CNN's Don Lemon goes full on Coon. O’Reilly:‘He Doesn’t Go Far Enough’ In Criticizing Black Culture"

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Ajackson17;6105706 said:
This is not the reason why black people won't progress and they are progressing you dumb shit. People are so dumb and they lack education, history, politics, economics, systems, government, and etc to realize this issue is deeper than what Don Lemon said which was all said in this post. Explain why these people who have pulled their pants up, not making children out of wedlock, do not sell drugs, have degrees, have manners and respect but having a harder time than their white counterparts to find a job even with more experience.

A white man with a criminal record has more of a chance than a educated black man with no record at all to getting a job before him.
And you wondering why blacks are not doing well, good god you lack critical thinking.

prime example of this is our last 2 presidents..

bush was dumb and WE ALL KNEW THIS..

now look at Obama. u cant find 1 quote that he has said that makes him look retarded as hell..

there was a damn 4 ft poster in spencers full of " bushisums"..

they both have held the same job gonna hold it 4 the same amount of time yet bush has a record... I haven't heard 1 negative thing about Obama outside of him smoking weed in college or some shyt..
 
manofmorehouse;6105885 said:
Are you arguing that talking or acting in an articulate way is in some way less black than talking and acting urban?? That is a real question. If that is what you are arguing, my question to you is what does it mean to be black in America?? A large part of our Black identity in America has been molded by White culture, whether you like it or not. Fact is many Black kids get their fashion tips from rappers.

Another fact is that many of these rappers get their personas from white executives that feel they know how to market to black consumers. Hell, you have black chicks right now that model their whole wardrobe after Nikki Minaj - a chick that considers herself "Barbie" smh.

I agree that people keep trying to make this a White issue, which is unfortunate, but if that's what we're going to do, lets address it. I believe White people are innately racist, period. I don't believe that there is a white person in this world that, when faced with the fear of truly being equivalent to blacks, wont revert to racist ways. With that said, fuck them! Now, how do WE go about addressing OUR problems?? That's what I got from Lemon's statements. You can disagree, but as another poster stated, consistently flagging posts you don't agree with discourages positive dialogue

My post had nothing to do with flagging. I only flag obvious trolls.

I'm not talking about articulation per se. The problem IMO is people perceiving anything that has to do with black culture as "bad" or "thuggish" and the closer you act to how the majority acts is better. We're all individuals are we not?

I will not even consider don lemon's comments credible because he addressed sagging pants. It's fashion, not the key to unlocking racial problems. Also, bill orielly addressed "our" problems and acted like he gave a shit and knew some immediate fix and cause, and he consigned him? No I will not act like that man is worth listening to, if you will, that's your choice.

 
MrsWest;6105931 said:
manofmorehouse;6105885 said:
Are you arguing that talking or acting in an articulate way is in some way less black than talking and acting urban?? That is a real question. If that is what you are arguing, my question to you is what does it mean to be black in America?? A large part of our Black identity in America has been molded by White culture, whether you like it or not. Fact is many Black kids get their fashion tips from rappers.

Another fact is that many of these rappers get their personas from white executives that feel they know how to market to black consumers. Hell, you have black chicks right now that model their whole wardrobe after Nikki Minaj - a chick that considers herself "Barbie" smh.

I agree that people keep trying to make this a White issue, which is unfortunate, but if that's what we're going to do, lets address it. I believe White people are innately racist, period. I don't believe that there is a white person in this world that, when faced with the fear of truly being equivalent to blacks, wont revert to racist ways. With that said, fuck them! Now, how do WE go about addressing OUR problems?? That's what I got from Lemon's statements. You can disagree, but as another poster stated, consistently flagging posts you don't agree with discourages positive dialogue

My post had nothing to do with flagging. I only flag obvious trolls.

I'm not talking about articulation per se. The problem IMO is people perceiving anything that has to do with black culture as "bad" or "thuggish" and the closer you act to how the majority acts is better. We're all individuals are we not?

I will not even consider don lemon's comments credible because he addressed sagging pants. It's fashion, not the key to unlocking racial problems. Also, bill orielly addressed "our" problems and acted like he gave a shit and knew some immediate fix and cause, and he consigned him? No I will not act like that man is worth listening to, if you will, that's your choice.

I don't like Bill O'Reilly either. I think his bread and butter is stirring up controversial issues and playing up White fear and anger. But you don't think he has a point?? Honestly, I think what Bill said in the Don Lemon clip was less controversial than Lemon's. Would it have made a difference if this opinion came from Farrakhan?

Speaking of which, doesn't the Fruit of Islam say pretty much the same thing?? That we as African Americans should dress and speak and act in a certain manner? Surely you wouldn't suggest that they're pandering to Whites, right?
 
Ajackson17;6105988 said:
Why the hate for lupe?

let's see

Well

This is Lupe at his best

'You niggas need to cut that shit out. Y'all need get all this knowledge I got. There's a reason I'm nothing like you niggas. Yea I grew up in the hood. But I'm not one of you niggas'

This is Lupe at his worst

'Ay you niggas stop being niggas'

'Hold up let me throw a tantrum on the floor about the music business'

*throws a fit like he's prince but doesn't take the same stance as prince did because he knows bills need to be paid*

*gets up*

'So like I was saying you niggas need to be less nigga like. Don't question me on this. I know 3 types of karate. Regular karate. Enlightened karate. And annoy the fuck out of you karate"

 
obnoxiouslyfresh;6103413 said:
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I wish I was smart enough to say that shit. I'd say that shit!


Michael Eric Dyson going in again.. This time Don Lemon catches some ether...
 
usmarin3;6105975 said:
Don Lemon should be the last person who should talk about assimilating, especially being a gay man.

you should be the second to last man speaking about assimilating.. beinga gay marine and a white friendly beerpong playing hootie and the blowfish ass nigga
 
manofmorehouse;6106019 said:
MrsWest;6105931 said:
manofmorehouse;6105885 said:
Are you arguing that talking or acting in an articulate way is in some way less black than talking and acting urban?? That is a real question. If that is what you are arguing, my question to you is what does it mean to be black in America?? A large part of our Black identity in America has been molded by White culture, whether you like it or not. Fact is many Black kids get their fashion tips from rappers.

Another fact is that many of these rappers get their personas from white executives that feel they know how to market to black consumers. Hell, you have black chicks right now that model their whole wardrobe after Nikki Minaj - a chick that considers herself "Barbie" smh.

I agree that people keep trying to make this a White issue, which is unfortunate, but if that's what we're going to do, lets address it. I believe White people are innately racist, period. I don't believe that there is a white person in this world that, when faced with the fear of truly being equivalent to blacks, wont revert to racist ways. With that said, fuck them! Now, how do WE go about addressing OUR problems?? That's what I got from Lemon's statements. You can disagree, but as another poster stated, consistently flagging posts you don't agree with discourages positive dialogue

My post had nothing to do with flagging. I only flag obvious trolls.

I'm not talking about articulation per se. The problem IMO is people perceiving anything that has to do with black culture as "bad" or "thuggish" and the closer you act to how the majority acts is better. We're all individuals are we not?

I will not even consider don lemon's comments credible because he addressed sagging pants. It's fashion, not the key to unlocking racial problems. Also, bill orielly addressed "our" problems and acted like he gave a shit and knew some immediate fix and cause, and he consigned him? No I will not act like that man is worth listening to, if you will, that's your choice.

I don't like Bill O'Reilly either. I think his bread and butter is stirring up controversial issues and playing up White fear and anger. But you don't think he has a point?? Honestly, I think what Bill said in the Don Lemon clip was less controversial than Lemon's. Would it have made a difference if this opinion came from Farrakhan?

Speaking of which, doesn't the Fruit of Islam say pretty much the same thing?? That we as African Americans should dress and speak and act in a certain manner? Surely you wouldn't suggest that they're pandering to Whites, right?

I don't know much about Islam.

Do I think that bill orielly has a point???? Hell no.

 
Ioniz3dSPIRITZ;6104264 said:
I have been out of the loop for a minute and I see this thread has really done numbers. It appears that the general consensus around here is that Don Lemon is a coon and Bill O'Reilly is an old racist. I'm neither going to add to these assertions or deconstruct them. However, if both men were critiqued on their opinions alone I don't think any rational person could find what they said any more offensive than what is recited in some of these rap songs. Shouldn't the rappers who constantly put forth lyrics that degrade black women and perpetuate black death be vilified by us as well? Should we not call out the ratchet black women on Love and HipHop and basketball wives who breathe fresh air into old stereotypes? Should we not call out the television show Scandal, in which a black women plays the stereotypical "bed wench" for some white man? Good enough to fuck but never to marry. Are these individuals not moon shine, buck dancing "coons" as well?

I know these are all example from the entertainment industry but based on some of the responses, a lot of you aren't upset at what Don Lemon actually said. You guys upset that he said it on CNN in front a predominately white audience. A lot of us disliked it only perpetuated the negative stereotypes that many whites have about us. But considering the various depictions of us engaging in debauchery already, I doubt what he said had much effect.

I can take this point even further by pointing out the politicians who use our votes to get in office but are quick to dismiss any of our concerns when they get in office. Or what about the preachers who can build a mega million dollar church in the middle of the hood surrounded by abandon houses and buildings. What about the young bastard sons of single mothers who shoot up a neighborhood striking the innocent five year old playing on his bicycle? Are they not coons? Are the not sellouts?

Don Lemon may be a pompous coon but what is put forth by the very same people we embraced is far more harmful to our image as a people than anything he can say.

Smh...

Art is a representation of society. So instead of breaking the mirror, we need to take a look at american soceity as a whole. There are large segments of the "white culture" that degrade women and glorify violence. That's no coincidence

And not all rap music is bad.... I dunno about you but the majority of blk people I know hate mainstream rap and don't buy the music...not to mention the recent protest against lil wayne and rick ross for some of their lyrics

Also there are blks who want to showcase blks in a positive light, they just don't have an avenue to do so. And don't say its because there isn't an audience. shit just isn't true. The channel TV1 draws large audiences. Sundays Best a show on BET is one of their highest rated. And Tyler Perry's shows are some of the highest rated on TBS, OWN. Say what you want about TP but his shows champion family values, marriage and black love. so the assertion that the majority of blks embrace this culture of immorality, violence, and hedonism has no basis in fact whatsoever

With that said for the average non-black person to hear a popular black news anchor on a respected news network to voice the same sentiments as a Bill O'Rielly is big and his actions should be condemned... further pushes this message that the blame for oppression lies with the oppressed...and the onus on us to change to ‘earn’ basic rights and privileges that are extended to other races, no matter if their shortcomings

Heres some excerpts from an article stopitfive posted that I think u should read, it sums up perfectly why lemons comments are so off base and offensive:

Don Lemon holds so tightly to the myth of black moral and cultural deficiency that he completely missed the absurdity of prescribing the abandonment of sagging pants and use of "the N word" as an antidote to the governmental divestment from black communities that results in failing school systems and unchecked mass incarceration. Lemon's comfort in delivering half truths illustrates the deep commitment many feel to perpetuating a single narrative on blackness without regard to facts.

Marriage patterns are tied closely to education and income. If Lemon and his cohort dared to look closely at the figures, they'd find poverty is the cause not the consequence. Respectable Black Saviors speak of the prevalence of violence and unwed mothers but never care to learn the stories behind the statistics. Instead of lashing out at white supremacy, the root of structural inequality, they incessantly reference malignant blackness because, frankly, it's easier and they'll always have an audience.



http://www.forharriet.com/2013/07/don-lemon-and-middle-class-embrace-of.html

How r we goin to improve social equality in this country if we countinue to focus on the symptoms and not the disease

 
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While Blacks do have things we can improve upon as a "race" / "people", it needs to be recognized that a pillar of the white community has been the audacity and comfortability with criticizing and being uncomfortable / annoyed with Black people. THAT is the real problem, assimilation. The vast majority of White's criticisms of Blacks are essentially what would make us more acceptable to them, which should not be our priority, or even a concern of ours, at all.

Dom Lemon isn't wrong in wanting Blacks to do better, but he is wrong in Why he wants us to do better. He's a turn coat ass nigga, who probably unknowingly equates successfulness to assimilation, and for that, he shouldn't be taken seriously.
 
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BEAM;6106318 said:
While Blacks do have things we can improve upon as a "race" / "people", it needs to be recognized that a pillar of the white community has been the audacity and comfortability with criticizing and being uncomfortable / annoyed with Black people. THAT is the real problem, assimilation. The vast majority of White's criticisms of Blacks are essentially what would make us more acceptable to them, which should not be our priority, or even a concern of ours, at all.

Dom Lemon isn't wrong in wanting Blacks to do better, but he is wrong in Why he wants us to do better. He's a turn coat ass nigga, who probably unknowingly successfulness to assimilation, and for that, he shouldn't be taken seriously.

Whatup fam its been a while...

wholeheartedly agree.. especially on your point about assimilation.. its a negative anyhow aside from the fact of trying to be more like.. and losing self.. you can assimilate your skin and their perception of black.... I dont think any minorities should fully assimilate
 
desertrain10;6106276 said:
Ioniz3dSPIRITZ;6104264 said:
I have been out of the loop for a minute and I see this thread has really done numbers. It appears that the general consensus around here is that Don Lemon is a coon and Bill O'Reilly is an old racist. I'm neither going to add to these assertions or deconstruct them. However, if both men were critiqued on their opinions alone I don't think any rational person could find what they said any more offensive than what is recited in some of these rap songs. Shouldn't the rappers who constantly put forth lyrics that degrade black women and perpetuate black death be vilified by us as well? Should we not call out the ratchet black women on Love and HipHop and basketball wives who breathe fresh air into old stereotypes? Should we not call out the television show Scandal, in which a black women plays the stereotypical "bed wench" for some white man? Good enough to fuck but never to marry. Are these individuals not moon shine, buck dancing "coons" as well?

I know these are all example from the entertainment industry but based on some of the responses, a lot of you aren't upset at what Don Lemon actually said. You guys upset that he said it on CNN in front a predominately white audience. A lot of us disliked it only perpetuated the negative stereotypes that many whites have about us. But considering the various depictions of us engaging in debauchery already, I doubt what he said had much effect.

I can take this point even further by pointing out the politicians who use our votes to get in office but are quick to dismiss any of our concerns when they get in office. Or what about the preachers who can build a mega million dollar church in the middle of the hood surrounded by abandon houses and buildings. What about the young bastard sons of single mothers who shoot up a neighborhood striking the innocent five year old playing on his bicycle? Are they not coons? Are the not sellouts?

Don Lemon may be a pompous coon but what is put forth by the very same people we embraced is far more harmful to our image as a people than anything he can say.

Smh...

Art is a representation of society. So instead of breaking the mirror, we need to take a look at american soceity as a whole. I can find hints of homophobia, sexism, calls for violence in rock lyrics, "white" shows, movies as well. Thats no coincidence

And not all rap music is bad. I dunno about you but the majority of blk people I know hate mainstream rap music and dont buy the music...

Also there are blks who do are making or want to make wholesome family friendly entertainment they just dont have a platform or the capital because of their skin color. And dont say there isnt an audience. Sundays Best a show on BET is one of their highest rated....

With that said for the average non-black person to hear a popular black news anchor on a respected news network to voice the same sentiments as a Bill O'Rielly is big and his actions should be condemned... further pushes this message that the blame for oppression lies with the oppressed...and the onus on us to change to ‘earn’ basic rights and privileges that are extended to other races, no matter if their shortcomings

Heres some excerpts from an article stopitfive posted that I think u should read it sums up perfectly why some blks took offense to lemons comments:

Don Lemon holds so tightly to the myth of black moral and cultural deficiency that he completely missed the absurdity of prescribing the abandonment of sagging pants and use of "the N word" as an antidote to the governmental divestment from black communities that results in failing school systems and unchecked mass incarceration. Lemon's comfort in delivering half truths illustrates the deep commitment many feel to perpetuating a single narrative on blackness without regard to facts.

Marriage patterns are tied closely to education and income. If Lemon and his cohort dared to look closely at the figures, they'd find poverty is the cause not the consequence. Respectable Black Saviors speak of the prevalence of violence and unwed mothers but never care to learn the stories behind the statistics. Instead of lashing out at white supremacy, the root of structural inequality, they incessantly reference malignant blackness because, frankly, it's easier and they'll always have an audience.


http://www.forharriet.com/2013/07/don-lemon-and-middle-class-embrace-of.html

How r we goin to improve social equality in this country if we countinue to focus on the symptoms and not the disease

Your whole argument is based on the notion that we bear absolutely NONE of the blame for our own condition. And instead of trying to fix the problems that we have the power fix, it would be more logical to wait on the greater white establishment to invoke the social equality that we've been fighting for all these years.

Last time I checked blacks make up more than 12% of the population and have over a trillion dollars in spending power. We have the capacity to change ourselves and our communities without any help of the government.

 
MrsWest;6105735 said:
Halfabrick;6105672 said:
Ajackson17;6105667 said:
Don lemon lacks critical thinking skills as well and most of white america.

lol at you flagging me. Black people do lack critical thinking skills and this is a FACT. We all know what crack and other drugs did to the black communities yet you have people of power in the black community glorifying selling using drugs everyday. I see people bitch about how the drug laws are tough but yet black people cannot stop selling the shit

You do know most everyday black people aren't in the entertainment industry or drug dealers or criminals right? You do know that most black people EARN a living right? There are people of all races who lack critical thinking skills, and the problem is that people can lump all black people in one category over and over and get away with it. Why are we all under the same fucking umbrella? Skin color determines the ability to think critically? So melanin determines that? And that's a "fact"? Stop it.

righttttt lol

and even though all this true, blk americans still are disproportionately affected by food insecurity, natural disasters, environmental pollution, disease, blk students are disproportionately placed in special education classes, etc.... and i could go on and on

yet people still want to put all the onus on blk people and turn a blind eye to the government polices that continue to perpetuate these inequalities

 
Ioniz3dSPIRITZ;6106440 said:
desertrain10;6106276 said:
Ioniz3dSPIRITZ;6104264 said:
I have been out of the loop for a minute and I see this thread has really done numbers. It appears that the general consensus around here is that Don Lemon is a coon and Bill O'Reilly is an old racist. I'm neither going to add to these assertions or deconstruct them. However, if both men were critiqued on their opinions alone I don't think any rational person could find what they said any more offensive than what is recited in some of these rap songs. Shouldn't the rappers who constantly put forth lyrics that degrade black women and perpetuate black death be vilified by us as well? Should we not call out the ratchet black women on Love and HipHop and basketball wives who breathe fresh air into old stereotypes? Should we not call out the television show Scandal, in which a black women plays the stereotypical "bed wench" for some white man? Good enough to fuck but never to marry. Are these individuals not moon shine, buck dancing "coons" as well?

I know these are all example from the entertainment industry but based on some of the responses, a lot of you aren't upset at what Don Lemon actually said. You guys upset that he said it on CNN in front a predominately white audience. A lot of us disliked it only perpetuated the negative stereotypes that many whites have about us. But considering the various depictions of us engaging in debauchery already, I doubt what he said had much effect.

I can take this point even further by pointing out the politicians who use our votes to get in office but are quick to dismiss any of our concerns when they get in office. Or what about the preachers who can build a mega million dollar church in the middle of the hood surrounded by abandon houses and buildings. What about the young bastard sons of single mothers who shoot up a neighborhood striking the innocent five year old playing on his bicycle? Are they not coons? Are the not sellouts?

Don Lemon may be a pompous coon but what is put forth by the very same people we embraced is far more harmful to our image as a people than anything he can say.

Smh...

Art is a representation of society. So instead of breaking the mirror, we need to take a look at american soceity as a whole. I can find hints of homophobia, sexism, calls for violence in rock lyrics, "white" shows, movies as well. Thats no coincidence

And not all rap music is bad. I dunno about you but the majority of blk people I know hate mainstream rap music and dont buy the music...

Also there are blks who do are making or want to make wholesome family friendly entertainment they just dont have a platform or the capital because of their skin color. And dont say there isnt an audience. Sundays Best a show on BET is one of their highest rated....

With that said for the average non-black person to hear a popular black news anchor on a respected news network to voice the same sentiments as a Bill O'Rielly is big and his actions should be condemned... further pushes this message that the blame for oppression lies with the oppressed...and the onus on us to change to ‘earn’ basic rights and privileges that are extended to other races, no matter if their shortcomings

Heres some excerpts from an article stopitfive posted that I think u should read it sums up perfectly why some blks took offense to lemons comments:

Don Lemon holds so tightly to the myth of black moral and cultural deficiency that he completely missed the absurdity of prescribing the abandonment of sagging pants and use of "the N word" as an antidote to the governmental divestment from black communities that results in failing school systems and unchecked mass incarceration. Lemon's comfort in delivering half truths illustrates the deep commitment many feel to perpetuating a single narrative on blackness without regard to facts.

Marriage patterns are tied closely to education and income. If Lemon and his cohort dared to look closely at the figures, they'd find poverty is the cause not the consequence. Respectable Black Saviors speak of the prevalence of violence and unwed mothers but never care to learn the stories behind the statistics. Instead of lashing out at white supremacy, the root of structural inequality, they incessantly reference malignant blackness because, frankly, it's easier and they'll always have an audience.


http://www.forharriet.com/2013/07/don-lemon-and-middle-class-embrace-of.html

How r we goin to improve social equality in this country if we countinue to focus on the symptoms and not the disease

Your whole argument is based on the notion that we bear absolutely NONE of the blame for our own condition. And instead of trying to fix the problems that we have the power fix, it would be more logical to wait on the greater white establishment to invoke the social equality that we've been fighting for all these years.

Last time I checked blacks make up more than 12% of the population and have over a trillion dollars in spending power. We have the capacity to change ourselves and our communities without any help of the government.

although the bolded is true in theory its not that easy..

the money we spend as consumers is a lot... but its impossible 2 keep that money 2 ourselves... some where down the line we will have 2 cross race lines 2 do business..
 
damobb2deep;6106495 said:
Ioniz3dSPIRITZ;6106440 said:
desertrain10;6106276 said:
Ioniz3dSPIRITZ;6104264 said:
I have been out of the loop for a minute and I see this thread has really done numbers. It appears that the general consensus around here is that Don Lemon is a coon and Bill O'Reilly is an old racist. I'm neither going to add to these assertions or deconstruct them. However, if both men were critiqued on their opinions alone I don't think any rational person could find what they said any more offensive than what is recited in some of these rap songs. Shouldn't the rappers who constantly put forth lyrics that degrade black women and perpetuate black death be vilified by us as well? Should we not call out the ratchet black women on Love and HipHop and basketball wives who breathe fresh air into old stereotypes? Should we not call out the television show Scandal, in which a black women plays the stereotypical "bed wench" for some white man? Good enough to fuck but never to marry. Are these individuals not moon shine, buck dancing "coons" as well?

I know these are all example from the entertainment industry but based on some of the responses, a lot of you aren't upset at what Don Lemon actually said. You guys upset that he said it on CNN in front a predominately white audience. A lot of us disliked it only perpetuated the negative stereotypes that many whites have about us. But considering the various depictions of us engaging in debauchery already, I doubt what he said had much effect.

I can take this point even further by pointing out the politicians who use our votes to get in office but are quick to dismiss any of our concerns when they get in office. Or what about the preachers who can build a mega million dollar church in the middle of the hood surrounded by abandon houses and buildings. What about the young bastard sons of single mothers who shoot up a neighborhood striking the innocent five year old playing on his bicycle? Are they not coons? Are the not sellouts?

Don Lemon may be a pompous coon but what is put forth by the very same people we embraced is far more harmful to our image as a people than anything he can say.

Smh...

Art is a representation of society. So instead of breaking the mirror, we need to take a look at american soceity as a whole. I can find hints of homophobia, sexism, calls for violence in rock lyrics, "white" shows, movies as well. Thats no coincidence

And not all rap music is bad. I dunno about you but the majority of blk people I know hate mainstream rap music and dont buy the music...

Also there are blks who do are making or want to make wholesome family friendly entertainment they just dont have a platform or the capital because of their skin color. And dont say there isnt an audience. Sundays Best a show on BET is one of their highest rated....

With that said for the average non-black person to hear a popular black news anchor on a respected news network to voice the same sentiments as a Bill O'Rielly is big and his actions should be condemned... further pushes this message that the blame for oppression lies with the oppressed...and the onus on us to change to ‘earn’ basic rights and privileges that are extended to other races, no matter if their shortcomings

Heres some excerpts from an article stopitfive posted that I think u should read it sums up perfectly why some blks took offense to lemons comments:

Don Lemon holds so tightly to the myth of black moral and cultural deficiency that he completely missed the absurdity of prescribing the abandonment of sagging pants and use of "the N word" as an antidote to the governmental divestment from black communities that results in failing school systems and unchecked mass incarceration. Lemon's comfort in delivering half truths illustrates the deep commitment many feel to perpetuating a single narrative on blackness without regard to facts.

Marriage patterns are tied closely to education and income. If Lemon and his cohort dared to look closely at the figures, they'd find poverty is the cause not the consequence. Respectable Black Saviors speak of the prevalence of violence and unwed mothers but never care to learn the stories behind the statistics. Instead of lashing out at white supremacy, the root of structural inequality, they incessantly reference malignant blackness because, frankly, it's easier and they'll always have an audience.


http://www.forharriet.com/2013/07/don-lemon-and-middle-class-embrace-of.html

How r we goin to improve social equality in this country if we countinue to focus on the symptoms and not the disease

Your whole argument is based on the notion that we bear absolutely NONE of the blame for our own condition. And instead of trying to fix the problems that we have the power fix, it would be more logical to wait on the greater white establishment to invoke the social equality that we've been fighting for all these years.

Last time I checked blacks make up more than 12% of the population and have over a trillion dollars in spending power. We have the capacity to change ourselves and our communities without any help of the government.

although the bolded is true in theory its not that easy..

the money we spend as consumers is a lot... but its impossible 2 keep that money 2 ourselves... some where down the line we will have 2 cross race lines 2 do business..

Jews were able to do it to build their collective wealth. Latinos also do this. We're the only ones that feel the need to depend on our oppressors for finances, education, and answers to OUR problems
 

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