrain]

Somebody wrote this as a response to Ray Lewis

 

[The Lonious Monk]

So a chick writing for the NY Times that has regular access to Trump wrote an article confirming that Trump purposely launched his attack against the NFL for the specific reason of dividing the country. He's essentially using the protests as a means to galvanize his base, and it's not some off the cuff thing. It was planned out.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/us/politics/trump-nascar-nfl-protests.html?mcubz=3

 

[Alpha_Ambition]

Many were against Ali. Now they talk about how heroic he was. Whites who hated him now talk as if they love him.

Facts and I remember when he passed and Jim Brown said people started loving him when he lost his ability to speak

 

[Angeles1son85]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZjKnmijZRN/

 

[Angeles1son85]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZjapqUhEEx/

 

[farris2k1]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZjKnmijZRN/

Lol that last tweet is so stupid all you can do is laugh

 

[D. Morgan]

https://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/913018013296807937

 

[Focal Point]

http://www.tsn.ca/sharks-ward-considers-kneeling-for-anthem-1.867862

Sharks' Ward considers kneeling for anthem - Article - TSN

The protests that have taken place in the NFL could also possibly happen in the NHL, as San Jose Sharks forward Joel Ward told The Mercury News he is not ruling out the possibility of taking a knee during the national anthem.

“It’s definitely something I wouldn’t cross out,” Ward told the San Jose-based newspaper when asked about joining the protests. “I’ve experienced a lot of racism myself in hockey and on a day-to-day occurrence. I haven’t really sat down to think about it too much yet, but I definitely wouldn’t say no to it.”

Ward, a Toronto native, told the Mercury News that he dealt with racism in the youth hockey system with both players and people in the stands making racist comments towards him as he played.

“I had no clue what the words meant until my parents educated me about what was going on in my surroundings,” Ward said. “I was just a kid who fell in love with the game and picked up a hockey stick. I didn’t really look at it as color.”

Ward also dealt with the issue after becoming an NHL player when, following a playoff series-winning goal against the Boston Bruins in 2012, he was bombarded on Twitter with both racist comments and death threats from Bruins fans.

The 36-year-old told the Mercury News that he’s been subjected to racial profiling off the ice, in addition to what he’s been subjected to while in uniform.

“I’ve dealt with it a lot,” Ward said. “I’ve had a few things that have happened to me that you could say are not the norm. I’ve been singled out at different events. I’ve been pulled over. I’ve dealt with racism right to my face.”

Ward says that being a Canadian playing in America would not stop him from taking a knee for the anthem because he’s had to endure racist treatment on both sides of the border.

Sharks head coach Peter DeBoer told the Mercury News that he would have his player’s back if he decided to protest during the anthem.

“I went to law school. I’m a big freedom of speech guy,” DeBoer said. “Everyone has the right to message how they want to. That’s what makes our countries great, Canada and the U.S., is the freedom to able to express yourself if you feel like you’ve been wronged or there’s an injustice.”

Ward said he’s also discussed the situation with general manager Doug Wilson and received support.

https://twitter.com/mercnews/status/912816778262253568

Well damn, called it

 

[5th Letter]

On a side note, the protests are good for bringing attention to the issue (when they aren't being deflected), but one thing that has always bothered me about all these anti-police brutality protests is that they aren't quite as good at bringing attention to the solutions.

I think at a minimum, anyone taking a stand and attempting to raise awareness about this issue should direct people to this site for answers about what can be done.
https://www.joincampaignzero.org/solutions/#solutionsoverview

The solution is when race soldiers kill black people unjustly. They should be charged and sentenced harshly, no bullshit slap on the wrist either. Kaepernick was kneeling to protest injustice and racism and white supremacy and race soldiers harming black people and getting away with it. We don't care if these white supremacists are racists or not, we care about justice being served.

Check out the site. They address that. Shit is not as easy as people seem to think. A lot of these cops are charged and sent to trial, and the juries let them off. So you can't just say that the solution is to charge them and sentence them harshly. The site actual explains what could be done to reduce the chances of cops getting off after clearly being in the wrong.

If not charging and sentencing them is not a solution then what is?

Like I said, check the site. Charging and sentencing really isn't a solution. It's more like a prerequisite goal that must be met in order to accomplish the greater goal. The site gives multiple examples of actual solutions that can lead to meeting that goal. For example, it proposed the creation of a board that is composed of people drawn from the community that don't have any ties to the police. That board would then have a say in how these cases were handled. It also suggests that these cases be handled by independent or Federal prosecutors to avoid conflict of interest coming into play (e.g. Tamir Rice case where the prosecutor really didn't even want to put the cops on trial because he worked with them).

When I say solution, I'm talking about measures that can be implemented to attack the problem. Saying cops should be charged and sentenced is fine, but that's not really offering any idea on how to accomplish it. There's not button that can be pushed to instantly make it happen.

Even if what you say is true. No one has to do anything simply because, they are told. If, a man has a shred of integrity they aren't going to compromise their life's work just to toe the company line. If, Black players are compromising themselves then it makes sense why white folks are acting as they are. whites have every right then to say you've been good lil niggers, don't be a hypocrite now.

I think you're being a little too critical. There is nothing wrong them feeling like the are privileged to be able to play in the NFL. They essentially get to make millions of dollars for playing a game they love so much they'd probably play it for free. It doesn't matter that they worked hard to be there and earned their spot, the setup itself is what they see as a privilege because most people in the world are not in anything close to the same position as far as employment goes.

I fail to see how being gracious about their situation means it's ok for their employers to disrespect them. You make a lot of good points on these matters, but sometimes I feel like you go hard just for the sake of going hard.

feeling privileged takes away from your hard work and the sacrifice they make every sunday and monday or thursday.

That's not true. You dudes are honestly making too much out of a platitude.

A old guy recently retired from my job. He had a PhD and 25 years in the field before he even joined this company. When he did join he basically created one of the more important divisions here. The first thing he said in his retirement speech was "It's been an honor and a privilege to work at this company for the past 15 years." No one that heard that was sitting there like "oh shit, he feels privileged to be here so the work he put in before he got here and the work he put in while he was here don't mean that much."

You're completely misrepresenting what people mean when they make statements like that.

So saying that we want justice whenever these race soldiers do wrong isn't a solution? All you did was come up with an idea in terms of how you'd want to reach the objective.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

So saying that we want justice whenever these race soldiers do wrong isn't a solution? All you did was come up with an idea in terms of how you'd want to reach the objective.

I don't know if you're doing it to be difficult or what.

I'm confused. What is difficult about this? If it's something you want, it's not a solution, it's an objective or a desire. The solution would be the means of achieving that objective or desire.

If the problem is police violence against blacks, ending police violence against blacks isn't the solution. Again, that would be the objective. The legislation you put into place to reduce the amount of deaths at the hands of killer cops would be the solution.