CNN's Don Lemon goes full on Coon. O’Reilly:‘He Doesn’t Go Far Enough’ In Criticizing Black Culture"

[NoCompetition]

One black person owns a legal lawn care business or barbershop, etc. One sells illegal drugs. Everybody aint the same because of their "race" its socioeconomic. Address why some are poor and seem to have less access to resources and opportunities. Labeling it "black culture" only keeps it the largely ignored subject its been. Include all poor people and that will change the whole way people see it.

 

[rapmusic]

Dude aint lyin.. I wouldn't call him a coon.. But at the end of the day.. Some of the issue's he mentioned are not just black issues.. These things happen across all ethnicities.. Especially child birth out of wedlock..

Did he say they are "just black issues?"

Does that make the issues any less serious?

Can a person address the community he/she identifies with and is more likely to be concerned about b/c he/she cares?

If that person has the platform to speak on some stuff and have it reach the masses why not do it?

I am torn.. Maybe I am not paying attention.. But I dont see any other ethnicity or religious group.. Have one of their members get on TV in front of a national audience and point out everything that is wrong with that particular group... In front of everyone.. I am not sure thats the answer.. Why is it that blacks are the only ones that are scrutinized in such a manner?.. By not only outsiders but those within as well.. Shits all fucked up.. And there are many layers at play here..

that's what I'm saying. Honey Boo Boo be all on tv acting a fool and people just laugh at her and help her show get ratings so she can get money...meanwhile it seems like anytime a black person gets on tv with that bullshit, they seem to somehow let the whole race down. I think that slave mentality is somehow drilled in some black folks heads...people out here worrying more about what the white man might think moreso than their mom and shit. At the end of the day, Bill O'Reilly don't give a fuck, he's just doing what he does to get us to talk and watch his show and give him more ratings.. Don Lemon don't give a fuck because he's really trying to do the same thing Bill O'Reilly i doing.

 

[Ajackson17]

Lemon is a man who doesn't understand nothing. Degrees mean nothing when you become a god.

 

[MarcusGarvey]

Dude aint lyin.. I wouldn't call him a coon.. But at the end of the day.. Some of the issue's he mentioned are not just black issues.. These things happen across all ethnicities.. Especially child birth out of wedlock..

Did he say they are "just black issues?"

Does that make the issues any less serious?

Can a person address the community he/she identifies with and is more likely to be concerned about b/c he/she cares?

If that person has the platform to speak on some stuff and have it reach the masses why not do it?

I am torn.. Maybe I am not paying attention.. But I dont see any other ethnicity or religious group.. Have one of their members get on TV in front of a national audience and point out everything that is wrong with that particular group... In front of everyone.. I am not sure thats the answer.. Why is it that blacks are the only ones that are scrutinized in such a manner?.. By not only outsiders but those within as well.. Shits all fucked up.. And there are many layers at play here..

that's what I'm saying. Honey Boo Boo be all on tv acting a fool and people just laugh at her and help her show get ratings so she can get money...meanwhile it seems like anytime a black person gets on tv with that bullshit, they seem to somehow let the whole race down. I think that slave mentality is somehow drilled in some black folks heads...people out here worrying more about what the white man might think moreso than their mom and shit. At the end of the day, Bill O'Reilly don't give a fuck, he's just doing what he does to get us to talk and watch his show and give him more ratings.. Don Lemon don't give a fuck because he's really trying to do the same thing Bill O'Reilly i doing.

Media isn't an honest broker, I knew after the Trayvon Martin verdict they'd switch up the subject to make it look like Tray and those who look like him deserve white people's suspicion. Trust, black community has a lot to work on but the media don't give a fuck - they in the business of division and fear mongering. All that talking is intellectual masturbation, one side throws out fact "black on black crime" "crime is going down by x %" "blacks born out of wedlock", the next brings up racism, ratings go up and shit doesn't change for no one. Black people don't need O'Reilly's condemnation, we need to do for self.

 

[desertrain10]

ITS LIKE IF U HAVE A BOOGER IN YOUR NOSE...DO U WANT ME 2 BUST U OUT IN A CROWD AND BE LIKE , DDDDDDDAAAMMM NIGGA U GOT A BIG ASS BOOGER IN YOUR NOSE"

OR DO U WANT ME 2 PULL U 2 THE SIDE AND TELL U???

So now that you've been made aware that you have a snot boulder in your nose are you going to try and take care of the problem or focus on attacking the character of the person who "busted you out" while neglecting the booger problem?

NO, IM AM GOING TO SAY THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME KNOW AND ALSO FOR NOT BUSTIN ME OUT INFRONT OF HUNDRED/THOUSANDS OF FOLKS.. IN HOUSE PROBLEMS STAY IN HOUSE..DNT FRONT OR FLEX IN FRONT OF THE ENEMY

You're so concerned with the enemy. FUCK what they think. Unless we're devising a strategy to destroy them, FUCK what they hear. They don't give a fuck about you regardless. Their hate is already rooted deeply, even before taking into account the shit that's being discussed.

but building your whole existence on how to make "the enemy" accept you more is not caring what they think?

Who does that, or advocates that? Did you feel like Don Lemon's rant was a "do this so whites will accept you rant" or was it just his opinion?

where does his opinion come from tho. and what does how you dress have to do with whether you are deserving of basic human rights and respects. so if someone is sagging their pants or wearing hoodies, i can automatically disrespect them?

it came off to me as ways to make yourself more agreeable to whites, and my whole point is that there is nothing you can do to make yourself more agreeable to a racist

to be truly not bigoted you judge someone on their character not their appearance

Did he insinuate that one who dresses like that doesn't deserve basic rights?

His talking points are cliche and aren't well placed, which shows he may lack perspective. Those same points are often used by whites so I can see how one would suspect that he's saying "be more agreeable with whites" in an unintentionally veiled way.

If you look sloppy you'll be judged by everyone, not just whites. That doesn't mean people hate you because you sag, but they may find it distasteful to have your boxers exposed as they're halfway wedged in your cheek valley.

ITS LIKE IF U HAVE A BOOGER IN YOUR NOSE...DO U WANT ME 2 BUST U OUT IN A CROWD AND BE LIKE , DDDDDDDAAAMMM NIGGA U GOT A BIG ASS BOOGER IN YOUR NOSE"

OR DO U WANT ME 2 PULL U 2 THE SIDE AND TELL U???

So now that you've been made aware that you have a snot boulder in your nose are you going to try and take care of the problem or focus on attacking the character of the person who "busted you out" while neglecting the booger problem?

NO, IM AM GOING TO SAY THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME KNOW AND ALSO FOR NOT BUSTIN ME OUT INFRONT OF HUNDRED/THOUSANDS OF FOLKS.. IN HOUSE PROBLEMS STAY IN HOUSE..DNT FRONT OR FLEX IN FRONT OF THE ENEMY

You're so concerned with the enemy. FUCK what they think. Unless we're devising a strategy to destroy them, FUCK what they hear. They don't give a fuck about you regardless. Their hate is already rooted deeply, even before taking into account the shit that's being discussed.

but building your whole existence on how to make "the enemy" accept you more is not caring what they think?

Who does that, or advocates that? Did you feel like Don Lemon's rant was a "do this so whites will accept you rant" or was it just his opinion?

his opinion seems to be that blacks who sag their pants are the cause of all the ills in the community...

Really? I'm going to rewatch the video.

Basically with his "tough talk" lemon perpetuated long standing negative sterotypes whites have about blacks... concluding that blacks and black culture are the sole reason as to why the community is in the state that it is, and to fix our community blks essentially have to be perfect

And he did so without addressing the country’s history of institutional racism and systematic oppression

While totally ignoring the fact that the social ills he speaks of arent just a blk problem, but are rooted in poverty and economic inequality

Hence lemon now being labeled a coon

Unbeknowst to lemon and his supporters most blks including myself are hardworking, up standing people

 

[bootsy_jenkins]

That fudge packing son of a whore.

 

[1of1]

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ITS LIKE IF U HAVE A BOOGER IN YOUR NOSE...DO U WANT ME 2 BUST U OUT IN A CROWD AND BE LIKE , DDDDDDDAAAMMM NIGGA U GOT A BIG ASS BOOGER IN YOUR NOSE"

OR DO U WANT ME 2 PULL U 2 THE SIDE AND TELL U???

So now that you've been made aware that you have a snot boulder in your nose are you going to try and take care of the problem or focus on attacking the character of the person who "busted you out" while neglecting the booger problem?

NO, IM AM GOING TO SAY THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME KNOW AND ALSO FOR NOT BUSTIN ME OUT INFRONT OF HUNDRED/THOUSANDS OF FOLKS.. IN HOUSE PROBLEMS STAY IN HOUSE..DNT FRONT OR FLEX IN FRONT OF THE ENEMY

You're so concerned with the enemy. FUCK what they think. Unless we're devising a strategy to destroy them, FUCK what they hear. They don't give a fuck about you regardless. Their hate is already rooted deeply, even before taking into account the shit that's being discussed.

but building your whole existence on how to make "the enemy" accept you more is not caring what they think?

Who does that, or advocates that? Did you feel like Don Lemon's rant was a "do this so whites will accept you rant" or was it just his opinion?

where does his opinion come from tho. and what does how you dress have to do with whether you are deserving of basic human rights and respects. so if someone is sagging their pants or wearing hoodies, i can automatically disrespect them?

it came off to me as ways to make yourself more agreeable to whites, and my whole point is that there is nothing you can do to make yourself more agreeable to a racist

to be truly not bigoted you judge someone on their character not their appearance

Did he insinuate that one who dresses like that doesn't deserve basic rights?

His talking points are cliche and aren't well placed, which shows he may lack perspective. Those same points are often used by whites so I can see how one would suspect that he's saying "be more agreeable with whites" in an unintentionally veiled way.

If you look sloppy you'll be judged by everyone, not just whites. That doesn't mean people hate you because you sag, but they may find it distasteful to have your boxers exposed as they're halfway wedged in your cheek valley.

ITS LIKE IF U HAVE A BOOGER IN YOUR NOSE...DO U WANT ME 2 BUST U OUT IN A CROWD AND BE LIKE , DDDDDDDAAAMMM NIGGA U GOT A BIG ASS BOOGER IN YOUR NOSE"

OR DO U WANT ME 2 PULL U 2 THE SIDE AND TELL U???

So now that you've been made aware that you have a snot boulder in your nose are you going to try and take care of the problem or focus on attacking the character of the person who "busted you out" while neglecting the booger problem?

NO, IM AM GOING TO SAY THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME KNOW AND ALSO FOR NOT BUSTIN ME OUT INFRONT OF HUNDRED/THOUSANDS OF FOLKS.. IN HOUSE PROBLEMS STAY IN HOUSE..DNT FRONT OR FLEX IN FRONT OF THE ENEMY

You're so concerned with the enemy. FUCK what they think. Unless we're devising a strategy to destroy them, FUCK what they hear. They don't give a fuck about you regardless. Their hate is already rooted deeply, even before taking into account the shit that's being discussed.

but building your whole existence on how to make "the enemy" accept you more is not caring what they think?

Who does that, or advocates that? Did you feel like Don Lemon's rant was a "do this so whites will accept you rant" or was it just his opinion?

his opinion seems to be that blacks who sag their pants are the cause of all the ills in the community...

Really? I'm going to rewatch the video.

Basically with his "tough talk" lemon perpetuated long standing negative sterotypes whites have about blacks... concluding that blacks and black culture are the sole reason as to why the community is in the state that it is, and to fix our community blks essentially have to be perfect

And he did so without addressing the country’s history of institutional racism and systematic oppression

While totally ignoring the fact that the social ills he speaks of arent just a blk problem, but are rooted in poverty and economic inequality

Hence lemon now being labeled a coon

Unbeknowst to lemon and his supporters most blks including myself are hardworking, up standing people

So he didn't properly contextualize things, and he used the goto talking points that people of O'Reilly's ilk tend to ignorantly spew. He didn't delve deep enough into the root of the issues he feels plague blacks, and offer solutions that directly address the root problem.

That's a valid point and I agree with you and @havoc.

 

[Shuffington]

Not caping but Lemon stated that hes been discussing race issues every weekend for the past 4 or 5 weeks. Apparently, this week was "tough love" weekend.

 

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[obnoxiouslyfresh]

Nothing Tom Lennon said is particularly shocking. He's just another corporatism nigga who butters his bread by making white people feel comfortable. I liked one segment he did on Whitney Houston, but with that exception, would never give him any airtime. If he had any standard of basic understanding of the complex forces of inequality, then he is either willfully ignorant or a virtual carnival barker looking to maintain his 15 minutes on this raggedy ass show, and he gets none from me.

Don't litter, pull ya pants up, stop saying nigga...fuck outta here 8-|... It never fails to amaze me how people who are by all accounts successful and reasonably intelligent can be so incredibly simple. This tired ass argument about taking personal responsibility, yadda yadda, that's been revamped and recycled a million times still fails at acknowledging the vast number of powerful influences that invisibly shape our destinies. Perhaps he should engage in a bit more recreational reading into how the world really works from a social research and scientific perspective. What we really should be discussing here, to SUPPLEMENT personal choices, is inequality, which obviously is a structural and institutional construct that drastically shapes the opportunities with which one has access to. You cannot pull yourself up by bootstraps if you don't have boots. Simple and plain. He is an ignorant fool. Thank you Don Lemon for giving white people a space to further appropriate an issue they don’t understand. God knows they needed another one.

 

[Ajackson17]

Blacks are fake thugs and whites are real thugs, real thugs take over continents and nations and say it's theirs. Real thugs throw religion at people and say now you are saved from my wrath and believe in that white jesus he'll save you while lol'ing while taking your land. Real thugs do real thuggish shit. Fake thugs just do petty and forgetful shit, real thugs do shit that change the course of history for their benefit and distengrate this world.

 

[obnoxiouslyfresh]

Blacks are fake thugs and whites are real thugs, real thugs take over continents and nations and say it's theirs. Real thugs throw religion at people and say now you are saved from my wrath and believe in that white jesus he'll save you while lol'ing while taking your land. Real thugs do real thuggish shit. Fake thugs just do petty and forgetful shit, real thugs do shit that change the course of history for their benefit and distengrate this world.

Like Paul Mooney said...

black people are imitation niggas

 

[powerman 5000]

this motherfucker and that bitch nigga jason whitlock would form a super coon duo and go around snitchin on black folks. They'd drop the dime when a black man drives in the left lane, has 11 items in the express lane, and hand out belts to hungry and homeless black kids in the inner city. Their back story would be that they were the servers at paula dean's minstrel dinner and went maverick when it got canceled. They're sole purpose in life is to make stephen from django unchained look like theo huxstable.

 

[Ajackson17]

Blacks are fake thugs and whites are real thugs, real thugs take over continents and nations and say it's theirs. Real thugs throw religion at people and say now you are saved from my wrath and believe in that white jesus he'll save you while lol'ing while taking your land. Real thugs do real thuggish shit. Fake thugs just do petty and forgetful shit, real thugs do shit that change the course of history for their benefit and distengrate this world.

Like Paul Mooney said...

black people are imitation niggas

We immitate and put our spin our we create. We are creators and we need to realize that, not just simple minded folks who do nothing for nothing. That's our legacy and history. When we forgot who we are and forgot our abilities, we just fell apart. Blacks have created so much and have it stolen and others saying they built this. The europeans are late on a lot of stuff. Now, I'm not saying they haven't built anything, but there way of building is different then our ways, we work with the universe not against it. Capitalism regardless of what most folks think is against the universe, that's why debt exist, that's why laws had to be created against the abuse of it. The universe is damn near infinite and we continue to praised infinite shit that don't even reach our stratosphere of what is possible, that's insane.

 

[Gold_Certificate]

Normally, I assume this kind of shit is just feelings being caught, but megacooning from this faggot would not surprise me.

 

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[Meta_Conscious]

the "coon rhetoric" is only hurting everyone...

we can intelligently rebut his wack points and agree with his good ones or nah?

 

[manofmorehouse]

it's sad when, as a black man, if you state your opinion on race and it is constructive, you are beat down. You essentially have to pander to the masses and keep things the same to be accepted. I used to be pissed when Jordan and other athletes and entertainers with a platform didn't speak up but I can understand why now. Niggas don't want the truth. They don't want to acknowledge that they have a hand in their own destruction. If we fix ourselves, it doesn't matter what Whites say or do, but for some reason, niggas miss that point of Lemon's segment. So after a couple days, niggas will go back to being niggas and complain about the White man oppressing again, instead of getting an education, becoming positive role models, and building legacies in spite of what whites do SMH

 

[Meta_Conscious]

His points were not constructive...

 

[goldenja]

he stated to us multiple times that, "if this doesn't apply to you, don't worry about it".

which means he wasn't talking about ALL black folks.

I cant front though, I do need to work on not littering & using the word nigga though.

for the people who keep saying "he's a coon" need to stop

I'm sure some of yalls (I'm talking strictly to my people here) parents have pointed out at least a couple of things in that video on multiple occasions. if you say no, you're a damn lie

Besides, I'd rather have Don Lemon point it out than fuck ass Bill O'Riley any day.

mind elevation yall