Valentinez A. Kaiser
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bkkbully;4770303 said:
emcees know what time it is!
evoljeanyes
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This dude is lost! Sonic the hedgehog alien?
Soho Fresco
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It's not as crazy as it appears, he's talking in code (could be due to his schizophrenia) He is saying something but he's so damn paranoid, he ended up talking that paranoid talk. Using symbolism to try to tell you something rather than just say it. It's not his fault though, schizos tend to do that but it doesn't make them crazy. Schizos are intelligent, they just come off as lunatics when it comes to delivering the message they want you to hear. For ex. if I killed someone in front of a schizo, he or she would never forget what happened and how the person was killed...location etc. Instead of just flat out telling the world what he or she witnessed, that person would speak in code. It would be up to the listeners to be patient and decipher the message. A schizo was once used as a witness in a court case, he was the the one that actually landed the dude in jail..true story.
In CH case, J.Cole and the industry obviously did something to him that he wants us to know. He will never forget those events and will forever want to bring them up. Sounds like he is basically saying J.Cole is a sell out and is putting the industry on blast. J.Cole did something to him that we will probably never find out. Sounds like they both came into the game with the same vision (or that's what CH thought) but he feels Cole used him to get signed but once he got signed, he turned mainstream. Saying how Jay is his fav rapper yet he talked shit behind Jays back (CH referring to Cole) Shit is intense, I doubt Cole will ever comment on it so CH will forever be looked at as a crazy guy. The industry probably blackballed him too. "In non supernatural terms....some deep shit" @ the bolded, he basically said shit was deeper than music there and then he went back to talking in code.
Don't forget him mentioning 1981 at the end....where MTV just randomly cuts him off as if he said something inappropriate. That was another coded message. MTV was created in 1981, they cut him off as he was saying something else too. Charles is telling you what he witnessed from the inside while we could do nothing but judge from the outside. He was saying that MTV is the biggest or one of the biggest "supernatural entities", meaning it is one of the biggest mediums to broadcast & support satanic/occult material through videos/tv programs.
I'm posting all this up because Ireally feel it's wrong how CH is getting done here. Seems like the game done fucked him up. Dude went from having Lacey Duvalle in his vid to this? nah man...somethings up.
In CH case, J.Cole and the industry obviously did something to him that he wants us to know. He will never forget those events and will forever want to bring them up. Sounds like he is basically saying J.Cole is a sell out and is putting the industry on blast. J.Cole did something to him that we will probably never find out. Sounds like they both came into the game with the same vision (or that's what CH thought) but he feels Cole used him to get signed but once he got signed, he turned mainstream. Saying how Jay is his fav rapper yet he talked shit behind Jays back (CH referring to Cole) Shit is intense, I doubt Cole will ever comment on it so CH will forever be looked at as a crazy guy. The industry probably blackballed him too. "In non supernatural terms....some deep shit" @ the bolded, he basically said shit was deeper than music there and then he went back to talking in code.
Don't forget him mentioning 1981 at the end....where MTV just randomly cuts him off as if he said something inappropriate. That was another coded message. MTV was created in 1981, they cut him off as he was saying something else too. Charles is telling you what he witnessed from the inside while we could do nothing but judge from the outside. He was saying that MTV is the biggest or one of the biggest "supernatural entities", meaning it is one of the biggest mediums to broadcast & support satanic/occult material through videos/tv programs.
I'm posting all this up because Ireally feel it's wrong how CH is getting done here. Seems like the game done fucked him up. Dude went from having Lacey Duvalle in his vid to this? nah man...somethings up.
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Soho Fresco
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I found this breakdown by someone:
It's easy to call him crazy and say he's speaking gibberish so i'll try to make sense of what he's saying and translate. I can only assume if he's sober and not crazy then he's speaking in code. After all, MTV found him credible enough to even give an interview so here it goes:
•"Looking Down" = A Hierarchy. I guess he was saying there was some hierarchy of who was gonna make it big next in the mainstream music industry in rap and he was right under J.Cole among a few others, probably the All City Chess Club. The Hierarchy is what the Label executives and people above it "look down" on to pick the new hot artist.
•"Boy who cried wolf" = A metaphor from the Nursery story "A boy who cried wolf". He would say people were doing things to him that they weren't jokingly or for attention, until it was pointed out by some credible names in rap that the attacks were real this time. justifytheory.blogspot.com/2010/10/charles-hamilton-boy-who-cried-devil.html
The link shows what CH was referring to when he said a boy who cried wolf
•"Supernatural" = His way of talking and slang for "Deep Shit" as explained in the video. A while back he was thinking about making a Charles Hamilton dictionary full of his own words and releasing it too the public. Similar to Nicki Minaj's "Nictionary".
•"His Boss" = Probably referring to Jay-z who signed J.Cole or Jimmy Iovine who is the chairman of Interscope-Geffen-A&M records that he had a close relationship with.
•"Simone" = Simone Porter, a girl he met through a blog who he had a relationship with. He made a song about her. The phobia of cameras is him saying he doesn't want to jeopardize the relationship between him and her by making it publicized and it putting it in tabloids and blogs. Kind of like Kanye West and Kim Kardashian.
•"Paternal standpoint" = Paternal means Father or fatherly figure. He's pretty much saying he created J.Cole. If you listen to his diss record, he makes that clear. I think he's mad because J.cole said someone else "created him" and he's giving credit to other people except Charles Hamilton. My opinion: At the end of the day, Ch is still a musician that has a way with words. No matter how weird he worded it, I also felt he called Cole his son in a way that he felt he had to embrace him because Cole was his little man...his investment This goes back to my point, CH is saying some deep stuff but the way he is delivering the message is what make us jump up and call it crazy talk.
•"Found out it wasn't true" = Him finding out he's not the father of the child. A metaphor for saying he's J.Cole's father and after 18 years (metaphorically speaking) he finds out it wasn't his. After investing so much time and money into what he thought was his child.
•"MTV is apart of the Egyptian encryption" = I guess he's pointing out the ties MTV has to the Illuminati and how you can see eygpytian hyroglyphs such as the horus eye and other shit in MTV's logos and so on.
•"The DaVinci Stain" = There were some stains on a painting by Leonardo Davinici that turned out to actually be sketches. So he was using the DavVinci Stain as an analogy as what you see isn't a mistake but it's actually there and real. He could also be referring to The DaVinci Code was pretty much a theory on how the bible may be decoded to predict the future and tell the structure of how America works and was built. It's supposed to shed light on the Illuminati. I guess some how he believes Sega and sonic is some how in this code.
•"1981" = The year when MTV first launched which was August, 1st 1981.
That was me trying to understand make sense out of what seemed like gibberish and probably was. However Dave Chappele said it best:
"The worst thing to call somebody is crazy. It's dismissive. "I don't understand this person. So they're crazy." That's bullshit. These people are not crazy. They strong people. Maybe their environment is a little sick."
•"Put it on my tab" = He talked to J.Cole's Boss and put J.Cole's music expenses on Charles Hamilton's tab. Charles Hamilton invested a lot of money into J.cole.
That's just my take on what he meant. He could just be a nut job. After all, he did put himself into a Mental Hospital not to long ago and has had a history of using drugs which could of altered his mind permanently. Maybe he's a retarded genius. Who knows if these questions will ever be answered.
•"Put it on my tab" = He talked to J.Cole's Boss and put J.Cole's music expenses on Charles Hamilton's tab. Charles Hamilton invested a lot of money into J.cole.
It's easy to call him crazy and say he's speaking gibberish so i'll try to make sense of what he's saying and translate. I can only assume if he's sober and not crazy then he's speaking in code. After all, MTV found him credible enough to even give an interview so here it goes:
•"Looking Down" = A Hierarchy. I guess he was saying there was some hierarchy of who was gonna make it big next in the mainstream music industry in rap and he was right under J.Cole among a few others, probably the All City Chess Club. The Hierarchy is what the Label executives and people above it "look down" on to pick the new hot artist.
•"Boy who cried wolf" = A metaphor from the Nursery story "A boy who cried wolf". He would say people were doing things to him that they weren't jokingly or for attention, until it was pointed out by some credible names in rap that the attacks were real this time. justifytheory.blogspot.com/2010/10/charles-hamilton-boy-who-cried-devil.html
The link shows what CH was referring to when he said a boy who cried wolf
•"Supernatural" = His way of talking and slang for "Deep Shit" as explained in the video. A while back he was thinking about making a Charles Hamilton dictionary full of his own words and releasing it too the public. Similar to Nicki Minaj's "Nictionary".
•"His Boss" = Probably referring to Jay-z who signed J.Cole or Jimmy Iovine who is the chairman of Interscope-Geffen-A&M records that he had a close relationship with.
•"Simone" = Simone Porter, a girl he met through a blog who he had a relationship with. He made a song about her. The phobia of cameras is him saying he doesn't want to jeopardize the relationship between him and her by making it publicized and it putting it in tabloids and blogs. Kind of like Kanye West and Kim Kardashian.
•"Paternal standpoint" = Paternal means Father or fatherly figure. He's pretty much saying he created J.Cole. If you listen to his diss record, he makes that clear. I think he's mad because J.cole said someone else "created him" and he's giving credit to other people except Charles Hamilton. My opinion: At the end of the day, Ch is still a musician that has a way with words. No matter how weird he worded it, I also felt he called Cole his son in a way that he felt he had to embrace him because Cole was his little man...his investment This goes back to my point, CH is saying some deep stuff but the way he is delivering the message is what make us jump up and call it crazy talk.
•"Found out it wasn't true" = Him finding out he's not the father of the child. A metaphor for saying he's J.Cole's father and after 18 years (metaphorically speaking) he finds out it wasn't his. After investing so much time and money into what he thought was his child.
•"MTV is apart of the Egyptian encryption" = I guess he's pointing out the ties MTV has to the Illuminati and how you can see eygpytian hyroglyphs such as the horus eye and other shit in MTV's logos and so on.
•"The DaVinci Stain" = There were some stains on a painting by Leonardo Davinici that turned out to actually be sketches. So he was using the DavVinci Stain as an analogy as what you see isn't a mistake but it's actually there and real. He could also be referring to The DaVinci Code was pretty much a theory on how the bible may be decoded to predict the future and tell the structure of how America works and was built. It's supposed to shed light on the Illuminati. I guess some how he believes Sega and sonic is some how in this code.
•"1981" = The year when MTV first launched which was August, 1st 1981.
That was me trying to understand make sense out of what seemed like gibberish and probably was. However Dave Chappele said it best:
"The worst thing to call somebody is crazy. It's dismissive. "I don't understand this person. So they're crazy." That's bullshit. These people are not crazy. They strong people. Maybe their environment is a little sick."
•"Put it on my tab" = He talked to J.Cole's Boss and put J.Cole's music expenses on Charles Hamilton's tab. Charles Hamilton invested a lot of money into J.cole.
That's just my take on what he meant. He could just be a nut job. After all, he did put himself into a Mental Hospital not to long ago and has had a history of using drugs which could of altered his mind permanently. Maybe he's a retarded genius. Who knows if these questions will ever be answered.
•"Put it on my tab" = He talked to J.Cole's Boss and put J.Cole's music expenses on Charles Hamilton's tab. Charles Hamilton invested a lot of money into J.cole.
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Bawse D.Lox
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@SoHoFresco
that jehri curl juice done fried your brain. but good observation tho
that jehri curl juice done fried your brain. but good observation tho
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Soho Fresco;4771216 said:
You get a LOL of the year Award.
soul rattler
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Soho Fresco;4771216 said:
Meta_Conscious
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lol@writing a dissertation to decipher that fuckry...
evoljeanyes
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OK...first @Soho j. Cole never calls jay-z his favorite. He has made numerous top 5 rapper lists where j isn't included.
This man is literally saying j. Cole was born to him from another life form. He says it when he mentions the j. Dilla line tgat was removed from the net. He himself called Cole one of the best rappers of the 21st century.
Charles Hamilton is not putting money behind Cole. He would do that for himself if he was.
Dude is not supernatural it in tune with something hire. No real dude makes abortion jokes to his girl in a battle. That's childish.
Hamilton is just a conspiracy theory junkie. Period. He isn't talking about Illuminati shit.
The camera didn't cut him off in the 1981 shot BC it was secretive. They did it because he was hollering. He had his. Dance to show us or say something.
He didnt
This man is literally saying j. Cole was born to him from another life form. He says it when he mentions the j. Dilla line tgat was removed from the net. He himself called Cole one of the best rappers of the 21st century.
Charles Hamilton is not putting money behind Cole. He would do that for himself if he was.
Dude is not supernatural it in tune with something hire. No real dude makes abortion jokes to his girl in a battle. That's childish.
Hamilton is just a conspiracy theory junkie. Period. He isn't talking about Illuminati shit.
The camera didn't cut him off in the 1981 shot BC it was secretive. They did it because he was hollering. He had his. Dance to show us or say something.
He didnt
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Charles hamilton is a junkie
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Soho Fresco
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Bawse D.Lox;4771255 said:
I'm not saying that I agree with what CH is saying but I won't dismiss it as if he's just some lunatic. I am saying that people are to quick to call people crazy. I am not his doctor but if he is a schizo, he could have been talking in code. Meaning, he was trying to tell us stuff but he's so paranoid, he's blending it in with code talk for us to decipher. It's a common thing for schizo's to do.
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@evoljeanyes
Word to George, I thought I birthed you
Nigga diss me, now I gotta hurt you
Lil nigga, thought you was a real nigga
Thought you was one of my real niggas
Or at least I birthed you
^^^^
You see man, at the end of the day...Ch is still a rapper. He still knows how to use subliminals..metaphors. No matter how crazy he appears. Check out the above lines and listen to the interview. He basically called J.cole his son in a way he felt he brung him into the game. He then says but since it isnt true (he's not his father) He said fuck it and dissed him.
"I remember when I met you, you was dissing Jay
Shit ain't bother my anyway" @evoljeanyes I never said that Jay is J.Cole's fav. but if you listen to CH diss. He basically said that J.Cole was talking behind Jay's back.
Throwing up the Roc sign, I assumed that you knew what it meant
Apparently you didn't
Nigga, you was fishin', barely was livin'
And I'm the one who put you in your new position
Just remember, nigga
^^^^Invest as in CH felt he helped get Cole to where he is at now but he feels Cole didn't give credit where it's due and changed once he signed to the roc.
He called him the nicest but later took back that statement in his diss:
You ain't the nicest, nigga I was just excited
You sound a lot like me, my sperm musta grew
And it was warm and it's true
I'm just saying, people don't want to do research on the situation but he isn't as crazy as he appears the same way they tried to do Dave Chapelle when he took that hiatus. DC came back telling people why he did what he did but the media tried to dismiss it as crazy talk. In CH's case, I really thing dudes schizophrenia got the best of him. Something happened to him but he is unable to fully deliver the message properly. So i'm saying that it's ignorant to call him a junkie when what he is displaying is schizo behavior.
Word to George, I thought I birthed you
Nigga diss me, now I gotta hurt you
Lil nigga, thought you was a real nigga
Thought you was one of my real niggas
Or at least I birthed you
^^^^
You see man, at the end of the day...Ch is still a rapper. He still knows how to use subliminals..metaphors. No matter how crazy he appears. Check out the above lines and listen to the interview. He basically called J.cole his son in a way he felt he brung him into the game. He then says but since it isnt true (he's not his father) He said fuck it and dissed him.
"I remember when I met you, you was dissing Jay
Shit ain't bother my anyway" @evoljeanyes I never said that Jay is J.Cole's fav. but if you listen to CH diss. He basically said that J.Cole was talking behind Jay's back.
Throwing up the Roc sign, I assumed that you knew what it meant
Apparently you didn't
Nigga, you was fishin', barely was livin'
And I'm the one who put you in your new position
Just remember, nigga
^^^^Invest as in CH felt he helped get Cole to where he is at now but he feels Cole didn't give credit where it's due and changed once he signed to the roc.
He called him the nicest but later took back that statement in his diss:
You ain't the nicest, nigga I was just excited
You sound a lot like me, my sperm musta grew
And it was warm and it's true
I'm just saying, people don't want to do research on the situation but he isn't as crazy as he appears the same way they tried to do Dave Chapelle when he took that hiatus. DC came back telling people why he did what he did but the media tried to dismiss it as crazy talk. In CH's case, I really thing dudes schizophrenia got the best of him. Something happened to him but he is unable to fully deliver the message properly. So i'm saying that it's ignorant to call him a junkie when what he is displaying is schizo behavior.
evoljeanyes
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@Soho I don't know about him being a junkie.
You did say Cole said jay was his favorite rapper. The fact that he airing out shit like you used to diss jay as his beef is childish. Its contrary to what you are making of him.
Charles Hamilton and J. Cole have a documented relationship? Or had?
He is speaking in literal terms when he then says its way deeper than that. You were birthed from a man is explanatory stand alone.
CH is creating these indecipherable challenges due to his poor and vague communication.
When Dave got his platform he spoke strongly and clearly. Why speakout in code that no one can decipher.
Yeah he is skits but, he us also irrational.
No disrespect. This is one if the rare times where the gripe is justified. The junkie shit may be pushing it
You did say Cole said jay was his favorite rapper. The fact that he airing out shit like you used to diss jay as his beef is childish. Its contrary to what you are making of him.
Charles Hamilton and J. Cole have a documented relationship? Or had?
He is speaking in literal terms when he then says its way deeper than that. You were birthed from a man is explanatory stand alone.
CH is creating these indecipherable challenges due to his poor and vague communication.
When Dave got his platform he spoke strongly and clearly. Why speakout in code that no one can decipher.
Yeah he is skits but, he us also irrational.
No disrespect. This is one if the rare times where the gripe is justified. The junkie shit may be pushing it
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Soho Fresco
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evoljeanyes;4772683 said:
@ the bolded, that's what schizos do. That's what I was saying, it could be due to his illness but i'm not his doctor so I don't want to jump to conclusions. With schizophrenia, you can have brilliant thoughts, but they're hard to translate into something others understand. In this case, CH is trying to tell us something but he delivers the message poorly. Dave Chapelle was good, he just needed a break and wanted to get away from whatever he felt was threatening his life so when he came back, it was all good.
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