Characters you have taking at least 3 out of 10 against Thanos in a fight

[evoljeanyes]

@darkraiden in here holding me down! Lol I like lonious monk I just disagree with him on this one!

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Well we'll have to agree to disagree. Batman and Doom have done nothing lead me to believe that their preparation and tactics are better than Thanos'. Again Thanos' planning makes him a Universal threat. Sure, he's got a lot of power, but it's not his power that has made him so dangerous. There are tons of being in the Marvel universe millions of times more powerful than Thanos, yet he's made them all his bitch on at least two occasions. What have Batman and Doom ever done to rival that?

But if we go back to the Hulk vs Thanos discussion, my point is that Thanos will do whatever he needs to do to accomplish his goal. I'm not saying that he wouldn't brawl with Hulk. He would because Thanos likes to test himself, but once he gets to the point where the fight is begin to impede on his progress, he wil do whatever it takes to end it and go about his business. The perfect example was with insane Thor. Thanos brawled with him, but when he realized it was more trouble that it was worth, he grabbed some tech and ended it instantly. He would do the same with Hulk.

Now I know Thanos>>>Doom maybe even with intelligence, but that statement about Doom never rivaling Thanos is kinda dumb when he stole Galactus' powers, actually took over Earth a few times, has collected more than 1 Infinity Gauntlets, and most of all, stole classic "God" Beyonder's powers. Doom has done some impressive things as well. Batman? Yeah he's not fucking with no one. Just my 2 cents.

lol Come on man. Read what you put. Doom stole Surfer's powers not Galactus'. Thanos has clone and improved Galactus. Think about that for a second. Thanos CLONED and IMPROVED a cosmic being that has existed since the beginning of the universe. Doom took over the Earth a few times. Thanos took over the Universe a couple times. Doom collected multiple gems. Thanos collected ALL of the gems, and unlike Doom, Thanos had to best the Elders of the Universe to get them. Doom stole classic Beyonder's powers, which if I'm not mistaken was part of classic Beyonder's plan, so that doesn't even really count. Do you really not see the difference in the scope of their accomplishments. I'm not down Doom. He's a great villain and is very crafty. I'm just pointing out that Thanos is on another level. Remember, this is Marvel, not DC. There is a pretty big jump in capabilities when going from Marvel Earth to Cosmic Marvel. Everything is amped up on the Cosmic side. When some element of the Cosmic side comes to Earth, it automatically becomes a big event for Earth. That same big event might be a run of the mill occurence as far as Cosmic Marvel goes. Thanos stands above Doom, because Thanos is Doom on a Cosmic level.

Well we'll have to agree to disagree. Batman and Doom have done nothing lead me to believe that their preparation and tactics are better than Thanos'. Again Thanos' planning makes him a Universal threat. Sure, he's got a lot of power, but it's not his power that has made him so dangerous. There are tons of being in the Marvel universe millions of times more powerful than Thanos, yet he's made them all his bitch on at least two occasions. What have Batman and Doom ever done to rival that?

But if we go back to the Hulk vs Thanos discussion, my point is that Thanos will do whatever he needs to do to accomplish his goal. I'm not saying that he wouldn't brawl with Hulk. He would because Thanos likes to test himself, but once he gets to the point where the fight is begin to impede on his progress, he wil do whatever it takes to end it and go about his business. The perfect example was with insane Thor. Thanos brawled with him, but when he realized it was more trouble that it was worth, he grabbed some tech and ended it instantly. He would do the same with Hulk.

Now I know Thanos>>>Doom maybe even with intelligence, but that statement about Doom never rivaling Thanos is kinda dumb when he stole Galactus' powers, actually took over Earth a few times, has collected more than 1 Infinity Gauntlets, and most of all, stole classic "God" Beyonder's powers. Doom has done some impressive things as well. Batman? Yeah he's not fucking with no one. Just my 2 cents.

lol Come on man. Read what you put. Doom stole Surfer's powers not Galactus'. Thanos has clone and improved Galactus. Think about that for a second. Thanos CLONED and IMPROVED a cosmic being that has existed since the beginning of the universe. Doom took over the Earth a few times. Thanos took over the Universe a couple times. Doom collected multiple gems. Thanos collected ALL of the gems, and unlike Doom, Thanos had to best the Elders of the Universe to get them. Doom stole classic Beyonder's powers, which if I'm not mistaken was part of classic Beyonder's plan, so that doesn't even really count. Do you really not see the difference in the scope of their accomplishments. I'm not down Doom. He's a great villain and is very crafty. I'm just pointing out that Thanos is on another level. Remember, this is Marvel, not DC. There is a pretty big jump in capabilities when going from Marvel Earth to Cosmic Marvel. Everything is amped up on the Cosmic side. When some element of the Cosmic side comes to Earth, it automatically becomes a big event for Earth. That same big event might be a run of the mill occurence as far as Cosmic Marvel goes. Thanos stands above Doom, because Thanos is Doom on a Cosmic level.

No, Doom stole Galactus's powers, when right before he stole Beyonders(and IIRC It wasn't beyonder's plan, he just found a way to trick him into giving it up or something dumb like that) and another time when he was commenting on knowing and seeing everything in thr universe due to Galactus's cosmic awareness. Doom, a human, stole Galactus's, an entity, powers with ease. He took Beyonder, who is God essentially, powers, he actually accomplished his goal of taking over the earth and gave it up multiple times. He also beat Marquis the Death, a universal being, with years of prep after making himself immortal and refining his magic over the years. He's done a lot.

Also Doom has multiple Infinity Gauntlets from different universes, not just gems. He's on his level. And btw I agree that Thanos is pretty much Doom on a cosmic scale, I said he's better, but Doom is comparable. IIRC he's so good that Thanos himself keeps tabs on him.

Ehhh fair enough. Seems I was mistaken in several areas. To be honest, I think I got the account of what happened with the Beyonder mixed up with the Spiderman cartoon. In that version, the Beyonder really did let Doom think he stole the power. I do know Galactus was damn near on death's door in his appearance in the comics. It was the explanation for why the Beyonder was able to handle him so easily and possibly why Doom was able to steal his power.

Anyway, I agree Doom is a beast. I just think Thanos is better in virtually every area, besides mysticism (Thanos has knowledge of this but not the extent of Doom). I guess we agree on this. We just disagree on the scope of the difference between them. That's fair.

 

[jaxn]

Doom didn't steal those gauntlets though. they were given to him by Valeria Richards iirc. And if i'm not mistaken, Doom used the cosmic cube to help steal Galactus' powers.

 

[jaxn]

Well we'll have to agree to disagree. Batman and Doom have done nothing lead me to believe that their preparation and tactics are better than Thanos'. Again Thanos' planning makes him a Universal threat. Sure, he's got a lot of power, but it's not his power that has made him so dangerous. There are tons of being in the Marvel universe millions of times more powerful than Thanos, yet he's made them all his bitch on at least two occasions. What have Batman and Doom ever done to rival that?

But if we go back to the Hulk vs Thanos discussion, my point is that Thanos will do whatever he needs to do to accomplish his goal. I'm not saying that he wouldn't brawl with Hulk. He would because Thanos likes to test himself, but once he gets to the point where the fight is begin to impede on his progress, he wil do whatever it takes to end it and go about his business. The perfect example was with insane Thor. Thanos brawled with him, but when he realized it was more trouble that it was worth, he grabbed some tech and ended it instantly. He would do the same with Hulk.

Now I know Thanos>>>Doom maybe even with intelligence, but that statement about Doom never rivaling Thanos is kinda dumb when he stole Galactus' powers, actually took over Earth a few times, has collected more than 1 Infinity Gauntlets, and most of all, stole classic "God" Beyonder's powers. Doom has done some impressive things as well. Batman? Yeah he's not fucking with no one. Just my 2 cents.

lol Come on man. Read what you put. Doom stole Surfer's powers not Galactus'. Thanos has clone and improved Galactus. Think about that for a second. Thanos CLONED and IMPROVED a cosmic being that has existed since the beginning of the universe. Doom took over the Earth a few times. Thanos took over the Universe a couple times. Doom collected multiple gems. Thanos collected ALL of the gems, and unlike Doom, Thanos had to best the Elders of the Universe to get them. Doom stole classic Beyonder's powers, which if I'm not mistaken was part of classic Beyonder's plan, so that doesn't even really count. Do you really not see the difference in the scope of their accomplishments. I'm not down Doom. He's a great villain and is very crafty. I'm just pointing out that Thanos is on another level. Remember, this is Marvel, not DC. There is a pretty big jump in capabilities when going from Marvel Earth to Cosmic Marvel. Everything is amped up on the Cosmic side. When some element of the Cosmic side comes to Earth, it automatically becomes a big event for Earth. That same big event might be a run of the mill occurence as far as Cosmic Marvel goes. Thanos stands above Doom, because Thanos is Doom on a Cosmic level.

Well we'll have to agree to disagree. Batman and Doom have done nothing lead me to believe that their preparation and tactics are better than Thanos'. Again Thanos' planning makes him a Universal threat. Sure, he's got a lot of power, but it's not his power that has made him so dangerous. There are tons of being in the Marvel universe millions of times more powerful than Thanos, yet he's made them all his bitch on at least two occasions. What have Batman and Doom ever done to rival that?

But if we go back to the Hulk vs Thanos discussion, my point is that Thanos will do whatever he needs to do to accomplish his goal. I'm not saying that he wouldn't brawl with Hulk. He would because Thanos likes to test himself, but once he gets to the point where the fight is begin to impede on his progress, he wil do whatever it takes to end it and go about his business. The perfect example was with insane Thor. Thanos brawled with him, but when he realized it was more trouble that it was worth, he grabbed some tech and ended it instantly. He would do the same with Hulk.

Now I know Thanos>>>Doom maybe even with intelligence, but that statement about Doom never rivaling Thanos is kinda dumb when he stole Galactus' powers, actually took over Earth a few times, has collected more than 1 Infinity Gauntlets, and most of all, stole classic "God" Beyonder's powers. Doom has done some impressive things as well. Batman? Yeah he's not fucking with no one. Just my 2 cents.

lol Come on man. Read what you put. Doom stole Surfer's powers not Galactus'. Thanos has clone and improved Galactus. Think about that for a second. Thanos CLONED and IMPROVED a cosmic being that has existed since the beginning of the universe. Doom took over the Earth a few times. Thanos took over the Universe a couple times. Doom collected multiple gems. Thanos collected ALL of the gems, and unlike Doom, Thanos had to best the Elders of the Universe to get them. Doom stole classic Beyonder's powers, which if I'm not mistaken was part of classic Beyonder's plan, so that doesn't even really count. Do you really not see the difference in the scope of their accomplishments. I'm not down Doom. He's a great villain and is very crafty. I'm just pointing out that Thanos is on another level. Remember, this is Marvel, not DC. There is a pretty big jump in capabilities when going from Marvel Earth to Cosmic Marvel. Everything is amped up on the Cosmic side. When some element of the Cosmic side comes to Earth, it automatically becomes a big event for Earth. That same big event might be a run of the mill occurence as far as Cosmic Marvel goes. Thanos stands above Doom, because Thanos is Doom on a Cosmic level.

No, Doom stole Galactus's powers, when right before he stole Beyonders(and IIRC

iirc, Doom stole Galan's powers first and used this power to steal Beyonders.

It wasn't beyonder's plan, he just found a way to trick him into giving it up or something dumb like that) and another time when he was commenting on knowing and seeing everything in thr universe due to Galactus's cosmic awareness. Doom, a human, stole Galactus's, an entity, powers with ease.

I think Doom used the cosmic cube and an energy siphoning device to get the power

He took Beyonder, who is God essentially, powers,

When Beyonder was first introduced into Marvel, he was that dude..then they retconned him to being part of a cosmic cube, they later retconned him to being an mutant Inhuman

he actually accomplished his goal of taking over the earth and gave it up multiple times. He also beat Marquis the Death, a universal being, with years of prep after making himself immortal and refining his magic over the years. He's done a lot.

this was a cool little story arc. unfortunately Marvel seems to have forgotten all of this..i haven't checked it out in awhile but didn't it turn out that the marquis was doom?

Ehhh fair enough. Seems I was mistaken in several areas. To be honest, I think I got the account of what happened with the Beyonder mixed up with the Spiderman cartoon. In that version, the Beyonder really did let Doom think he stole the power. I do know Galactus was damn near on death's door in his appearance in the comics. It was the explanation for why the Beyonder was able to handle him so easily and possibly why Doom was able to steal his power.

Yeah iirc, Galactus was trying to get at Beyonder to end his hunger

 

[nawledge_god]

Thanos Biggest Rival Is Himself ...His Insecurities And Self Doubt...Dude Had The Infinity Gaunlet and Heart Of The Universe ....Top 3 Villains In All Of Comics IMO