Christians, are you ready to abandon your religion?

[zombie]

This is the most ignorant shit from you yet, now who's the fool, you look like a fool by posting false images and false claims, you is as wicked as the lie, you have no accountability for truth, you Live a lie and an undisciplined life

Well, Jesus is more then welcome to come back to Earth and prove all that wrong. He did say he would come back quickly, so maybe there's hope.

You don't want that to happen when he comes back there is going to be massive bloodshed.

 

[kingblaze84]

This is the most ignorant shit from you yet, now who's the fool, you look like a fool by posting false images and false claims, you is as wicked as the lie, you have no accountability for truth, you Live a lie and an undisciplined life

Well, Jesus is more then welcome to come back to Earth and prove all that wrong. He did say he would come back quickly, so maybe there's hope.

You don't want that to happen when he comes back there is going to be massive bloodshed.

Why would there be bloodshed when he comes back.....?

 

[LUClEN]

This is the most ignorant shit from you yet, now who's the fool, you look like a fool by posting false images and false claims, you is as wicked as the lie, you have no accountability for truth, you Live a lie and an undisciplined life

Well, Jesus is more then welcome to come back to Earth and prove all that wrong. He did say he would come back quickly, so maybe there's hope.

this is basically where religion lost me

the book is full of miracles and encounters with the divine

yet I experience none and I'm expected to believe that the tales in the text are true

 

[zombie]

If fear isn't a factor why is divine punishment such a prominent feature of monotheism?

'don't you want to go to heaven?'

It's not discipline, it's just a desire to chase a reward and avoid a punishment

divine punishment is a feature of the abrahamic religion because gods perfection is a feature of these religions therefore there must be punishment for all sin. God does not give us a spirit of fear but of boldness so no christian that has grown beyond the baby phase serves god totally out of fear Fear of god is love for self and mankind and beside cowards are also thrown into the lake of fire.

Proverbs

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.

For by me your days will be multiplied, and years will be added to your life.

you did not show that there is not an aspect of fear to religious devotion it was never my intention

and even said that people do it for themselves, which is just them chasing a reward

that is not doing what people do not want and does not fit your definition of discipline

read what i said carefully, basically i said that fear alone is not enough to give you an eternal reward, and is only a motivator of "baby believers" those who don't really know the faith. The verse you quoted says what?? that fear is the beginning so of course their is an aspect of fear to religious devotion. but it's not done as a way to get some eternal reward.

fear of god which is really respect is no gaurantee of escaping hell so we don't believe from fear because there is no eternal reward in living a devoted life based only on fear. The bible is clear the only way into his kingdom is to love god and your fellow man. the bible also says love seeks nothing for itself SO THERE is no chasing of any reward though we are promised one it cannot be attained by anything we do of ourselves.

 

[kingblaze84]

This is the most ignorant shit from you yet, now who's the fool, you look like a fool by posting false images and false claims, you is as wicked as the lie, you have no accountability for truth, you Live a lie and an undisciplined life

Well, Jesus is more then welcome to come back to Earth and prove all that wrong. He did say he would come back quickly, so maybe there's hope.

this is basically where religion lost me

the book is full of miracles and encounters with the divine

yet I experience none and I'm expected to believe that the tales in the text are true

It's something many former Christians like myself could never understand. Why did god do all these miracles IN FRONT of people back in the day, but nothing now? How come these so called saviors and prophets are so quiet now? I've experienced some lucky and miraculous things in my life but when I watch the news or read the newspapers, I see those miraculous things aren't really spread across the world. So much misery on Earth and these saviors and prophets are doing shit now.

 

[zombie]

This is the most ignorant shit from you yet, now who's the fool, you look like a fool by posting false images and false claims, you is as wicked as the lie, you have no accountability for truth, you Live a lie and an undisciplined life

Well, Jesus is more then welcome to come back to Earth and prove all that wrong. He did say he would come back quickly, so maybe there's hope.

You don't want that to happen when he comes back there is going to be massive bloodshed.

Why would there be bloodshed when he comes back.....?

Partly because of people like you WHO will allow the oppression of his faithful i could get deeper into it with you but that would go into prophecy.

 

[zombie]

This is the most ignorant shit from you yet, now who's the fool, you look like a fool by posting false images and false claims, you is as wicked as the lie, you have no accountability for truth, you Live a lie and an undisciplined life

Well, Jesus is more then welcome to come back to Earth and prove all that wrong. He did say he would come back quickly, so maybe there's hope.

this is basically where religion lost me

the book is full of miracles and encounters with the divine

yet I experience none and I'm expected to believe that the tales in the text are true

It's something many former Christians like myself could never understand. Why did god do all these miracles IN FRONT of people back in the day, but nothing now? How come these so called saviors and prophets are so quiet now? I've experienced some lucky and miraculous things in my life but when I watch the news or read the newspapers, I see those miraculous things aren't really spread across the world. So much misery on Earth and these saviors and prophets are doing shit now.

Miracles happen all the time but There is no longer a need for prophets of god to do all that magic we have all we need.

 

[zombie]

This is the most ignorant shit from you yet, now who's the fool, you look like a fool by posting false images and false claims, you is as wicked as the lie, you have no accountability for truth, you Live a lie and an undisciplined life

Well, Jesus is more then welcome to come back to Earth and prove all that wrong. He did say he would come back quickly, so maybe there's hope.

this is basically where religion lost me

the book is full of miracles and encounters with the divine

yet I experience none and I'm expected to believe that the tales in the text are true

well, i have experienced the supernatural sorry you have not but now the chances of you ever experiencing it are becoming weaker as will become like a deadzone

 

[zombie]

the scriptures teach you to desire to do what is against your nature that is the discipline of god i don't know how much more clear i can be. there are 2 types of fear: fear of god which is more akin to extreme respect and then their is human fear, no form of human fear will get you into the kingdom of heaven if you serve god just because you are afraid of hell then you are probable going to end up in the lake of fire.

 

[Ajackson17]

This thread is hard to read and yes science can establish discipline, but there needs to be a question why, what, where, and how first to establish a logical reasoning for this particular discipline and etc. But it's much easier to learn from The Creator. So...yeah pointless thread.

No that's instruction/training, religiously created discipline has no set logical method and in facts it's true discipline because it's not imposed upon you from the outside.

If the creator is nature and life then discipline is natural. We are just in a unnatural state so what appears to be natural isn't natural.

 

[zombie]

This thread is hard to read and yes science can establish discipline, but there needs to be a question why, what, where, and how first to establish a logical reasoning for this particular discipline and etc. But it's much easier to learn from The Creator. So...yeah pointless thread.

No that's instruction/training, religiously created discipline has no set logical method and in facts it's true discipline because it's not imposed upon you from the outside.

If the creator is nature and life then discipline is natural. We are just in a unnatural state so what appears to be natural isn't natural.

the creator is not nature God in Christian theology exist apart from nature. above the universe but his presence can be felt by nature

 

[Lab Baby]

This is the most ignorant shit from you yet, now who's the fool, you look like a fool by posting false images and false claims, you is as wicked as the lie, you have no accountability for truth, you Live a lie and an undisciplined life

Well, Jesus is more then welcome to come back to Earth and prove all that wrong. He did say he would come back quickly, so maybe there's hope.

this is basically where religion lost me

the book is full of miracles and encounters with the divine

yet I experience none and I'm expected to believe that the tales in the text are true

It's something many former Christians like myself could never understand. Why did god do all these miracles IN FRONT of people back in the day, but nothing now? How come these so called saviors and prophets are so quiet now? I've experienced some lucky and miraculous things in my life but when I watch the news or read the newspapers, I see those miraculous things aren't really spread across the world. So much misery on Earth and these saviors and prophets are doing shit now.

I'm skeptical about the miracles in the past myself (most of them are pagan allegories), but the mainstream media only reports what THEY want you to see. The people that run this world want us to question God, so of course they won't show anything of that nature. But they're quick to show you a rapper and a porn star get married like that's something to be given a fuck about. I seen some things happen... not necessarily in a biblical nature, but enough for me to at least acknowledge God's existence. And of course there's shit like this...


The revolution will not be televised... but it might get Youtubed like a mufucka.

 

[soul rattler]

Wrong. "God" is a title that merely represents superiority... something that we all should strive towards.

I am promoting the removal of the idea that we are eternal subordinates to some extra-terrestrial character. I am promoting the idea that we can be great all on our own, capable of wonderful and terrible things equally.

You don't need Chrisitianty. Leave it.

When i and most christians use the term GOD we mean the most high god, the god of abraham stop all the semantics and word splitting you are doing you know what i mean.

Man was made with great power and we have great power but by virtue that we are created being we are subordinate i don't need to eat sugar but i would not want to live without it life would be dreadful without it.

That's just the problem: You casually toss around terminology like Christ, God, Satan, and Lucifer, using them inaccurately or flat out incorrectly. This is more than semantics. This is acknowledging these theoretic concepts for what they are. Not what some ignorant, racist, power hungry 2nd Century fools misunderstood them to be.

Also, we weren't created. We evolved. But that's a different thread altogether.

Throw away your Christianity.

Everything was created even if it evolved it had to come from something and that something had to come from something. GOD IS THE ONLY exception to this because FOR THEIR to be a GOD it would have to be beyond all things yet able to create things.

You are just using sophistry and word games and you know it . To a christian the term christ refers to one man, and yes there have been other anointed ones but only one to bring salvation to all mankind. WHEN we say god we mean the most high GOD. I never used the word lucifer or satan. Throw away your ignorance

Are you even aware of what you're "God" actually is?

Christians like to talk about their god as if it is a capable being equipped with emotions and the ability to do things and speak. But then they'll turn around and say their god is a spirit. Ask them what a spirit is, and you'll get multiple answers which contradict one another. A spirit in its correct definition could not show emotion or perform tasks or speak anymore than a chair can. It is an inanimate thing.

God is the creator of all reality, in the bible god has emotions. Christians define what the word god or spirit means in their religion, the word spirit has many different meanings and connotations. Who the fuck are you to decide what the correct definitions are for a religion that you do no believe in or respect in the first place???? ONCE AGAIN the arrogance of a devil in upon you repent and throw away your ignorance.

I've not disrespected you once in this thread, yet here you are name calling and assuming more about my position than what I have revealed. Is this what they've taught you in the school of Christian evangelical thought? "If you can't get them to join you, beat them"?

Tell me. What is a devil?

You did not disrespect me you disrespect the religion so indirectly you disrespected me because i am a follower of that religion. Once again you are playing with words

A "devil" is a servant of evil, one who opposes god.

You would literally admit to following the ideology of Paul? Do you worship Paul too since you're just willingly following the religion he started?

This thread embraces true godliness, otherwise known as the potential of greatness of the human mind.

 

[zombie]

Wrong. "God" is a title that merely represents superiority... something that we all should strive towards.

I am promoting the removal of the idea that we are eternal subordinates to some extra-terrestrial character. I am promoting the idea that we can be great all on our own, capable of wonderful and terrible things equally.

You don't need Chrisitianty. Leave it.

When i and most christians use the term GOD we mean the most high god, the god of abraham stop all the semantics and word splitting you are doing you know what i mean.

Man was made with great power and we have great power but by virtue that we are created being we are subordinate i don't need to eat sugar but i would not want to live without it life would be dreadful without it.

That's just the problem: You casually toss around terminology like Christ, God, Satan, and Lucifer, using them inaccurately or flat out incorrectly. This is more than semantics. This is acknowledging these theoretic concepts for what they are. Not what some ignorant, racist, power hungry 2nd Century fools misunderstood them to be.

Also, we weren't created. We evolved. But that's a different thread altogether.

Throw away your Christianity.

Everything was created even if it evolved it had to come from something and that something had to come from something. GOD IS THE ONLY exception to this because FOR THEIR to be a GOD it would have to be beyond all things yet able to create things.

You are just using sophistry and word games and you know it . To a christian the term christ refers to one man, and yes there have been other anointed ones but only one to bring salvation to all mankind. WHEN we say god we mean the most high GOD. I never used the word lucifer or satan. Throw away your ignorance

Are you even aware of what you're "God" actually is?

Christians like to talk about their god as if it is a capable being equipped with emotions and the ability to do things and speak. But then they'll turn around and say their god is a spirit. Ask them what a spirit is, and you'll get multiple answers which contradict one another. A spirit in its correct definition could not show emotion or perform tasks or speak anymore than a chair can. It is an inanimate thing.

God is the creator of all reality, in the bible god has emotions. Christians define what the word god or spirit means in their religion, the word spirit has many different meanings and connotations. Who the fuck are you to decide what the correct definitions are for a religion that you do no believe in or respect in the first place???? ONCE AGAIN the arrogance of a devil in upon you repent and throw away your ignorance.

I've not disrespected you once in this thread, yet here you are name calling and assuming more about my position than what I have revealed. Is this what they've taught you in the school of Christian evangelical thought? "If you can't get them to join you, beat them"?

Tell me. What is a devil?

You did not disrespect me you disrespect the religion so indirectly you disrespected me because i am a follower of that religion. Once again you are playing with words

A "devil" is a servant of evil, one who opposes god.

You would literally admit to following the ideology of Paul? Do you worship Paul too since you're just willingly following the religion he started?

This thread embraces true godliness, otherwise known as the potential of greatness of the human mind.

I follow the religion of Christ and his ideology. what you described sounds more like the worship of man and the creations of man.

while I recognize the beauty of man. it's not worthy of worship especially since most of our greatest creations are inspired by our various religious faiths

 

[zombie]

self worship is not godliness it's arrogance and pride which are basically the ultimate destroyers of man.

 

[soul rattler]

self worship is not godliness it's arrogance and pride which are basically the ultimate destroyers of man.

If you see yourself as a god, and worship yourself as such, you are practicing godliness.

 

[jetlifebih]

@zzombie

 

[zzombie]

self worship is not godliness it's arrogance and pride which are basically the ultimate destroyers of man.

If you see yourself as a god, and worship yourself as such, you are practicing godliness.

worshiping yourself is foolish because you are a limited being and as such your mind absorbs the thought ideas and patterns of behavior of other people around you, you are what is around you. Therefore by worshiping your self what you are really doing is worshiping mankind. The problem with worshiping mankind is that mankind is untrustworthy selfish and worse of all it does not have your best interest at heart

 

[Ether44mag]

“For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many.” These “false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect–if that were possible” (Matthew 24:24)

the only person who ever claimed to be christ is jesus right ? or am I wrong ?

but yet :

every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world” (1 John 4:3)

sounds simple but but ,when you really think about it its like ,if even the elect can get deceived that means we should doubt everything but at the same time if we doubt ,we are not from God ?? someone explain this fuckery to me please lol

so its like the first christ is legit ? but we will be deceived...hmmm nobody ever claimed to be christ other than Jesus so....and people are waiting for him to come back but first will come fake christ's that means jesus is FAR from coming back and when he comes back he might be a fake one ,even the elect can be deceived..but if we doubt the next coming we migh feel like we not from God ? is that right ? hahaha

fuck all this shit man lol I believe in God and thats it ! fuck any human being coming on some "i am Christ" type of shit wether it be the first one or any other one ,they all shiesty to me

 

[zzombie]

“For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many.” These “false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect–if that were possible” (Matthew 24:24)

the only person who ever claimed to be christ is jesus right ? or am I wrong ?

but yet :

every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world” (1 John 4:3)

sounds simple but but ,when you really think about it its like ,if even the elect can get deceived that means we should doubt everything but at the same time if we doubt ,we are not from God ?? someone explain this fuckery to me please lol

so its like the first christ is legit ? but we will be deceived...hmmm nobody ever claimed to be christ other than Jesus so....and people are waiting for him to come back but first will come fake christ's that means jesus is FAR from coming back and when he comes back he might be a fake one ,even the elect can be deceived..but if we doubt the next coming we migh feel like we not from God ? is that right ? hahaha

fuck all this shit man lol I believe in God and thats it ! fuck any human being coming on some "i am Christ" type of shit wether it be the first one or any other one ,they all shiesty to me

there is nothing to explain because the bible does not say that You can doubt anything you want too christians experience doubts all the time even the apostles had doubts from time to time.