Colin Kaepernick refuses “to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses Black people”...

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VulcanRaven;c-10037294 said:
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VulcanRaven;c-10037228 said:
Even Wilbon is waking up...wow

Lol do you know who Wilbon is?

You saying I don't? That Sean Taylor comment left a bad taste in my mouth

Yeah he's never apologized for that shit either properly. Both him and Colin Cowherd burned alot of bridges in DC with that bullshit
 
blackrain;c-10037599 said:
VulcanRaven;c-10037294 said:
atribecalledgabi;c-10037285 said:
VulcanRaven;c-10037228 said:
Even Wilbon is waking up...wow

Lol do you know who Wilbon is?

You saying I don't? That Sean Taylor comment left a bad taste in my mouth

Yeah he's never apologized for that shit either properly. Both him and Colin Cowherd burned alot of bridges in DC with that bullshit

And Miami.
 
Shizlansky;c-10035053 said:
In the end Trump won.

Smh

Lol he focused on this instead of repealing Obamacare LOL

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This week has been annoying as hell. I'm on a work trip with a bunch of white Republican ex military CaCs. Do you know how many times I had to hear these CaCs off to the side saying slick shit about the NFL protests when they thought I was out of range. Dude literally talked to me about how much he loves the NFL and enjoyed the SNF game only to go down the hall and tell a bunch of dudes he could barely watch the NFL anymore because of the players and how they all needed to be kicked out of the league. These CaCs ain't shit. The only saving grace is that there are a couple white dudes that are alright here. They roll their eyes just like me every time the rednecks get started.
 

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnns-an...who-died-and-made-you-the-judge-of-blackness/

Ana Navarro to Ben Ferguson: ‘Who Died and Made You the Judge of Blackness?’

Alisyn Camerota had the two conservative commentators start things off by asking for their thoughts about Eminem and his very viral slams against the president. Navarro defended the rapper for using his freedom of speech to rebuke Trump, though Ferguson thought Eminem was continuing a pattern of political opportunism in order to sell records.

The conversation continued to revolve around misogyny and hypocrisy as the three discussed whether the rapper’s past statements could be judged on the same standard as the president’s. Ferguson felt that the left is only embracing Eminem’s rough lyrics and subject matter because of his attacks on the president, though Navarro countered with “it is equally absurd for people to support a man who talked about grabbing women and get all holy roller when we talk the rapper.”

As the meltdown continued, Camerota tried to rein things in by moving the conversation towards Trump’s most recent comments about Colin Kaepernick and professional footballers who kneel for the national anthem. This eventually led to Ferguson calling Kapernick an attention-seeking “fraud” who disrespects America despite never voting or participating in other kinds of public demonstrations for his beliefs.

Navarro took issue with that, asking Ferguson “who died and made you the judge of blackness to tell Colin [Kaepernick] whether he voted or not allows him to have a political opinion?” From there, the two started fighting again about whether a person’s political perspective can only be defined by their voting records.
 
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...-meeting-national-anthem-comments-jerry-jones

Jerry Jones sought bad guy role, source says

FRISCO, Texas -- Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, in a meeting on Wednesday with players and coaches, said his stance on the national anthem protests was rooted in a desire to play the bad guy and deflect attention from the players, according to a source.

In the meeting, Jones sought to ensure that players also saw the bigger picture regarding the business side of the situation, including concerns over TV ratings and sponsors, the source said.

Some Cowboys players were frustrated by the recent comments from Jones, who took a knee and stood arm-in-arm with them prior to the playing of the national anthem before a game against the Arizona Cardinals on Sept. 25.

One player said Jones expected the Cowboys will continue to stand during the anthem. Another said the players had a better feeling for Jones' comments, because at first he wondered if Jones had turned against them, according to the source.

Jones, in the team meeting held after practice, also offered the players a chance to speak with him one-on-one, the source said. Players had been told to bring their concerns about Jones' comments to the meeting.

"It went well," Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott said of the of the meeting, while attending a promotional event later Wednesday. "I mean we ironed out everything that we needed to at this time."

Since Sunday, Jones has been outspoken regarding his stance that players must "not disrespect the flag" and that they must stand for the anthem or they will be benched.

Speaking on 105.3 The Fan in Dallas on Tuesday, Jones said the players could express themselves prior to the national anthem in a similar manner to how the team handled things before their game at Arizona. Prior to the playing of the anthem at that contest, players stood arm in arm with Jones, other front-office executives, coaches and staff and took a knee. During the anthem, they stood arm in arm.

In the two games since, the Cowboys have stood on the sideline as normal.

"If there's anything that is disrespectful to the flag, then we will not play," Jones said after Sunday's loss to the Green Bay Packers. "Understand? We will not ... if we are disrespecting the flag, then we will not play. Period."

Jones reiterated the stance on numerous occasions since. A local labor union has filed a complaint to the National Labor Relations Board against the Cowboys, claiming Jones' threats prevent allowable, "concerted activity" at work. The team and the NFL declined comment on the filing.

By the time the locker room opened to the media on Wednesday, a good portion of the players had headed to their cars. Because the Cowboys are on their bye, there are no post-practice meetings. Those who did speak were tight-lipped. Cornerback Orlando Scandrick, a captain, said "no comment," seven different times to questions about Jones' recent statements and the anthem controversy.


Place-kicker Dan Bailey, who also is a captain, serves as the Cowboys' representative to the NFL Players Association. He said there have been numerous conference calls with the players' association regarding the situation.

"I think my first responsibility is to listen and provide that forum for them, and then my next job is to relay that to the people that I talk to in that representation," Bailey said. "So in that forum, I'm more of just a middleman, be an ear here in the locker room and provide feedback to them. And then, like I said, we can have the discussion amongst all the teams as far as that goes."

Bailey said the team's focus did not appear to be affected Wednesday.

"I think, from my position, the status quo is the same," Bailey said. "We come in every day to work and our focus is on practice and trying to win ballgames. So in that sense, yeah, I think we're definitely a unified group."

As the media entered the locker room on Wednesday, a song by YG and Nipsey Hussle came through Scandrick's wireless speakers. It was an explicit rap song directed at President Donald Trump, whose comments regarding players standing for the national anthem or be fired triggered collective protests from teams all across the league, including the Cowboys.

"I was listening to my music," Scandrick said. "I like that YG song."


Meanwhile, Lions safety Glover Quin, who is Detroit's union representative, said that when the NFLPA responds to Jones' remarks, it won't be ambiguous.

"The message will be put out," Quin said. "The message, it will be out. Clearly."

Time for everybody to move on Massa Jerry Jones was just playing the slave owner “bad guy” role.. So the players could see the big picture about ratings and sponsors.. I’m sure Trump calling him and begging him to help him look good had nothing to do with the things he said at all...
 
Sounds like Jerry Jones believes that the players would only protest because of peer or community pressure, not because they in good conscience object to the circumstances that are being protesting.

My question is, if he sincerely believes that, how in the hell did he come to believe it? It's gotta be because of the black Cowboy players. At the very least, they have failed to convey to him that they really care about these issues.

These most recent comments are not a good look for the black Cowboy players.
 
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...llas-cowboys-players-national-anthem-comments

Garrett: Jones' talk with Cowboys out of 'love'

FRISCO, Texas -- While Jerry Jones told Dallas Cowboys players in a meeting Wednesday that they must stand for the national anthem to show respect for the flag, coach Jason Garrett said the intention of the session came from the owner's "love, admiration and respect for the players."

After telling reporters Sunday that a player would be benched if he did not stand for the anthem, Jones again made that point to the Cowboys' players Wednesday, adding context as to why it is important they stand.

In addition to Jones' personal beliefs, a source said Jones mentioned television ratings and sponsorships that ultimately affect the players as well. According to Garrett, Jones wanted to provide the players "some avenues to help make the impact of the issues that we're most concerned about."

"He's very sensitive to some of the issues, as we all are, that the players are talking about," Garrett said. "We all want to make an impact, and he's someone that can help the players do that. He wanted to make sure they knew that."

Quarterback Dak Prescott said Wednesday night that the meeting went well.

"I mean, we ironed out everything that we needed at this time," Prescott said.


All-Pro center Travis Frederick spoke Thursday about how the dialogue between the players has been productive and that teammates are listening to each other because of the sacrifices they make together in playing the sport.

He said the challenge is transferring the dialogue from the locker room to the public to raise the level of discussion beyond who is right or wrong.

"That, I think, is where that gap is, and we need to figure that out as players and as an organization, but also the public kind of needs to work on that too," Frederick said. "Like I said, it's a divisive issue, and there's lots of things in this world that are divisive, and unfortunately this has become a spotlight thing. And that's not what. ... I'm not trying to do.

"I'm here to play football, and I'm here to do my job, so I think hopefully there will be some things coming up through the pipeline to kind of make the awareness of the issue better and take it away from the game itself and people can have their opinions heard. But, as of right now, I don't know specifically what those things are."

Prior to their Sept. 25 game at the Arizona Cardinals, the Cowboys followed Jones' lead in locking arms during pregame introductions, taking a knee before the anthem and then standing arm in arm during the anthem.

Free-agent quarterback Colin Kaepernick gained national attention last season when he kneeled during the national anthem to protest social injustice and police brutality.

In two games since, the Cowboys have stood for the anthem like they always have. Defensive linemen Damontre Moore and David Irving raised their fists at the end of the anthem prior to the Green Bay game. Garrett spoke to both players Monday and said neither would be disciplined.

Speaking on 105.3 The Fan in Dallas on Tuesday, Jones said the players could still show a sign of protest as long as it was before the anthem.

"There's no question that it's a complex issue, and that's why it continues to be in the forefront in a lot of ways," Garrett said. "I think the biggest thing that we've tried to emphasize to our players is, the goal is to make an impact in the community. The goal is to make an impact on what the issues are. I think it's important to identify the issues and identify the way you can make an impact. I think that was part of Mr. Jones' message yesterday."


The Cowboys are holding their final practice of the bye week and will return to The Star on Tuesday. Garrett said the timing of the bye allowed the Cowboys more time to discuss the issue, but when the team returns to practice, the focus needs to be on football.

"I think like a lot of things in life, a lot of people say, 'just focus on football,'" Garrett said. "But as we all know in our lives, there's a lot of other things going on in our lives. So, sometimes as a player, a coach, as a football team, you have to focus on this particular thing to address it, to solve it, to move on, so you can get back to the business of football. And that happens with our players and our coaches each and every day -- situations they have with their families, whether they're health concerns or some of the off-field issues that we all deal with in our lives.

"Sometimes you have to focus on those things so you can get back to the business of focusing on football. I think our team's done a really good job on that."

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http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/10/...ility-to-require-players-to-stand-for-anthem/

49ers safety disputes whether NFL has ability to require players to stand for anthem

SANTA CLARA — 49ers safety Eric Reid believes any potential amendment to NFL rules that would require players to stand for the national anthem would have to be negotiated with the players association.

NFL owners are reportedly planning to discuss the issue at their scheduled fall meeting next week. At present, the league’s policy only encourages players to stand for the anthem.

“As far as I know, that would have to be something that’s collectively bargained,” Reid said Wednesday when asked about a potential vote by the owners. “I’m not sure if they can do that, but I guess we’ll find out soon.”

As first reported by ESPN on Tuesday, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell sent a letter to all 32 teams saying in part that, “Like many of our fans, we believe that everyone should stand for the National Anthem. It is an important moment in our game. We want to honor our flag and our country, and our fans expect that of us.

“We also care deeply about our players and respect their opinions and concerns about critical social issues. The controversy over the Anthem is a barrier to having honest conversations and making real progress on the underlying issues. We need to move past this controversy, and we want to do that together with our players.”

Some NFL owners showed solidarity with players in one form or another the weekend of Sept. 24, two days after explosive comments by Trump, who used inflammatory language and said owners should fire players who do not stand for the anthem.

Reid said he’s had discussions with 49ers owner Jed York “and he’s expressed very clearly that that he wants to support us, that he’s not going to force us to do anything.

“Speaking for our team, that’s what he’s told me explicitly.”

Reid did not know if York had told other 49ers players the same thing. Pressure has escalated from the White House and President Donald Trump, who tweeted Wednesday “It is about time that Roger Goodell of the NFL is finally demanding that all players STAND for our great National Anthem-RESPECT OUR COUNTRY”

A league spokesman told NFL.com on Wednesday that it has no plans to mandate players stand for the national anthem, adding that “commentary this morning about the Commissioner’s position on the Anthem is not accurate. The NFL is doing the hard work of trying to move from protest to progress, working to bring people together.”

Reid has consistently said his and the actions of other NFL players’ are not meant to disrespect the anthem, the flag or the U.S. military, but feel that the message has been distorted.

“I was hoping that it wasn’t,” going to shift the tone of the conversation, Reid said, “but I guess, they said it was going to be a one week thing when they did it. I expected it.”

The emotionally charged issue has been brewing for more than a year when it was noticed that former 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick sat down for the national anthem in a preseason game last August to raise awareness of police brutality and racial injustice.

The following week, Kaepernick was joined by Reid and Eli Harold as all three players took a knee during the anthem. Reid was deeply affected by the shooting death of Alton Sterling by police in his hometown of Baton Rouge, Louisiana.

Before Sunday’s game against the Colts in Indianapolis, 23 players knelt on the 49ers sideline while all the Colts players stood and locked arms during the anthem. That prompted Vice President Mike Pence to quickly leave Sunday’s game, which Reid dismissed as a publicity stunt.

“I think we are reaching people, and there’s another handful of people who chose not to hear us. Those people, you can’t change their mind — they’ll never listen to you, you’ll never win with them,” Reid told this newspaper after the 49ers’ 26-23 overtime loss, in which he didn’t play because of a PCL injury.

“We just need to keep the conversation going. When an opportunity presents itself to elect somebody into office at the state and national level, then we have to take advantage of those opportunities and put people in place who are going to do what we need done to fix these issues.”

The week before the game against the Colts, the 49ers put forth a new demonstration in which 30 players knelt and others stood behind them with hands on the shoulders of those kneeling. The 49ers ownership has supported players’ rights to protest since last season.

No 49ers knelt during the national anthem of the first two exhibitions. But then Reid resumed kneeling and about 10 teammates stood around him in support before the more team-wide demonstration two weeks ago.
 

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