Colin Kaepernick refuses “to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses Black people”...

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inori;c-10011079 said:
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inori;c-10011046 said:
I have a real question tho...

back in the day it was easy to boycott businesses that don't have your peoples best interests in mind and let them feel the burn of not getting black dollars... my question is... how do we adapt that strategy???

I watched yesterday and I saw commercials for T-Mobile, headache medicine, insurance companies, beers... how the fuck do we navigate the terrain where you boycott one company thats owned by another company that supports the very same fuckery.

Hate to say it but I don't see muhfuckas on some "yeah... t-mobile is one of the NFL's biggest sponsors.. fuck them ima switch carriers!... I aint buying Excedrin no more... and fuck this noise... I'm switching my car insurance... and while i'm at it... I aint drinking this shitty beer anymore either!"

Seems like there's something else you'd like to say. Cut to the chase. What's your point?

As far as certain main utilities are concerned, phones, gas, electricity etc it's difficult to boycott as many of these are necessities. However, alcohol clothing, even certain brands of cars can be boycotted. I simply say research the company you are doing business with and make sure that their public stance aligns with yours.

Not really....I was just trying to figure out how folks could adapt accordingly on the boycott tip...

Ur absolutely right about main utilities being difficult... I was just looking for realistic solutions on how to effectively boycott while navigating companies owned by companies owned by companies.. It's so convoluted some folks might actively be boycotting while still patronizing the parent company without knowing it.

The "making a statement" is all well and good... Taking a stance is good.. but like it's been said in this thread countless times....the only language these folks understand is when you hit they pockets... I'm just trying to see what's the best way to do so

I don't think they understand that either. There are many business that do not value the Black dollar. That's why advertisement and marketing is still overwhelming geared to toward whites.

It doesn't matter what they understand. Blacks need to understand that whites as a whole are not our friends, adopting their culture and mores is toxic. We need to stand on our own, have some morals and pride in our own. We can stand in solidarity with whites who are willing to tell the truth about white supremacy and make an effort to show they genuinely support Black interests\issues.

You and I are in agreement for the most part.. which is why I was trying to get a better understanding of these businesses we all patronize.

A brotha/sista could be on some.. Yeah we boycotting all this surface shit.. not watching a football game or buying their shit is cool... but not realizing the advil we buy... the liquor we buy.. the cell phone bill we pay... the clothes we buy.. fuck... the toilet paper we buy is made by folks that are actively plotting against our best interests..

I was just trying to open a dialogue about how to appropriately navigate these waters is all.. Not a simple thing I know.. but I think it warrants discussion
 
inori;c-10011046 said:
I have a real question tho...

back in the day it was easy to boycott businesses that don't have your peoples best interests in mind and let them feel the burn of not getting black dollars... my question is... how do we adapt that strategy???

I watched yesterday and I saw commercials for T-Mobile, headache medicine, insurance companies, beers... how the fuck do we navigate the terrain where you boycott one company thats owned by another company that supports the very same fuckery.

Hate to say it but I don't see muhfuckas on some "yeah... t-mobile is one of the NFL's biggest sponsors.. fuck them ima switch carriers!... I aint buying Excedrin no more... and fuck this noise... I'm switching my car insurance... and while i'm at it... I aint drinking this shitty beer anymore either!"

Well every tactic is not the best for every circumstance. It's not they were just boycotting any business that hurt their feelings back in the day. They were specifically boycotting businesses and institutions that couldn't function without the black dollar. And in the cases of things like the transportation systems, the city makes money off of those things, so a boycott against them well be felt more universally than against some private corporation. In short, boycotts can still work, you just have to be strategic about how you employ them, and that's always been the case.
 
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D. Morgan;c-10011063 said:
inori;c-10011046 said:
I have a real question tho...

back in the day it was easy to boycott businesses that don't have your peoples best interests in mind and let them feel the burn of not getting black dollars... my question is... how do we adapt that strategy???

I watched yesterday and I saw commercials for T-Mobile, headache medicine, insurance companies, beers... how the fuck do we navigate the terrain where you boycott one company thats owned by another company that supports the very same fuckery.

Hate to say it but I don't see muhfuckas on some "yeah... t-mobile is one of the NFL's biggest sponsors.. fuck them ima switch carriers!... I aint buying Excedrin no more... and fuck this noise... I'm switching my car insurance... and while i'm at it... I aint drinking this shitty beer anymore either!"

You have to realize most people not willing to sacrifice for the change that they will tell you they are seeking.

Yeah. You have black people that see white supremacy at work, and they still choose to pick the cotton.

It's also like Cypher in the movie "The Matrix" who was going to betray his own team, just to get plugged back into the matrix knowing that it's not real. He rather deal with that than the reality that the human race is enslaved.
 


Sarah Sanders Defends Trump Remarks on ‘SOB’ Players: ‘Always Appropriate’ to Defend the Flag

Sarah Huckabee Sanders defended President Trump‘s comments about “SOB” NFL players kneeling during the national anthem.

Fox News’ John Roberts asked Sanders if the President went “too far” with that SOB remark in particular. Huckabee Sanders said, “I think that it’s always appropriate for the President of the United States to defend our flag, to defend the national anthem, and to defend the men and women who fought and died to defend it.”

NBC’s Peter Alexander brought up how Trump has tweeted more about the NFL than Puerto Rico, as well as asking what message it sends about him criticizing players exercising their First Amendment rights.

Huckabee Sanders again said that it’s “always appropriate” for the President to defend the flag and ask people to “respect it
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https://www.mediaite.com/tv/nbcs-ha...f-trump-has-a-problem-with-the-1st-amendment/

NBC’s Hallie Jackson Asks Huckabee Sanders If Trump Has ‘A Problem with the 1st Amendment’

During today’s press briefing, NBC’s Hallie Jackson pressed Sarah Huckabee Sanders on President Trump‘s criticisms of NFL players over the past few days.

Jackson noted how the President is meant to defend the Constitution and asked, “Does the President have a problem with the First Amendment?”


“Not at all,” Huckabee Sanders responded. “The President is simply stating that pride in our country is a good thing, it’s something that we should all celebrate.”

CNN’s Jim Acosta went next and asked if the President is trying to wage a “culture war.” Huckabee Sanders dismissed the idea and again said the President is talking about pride in our country.
 

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ABC’s Cecilia Vega to Sarah Sanders: Does Trump Think There Were ‘Very Fine People’ Kneeling?

Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders faced a really pointed question on Monday about why President Trump is doing more to attack National Anthem kneelers than he did to condemn the white supremacists responsible for the recent racial violence in Charlottesville.

Sanders faced a barrage of questions over Trump’s feud against various professional athletes, and she argued that president was all about defending the American flag when he referred to kneelers as sons of bitches. ABC’s Cecilia Vega eventually got a chance for a question, and she asked, “Does the president believe that there are ‘very fine people‘ who kneeled yesterday during those games, or are they all SOB’s?


Sanders accused Vega of conflating “two different things” and said Trump’s remarks weren’t made against anyone.

“We respect the rights people have, but we always need to focus,” Sanders said. “This is the president being for respect in our country through symbols like the American flag, like the National Anthem and the hundreds of thousands that actually stand versus the few hundred that may have knelt.”

Sanders continued to face questions about topics like whether Trump was derailing his political priorities with this feud, and how people like Colin Kaepernick have kneeled in order to make a statement against racism and injustice within the justice system.
 
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WH Spokeswoman: NFL Players Should Protest Police, Not The American Flag

In the first White House press briefing since President Donald Trump bashed NFL players who protest during the national anthem, Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders defended Trump and suggested protesting players find a new target.

“I think if the debate is really for them about police brutality, they should protest the officers on the field that are protecting them instead of the American flag,” Sanders told reporters at the White House.

That comment came after a reporter asked about a claim Sanders made earlier in the briefing that the “focus” of NFL players had “changed” from their original stated intent to protest police brutality.


Asked later if she was encouraging football players to protest the police, Sanders said she was not.

“That’s not what I’m saying,” Sanders insisted. “I was kind of pointing out the hypocrisy of the fact that if the goal is and the message is that of police brutality, which they’ve stated, then that doesn’t seem very appropriate to protest the American flag. I’m not sure how those two things would be combined.”

The White House press secretary defended Trump’s decision to wade into the issue, arguing that far from being a distraction, it’s “always appropriate” for the President to defend the flag, the national anthem and those who protect the U.S.

“He’s emphasizing something that should be unifying,” Sanders said.

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Bill O’Reilly Slams NFL Commish Roger Goodell Over Protests: ‘You’re a Coward!’

Bill O’Reilly had a few choice words Monday for NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell on the subject of protests.

Appearing on SiriusXM’s The Wilkow Majority, the former Fox News primetime star claimed that Goodell and the league office refused to let the New York Giants wear a patch commemorating 9/11 on their sleeves. (He is appears to be mistaken in this, although the league did refuse to allow Tennessee Titans player Avery Williamson to wear special cleats to remember the victims of the 9/11 attacks in September 2016. Williamson and five others who wore the cleats that week were not fined.)

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stringer bell;c-10011314 said:
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WH Spokeswoman: NFL Players Should Protest Police, Not The American Flag

In the first White House press briefing since President Donald Trump bashed NFL players who protest during the national anthem, Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders defended Trump and suggested protesting players find a new target.

“I think if the debate is really for them about police brutality, they should protest the officers on the field that are protecting them instead of the American flag,” Sanders told reporters at the White House.

That comment came after a reporter asked about a claim Sanders made earlier in the briefing that the “focus” of NFL players had “changed” from their original stated intent to protest police brutality.


Asked later if she was encouraging football players to protest the police, Sanders said she was not.

“That’s not what I’m saying,” Sanders insisted. “I was kind of pointing out the hypocrisy of the fact that if the goal is and the message is that of police brutality, which they’ve stated, then that doesn’t seem very appropriate to protest the American flag. I’m not sure how those two things would be combined.”

The White House press secretary defended Trump’s decision to wade into the issue, arguing that far from being a distraction, it’s “always appropriate” for the President to defend the flag, the national anthem and those who protect the U.S.

“He’s emphasizing something that should be unifying,” Sanders said.

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So they really just going to ignore the fact that they made it about the flag huh? And where did the flag even come into this shit? The players are kneeling during the anthem. What does that have to do with flag? People talking like these dudes are on cam wiping their asses with the flag or something.
 
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NASCAR Touts Respect for National Anthem and the Right to ‘Peacefully Express’ Opinions in Statement

NASCAR put out a statement this afternoon hours after President Donald Trump praised them on Twitter

But this afternoon, NASCAR put out a statement both affirming their “respect for the national anthem” and for the right of people to “peacefully express” their opinions:
https://twitter.com/NASCAR/status/912358540974673921

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stringer bell;c-10011330 said:
https://www.mediaite.com/online/nascar-touts-respect-for-national-anthem-and-the-right-to-peacefully-express-opinions-in-statement/

NASCAR Touts Respect for National Anthem and the Right to ‘Peacefully Express’ Opinions in Statement

NASCAR put out a statement this afternoon hours after President Donald Trump praised them on Twitter

But this afternoon, NASCAR put out a statement both affirming their “respect for the national anthem” and for the right of people to “peacefully express” their opinions:
https://twitter.com/NASCAR/status/912358540974673921

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Backpedaling bitches

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