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John Elway hopeful to “take politics out of football” moving forward

John Elway, the Hall of Fame quarterback and president of football operations for the Denver Broncos, released a statement through the team on Tuesday night addressing the protests during the national anthem from this past weekend’s games.

Elway expressed his belief in standing for the anthem and the flag while indicating he understood the desire of his players to make a statement following the comments of President Donald Trump last Friday in Huntsville, Ala.

“I’m one that believes in standing for the national anthem, and I’ve always believed that,” Elway said in the statement. “I believe that this is the greatest country in the world. We are very fortunate to live here, but it’s obviously not perfect. There are a lot of things that need to be corrected, and we will continue to work on those things. I’m one that really believes in standing for the flag. I understand the players and the way they felt from the comments that were made earlier in the week. They felt they had to go down and kneel and that’s up to them. Hopefully as we go forward we can start concentrating on football a little bit more. Take the politics out of football. But I think that last week was a good show of unity by the NFL and hopefully this week we can move forward.”

It’s interesting that Elway makes a claim of wanting to take the politics out of football. In March, Elway wrote a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee endorsing the candidacy of Neil Gorsuch for the Supreme Court. He did so on his personal letterhead, which includes Broncos logos. Apparently it was OK for Elway to support a political appointee with the weight of the Broncos behind him in March, but now that it’s a protest by the players he wants to “take the politics out of football.”

Elway can support anyone he wants. He was present in Washington D.C. for Trump’s inauguration in January. But it rings a bit hollow when he makes a political statement of his own in backing Gorsuch for the Supreme Court on team stationary and then claims he doesn’t want politics and football to intersect months later.

The protests – which, again, are focused on bringing attention to police brutality and social injustices – had been relegated to a fairly minor story line at the start of the season until the president elected to attack the league and call players who knelt in protest “sons of bitches” last week. What seems clear is that it’s now been magnified more than ever and doesn’t appear close to subsiding anytime soon.

The white boss wants the black players to “stick to sports” while he does the opposite(using team logos and everything to make political statements)…
 

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/megyn-k...ests-players-have-every-right-to-take-a-knee/

Megyn Kelly Weighs in on National Anthem Protests: Players Have ‘Every Right to Take a Knee’

While some of her former colleagues at Fox News continue to savage NFL players for protesting, Megyn Kelly defended those who kneel for the national anthem while hosting her new NBC show.

During an audience Q&A segment, a woman asked Kelly for her thoughts on the controversy — to which the host replied by emphasizing her love for the First Amendment:

I think, in a way, this whole situation underscores some of the beauty of our country, because those players have every right to take a knee. And those who object to it have every right to say they object… The bedrock of the First Amendment is the answer to speech we do not like is not less speech. It’s more speech. So, I just sort of think, Go USA.”

Kelly made these comments as President Donald Trump continues his crusade against the NFL for allowing players to protest during the pregame national anthem — even going so far as to say the league should make a rule barring athletes from the practice.

While Kelly claims she is “not a political animal” and her new show is being billed as a “politics-free zone,” with questions like this, it’s clear that the long-time Washington reporter will not be able to escape her media past so easily.

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marc123;c-10013983 said:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/09/27/titans-wideout-will-kneel-until-donald-trump-apologizes/

Titans wideout will kneel until Donald Trump apologizes

props to dude. tho trump will never apologize

This isn't really a good thing though. Donald Trump and others are purposely trying to divert the issue away from what it's really about - social injustices for blacks in this country. This guy is kinda feeding into it. If he's going to kneel, he should be kneeling for the right reason not as a petty comeback to a pettier man.

playmaker88;c-10014000 said:
Yesterday i saw someshit where a baseball player said he wanted to knee but out of respect for his teammates..

i wanted too drop kick my tv... and Van Jones is fucking infuriating.. carebear ass nigga

I'm not even sure why the nigga would publicly say that shit. Who does that?

"I almost saved that kid from that burning building, but I had to get to the barber shop before they got crowded."
 
People need to stop acting like sports and politics have never mixed before now. The two are inextricably tied. If you dont want politics in sports let's stop sending championship teams to the white house. Let's stop having the military and the national anthem play before games. Let's stop having ncaa basketball games played on navy ships. Let's stop letting politicians receive donations from athletes, coaches and owners. Let's stop having the Olympics. Lets stop putting logos on jerseys. Let's stop taking moments of silence. Let's stop running ads during games...politics in sports are fine then tho.
 
stringer bell;c-10014057 said:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/09/27/john-elway-hopeful-to-take-politics-out-of-football-moving-foward/

John Elway hopeful to “take politics out of football” moving forward

John Elway, the Hall of Fame quarterback and president of football operations for the Denver Broncos, released a statement through the team on Tuesday night addressing the protests during the national anthem from this past weekend’s games.

Elway expressed his belief in standing for the anthem and the flag while indicating he understood the desire of his players to make a statement following the comments of President Donald Trump last Friday in Huntsville, Ala.

“I’m one that believes in standing for the national anthem, and I’ve always believed that,” Elway said in the statement. “I believe that this is the greatest country in the world. We are very fortunate to live here, but it’s obviously not perfect. There are a lot of things that need to be corrected, and we will continue to work on those things. I’m one that really believes in standing for the flag. I understand the players and the way they felt from the comments that were made earlier in the week. They felt they had to go down and kneel and that’s up to them. Hopefully as we go forward we can start concentrating on football a little bit more. Take the politics out of football. But I think that last week was a good show of unity by the NFL and hopefully this week we can move forward.”

It’s interesting that Elway makes a claim of wanting to take the politics out of football. In March, Elway wrote a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee endorsing the candidacy of Neil Gorsuch for the Supreme Court. He did so on his personal letterhead, which includes Broncos logos. Apparently it was OK for Elway to support a political appointee with the weight of the Broncos behind him in March, but now that it’s a protest by the players he wants to “take the politics out of football.”

Elway can support anyone he wants. He was present in Washington D.C. for Trump’s inauguration in January. But it rings a bit hollow when he makes a political statement of his own in backing Gorsuch for the Supreme Court on team stationary and then claims he doesn’t want politics and football to intersect months later.

The protests – which, again, are focused on bringing attention to police brutality and social injustices – had been relegated to a fairly minor story line at the start of the season until the president elected to attack the league and call players who knelt in protest “sons of bitches” last week. What seems clear is that it’s now been magnified more than ever and doesn’t appear close to subsiding anytime soon.

The white boss wants the black players to “stick to sports” while he does the opposite(using team logos and everything to make political statements)…

Cacs being the hypocrites that they are. And the bold is the problem. The protest has always been about Police brutality and inequality. Not as Elway put it. " a lot of things".

 
I think the whole "keep politics out of it crowd" are the stupidest people involved. All these dudes are doing is kneeling for like 15 mins at the start of a 3 hour long event. It is easily ignored and should have absolutely no effect on their ability to enjoy the game at all. Why are they mad at the players? If they are mad about all of this interfering with their enjoyment, they should be mad at the people attacking the players and making this an issue.
 

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/tucker-...uest-about-race-dont-give-me-the-victim-card/

Tucker Carlson Lectures African-American Guest About Race: ‘Don’t Give Me The Victim Card!’

Things got very heated between Tucker Carlson and Democratic strategist Scott Bolden on the ongoing NFL anthem protest.

Carlson insisted while the players don’t have to stand for the national anthem, they “should.”

“I’m not arguing that the government should intervene, I’m arguing that decent people should behave in a certain way,” Carlson said, “and if you care about this country, you should express it by the way you behave in public- especially if you’re famous.”

When Bolden asked Carlson if he thought that doing “jumping jacks” would be offensive during the national anthem, Carlson said it would because it was “intended that way.”

“They’re waging an attack on the idea of America that is illegitimate and fundamentally corrupt and my point it is, while it is legal and it should be protected under the First Amendment,” Carlson continued, “and I hope you’re defending Milo [Yiannopoulos] and the rest.”

Carlson agreed with Bolden when he said that the United States an “imperfect country” but rejected his claim that “white America isn’t doing their part” to work with people of color to “make this country better.”

“I didn’t expect to go down this road with you,” Carlson reacted, ” because I didn’t know you were going to uncork racist sentiments like that on my show.”

“Race matters, it always matters,” Bolden shot back.

Bolden said people of color “live with racism and racial oppression everyday” and that “white America does not.”

“I’ve been brutalized by the police,” Bolden said. “I’ve been offended by the police.”

“You’re wearing thousand dollar cufflinks!” Carlson exclaimed. “Don’t give me the victim card.”

Bolden insisted that Carlson “can’t relate” to him because the Fox News host was never discriminated against by the police.

CARLSON: So because I am white, you’re saying I have no voice in this conversation.”

BOLDEN: You do.

CARLSON: You are fundamentally unreasonable and the position you are taking is an inherently racist one because you are dismissing the position of someone on the basis of his skin color.

BOLDEN: No, I’m dismissing you because of your experience or lack thereof.

CARLSON: You know nothing of my experience.

BOLDEN: Have the police ever brutalized you? Wrongfully stopped you? Spread you on the ground?

CARLSON: Spare me, Mr. Million Dollar Lawyer, this talk!


Carlson believes that police brutality “needs to be addressed,” but thinks a “rich guy” like Bolden who like himself has benefited from this country is “disgusting” to call the country “rotten.”

“We live in two Americas,” Bolden responded. “One black and one white.”

“You live in my neighborhood I bet!” Carlson shouted. “Your cufflinks cost more than my first car! I’m not going to listen to this garbage.”

Carlson then pressed Bolden on what neighborhood he lives in and predicted that he sends his kids to private school.

“‘We live in two Americas’… Don’t give me this crap!” Carlson added.

I hope the bookers of Tucker’s show slips up and makes the mistake of inviting a black man on there.. Who’s not going take any kind of disrespect from that smug white supremacist...
 
stringer bell;c-10014084 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=155OS7YjHqQ
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/tucker-...uest-about-race-dont-give-me-the-victim-card/

Tucker Carlson Lectures African-American Guest About Race: ‘Don’t Give Me The Victim Card!’

Things got very heated between Tucker Carlson and Democratic strategist Scott Bolden on the ongoing NFL anthem protest.

Carlson insisted while the players don’t have to stand for the national anthem, they “should.”

“I’m not arguing that the government should intervene, I’m arguing that decent people should behave in a certain way,” Carlson said, “and if you care about this country, you should express it by the way you behave in public- especially if you’re famous.”

When Bolden asked Carlson if he thought that doing “jumping jacks” would be offensive during the national anthem, Carlson said it would because it was “intended that way.”

“They’re waging an attack on the idea of America that is illegitimate and fundamentally corrupt and my point it is, while it is legal and it should be protected under the First Amendment,” Carlson continued, “and I hope you’re defending Milo [Yiannopoulos] and the rest.”

Carlson agreed with Bolden when he said that the United States an “imperfect country” but rejected his claim that “white America isn’t doing their part” to work with people of color to “make this country better.”

“I didn’t expect to go down this road with you,” Carlson reacted, ” because I didn’t know you were going to uncork racist sentiments like that on my show.”

“Race matters, it always matters,” Bolden shot back.

Bolden said people of color “live with racism and racial oppression everyday” and that “white America does not.”

“I’ve been brutalized by the police,” Bolden said. “I’ve been offended by the police.”

“You’re wearing thousand dollar cufflinks!” Carlson exclaimed. “Don’t give me the victim card.”

Bolden insisted that Carlson “can’t relate” to him because the Fox News host was never discriminated against by the police.

CARLSON: So because I am white, you’re saying I have no voice in this conversation.”

BOLDEN: You do.

CARLSON: You are fundamentally unreasonable and the position you are taking is an inherently racist one because you are dismissing the position of someone on the basis of his skin color.

BOLDEN: No, I’m dismissing you because of your experience or lack thereof.

CARLSON: You know nothing of my experience.

BOLDEN: Have the police ever brutalized you? Wrongfully stopped you? Spread you on the ground?

CARLSON: Spare me, Mr. Million Dollar Lawyer, this talk!


Carlson believes that police brutality “needs to be addressed,” but thinks a “rich guy” like Bolden who like himself has benefited from this country is “disgusting” to call the country “rotten.”

“We live in two Americas,” Bolden responded. “One black and one white.”

“You live in my neighborhood I bet!” Carlson shouted. “Your cufflinks cost more than my first car! I’m not going to listen to this garbage.”

Carlson then pressed Bolden on what neighborhood he lives in and predicted that he sends his kids to private school.

“‘We live in two Americas’… Don’t give me this crap!” Carlson added.

I hope the bookers of Tucker’s show slips up and makes the mistake of inviting a black man on there.. Who’s not going take any kind of disrespect from that smug white supremacist...

I'd be happy with them just managing to get someone that could actually shut him down intellectually. Tucker said some ridiculous shit and this nigga leaned back and said "Hmmmmm."
 
atribecalledgabi;c-10014079 said:
People need to stop acting like sports and politics have never mixed before now. The two are inextricably tied. If you dont want politics in sports let's stop sending championship teams to the white house. Let's stop having the military and the national anthem play before games. Let's stop having ncaa basketball games played on navy ships. Let's stop letting politicians receive donations from athletes, coaches and owners. Let's stop having the Olympics. Lets stop putting logos on jerseys. Let's stop taking moments of silence. Let's stop running ads during games...politics in sports are fine then tho.

For whites maybe that is true. But it certainly isn't for Black folks. Jack Johnson, Jim Brown, Muhammed Ali, Bill Russel, Curt Flood, Jackie Robinson etc etc. This is how I know for sure that these cacs are racists. They don't give two shits about our Black ancestors\pioneers they want us to accept that ideas of white culture and history. Their history is not ours. Clearly.
 
The Lonious Monk;c-10014083 said:
I think the whole "keep politics out of it crowd" are the stupidest people involved. All these dudes are doing is kneeling for like 15 mins at the start of a 3 hour long event. It is easily ignored and should have absolutely no effect on their ability to enjoy the game at all. Why are they mad at the players? If they are mad about all of this interfering with their enjoyment, they should be mad at the people attacking the players and making this an issue.

True. But they also should be mad at advertisers, commercials, half time performances, cuts to sideline reporters and everything else that interferes with the game. They are simply deflecting.
 
All the people saying its a distraction and people won't get the point are the same people who would've said the Civil Rights protests weren't effective because they disrupted the public...and just like now you are hard pressed to find someone who will say they disagreed with the Civil Rights Movement in the future you're gonna be hard pressed to find someone who says they disagree the basic idea that police brutality disproportinaly affects black people and why they were against it
 
blackrain;c-10014118 said:
All the people saying its a distraction and people won't get the point are the same people who would've said the Civil Rights protests weren't effective because they disrupted the public...and just like now you are hard pressed to find someone who will say they disagreed with the Civil Rights Movement in the future you're gonna be hard pressed to find someone who says they disagree the basic idea that police brutality disproportinaly affects black people and why they were against it

real shit I was thinking this same thing. These are the same people that would've been like "look we get it, but rules are rules and you all need show some respect for rule of law and sit at the back of bus. There's a time and a place to protest but not when people are just trying to get to and from work."

Protests are always gonna be inconvenient..that's the point. A convenient protest is an ineffective one that's easily ignored. The most inappropriate time to exercise free speech is often when it's time to speak the loudest.
 

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