Carmelo Anthony or Amare Stoudemire the f*** is the Knicks Problem?

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they need to build the team like the 2001 76ers with iverson that made the finals, melo is kinda like iverson in the way he needs to score to be effective, that team had one scorer and role players who did their part
 
Getting out of the first rd once in 9 years, there's no excuse for it if you're a super star and think of yourself as being on LeBron and wade's level.
 
I mean there are 5 teams that have a chance to win the title this year...Miami, Boston, OKC, Lakers, San An. All of those rosters are better than the Knicks roster. The problem is that the Knicks want Carmelo to play point for them and be the only person that can get buckets. That's not ok. He has to shoot a lot. It's either him or who? He is the reason why they compete. He has been running in to great teams. Why don't people shit on CP3...its all media controlled people. HOW MANY TIMES HAS CHRIS PAUL BEEN OUT OF THE FIRST ROUND? I WILL WAIT? Why are CP3 and RONDO the best PG's in the L? Amare's team had felton, gallinari, wilson chandler, which equals, shooters, perimeter defenders, and a REAL PG. And they were in the what 6th spot our east? Come on.
 
both them niggas is the problem

Amare is out of his prime and keeps getting injured and isn't a piece for a title team

Carmelo has the worst self awareness of any player in the league. Nigga thinks hes an elite player but hes not. He only been out the first round once and has a terrible work ethic and team based mindset. Even with a qulity point guard in denver in billips in his prime he couldn't get shit done.
 
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PimpMVP;4397717 said:
Aneed has an inner hate for Melo

He's the only one that showed up and yet it's his fault

Fog

no inner hat I actually like him. I like him at cuse.... But Im objective and I notice he was put on par with Kobe and Bron and he hasnt done shit.... I gave him passes then I say the shit he pulled this year which was inexcusable....

 
if anybody has 2 go, it's james dolan

but

amare>>> melo

amare played with a hall of fame pg in phx, he leaves team, team has not made play off in 2 years

melo leave nuggets, team is on the verge of eliminating a championship contender

last year STAT has mvp season ...wilson, raymond, gallo had careers years...mosgov & fields over achieved, knicks coach n front office optimistic

melo in ny= walsh leaves, mvp caliber player looked like shit... fields looked like shit... lin has amazing start , melo comes back, lin looked like shit... dantoni' looked like shit/ loses job, knicks organization has no direction.

yet amare is the problem?

amare took less shots this year, and deferred to melo, yet he's the problem?

 
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Hey new york, cleveland has a point guard who contract will be up eventually. you can start woo'ing him now like yall did last time with that one guy lol
 
Here we go....

Truth Writer;4316474 said:
Aight, I'ma keep all the way 100 bout these NY Bricks, even though I'm a Sixers fan...just cause I live in Brooklyn and I have to see these mafuckas on TV every day I go to the gym...you may "wack" or "feeling" the shit, but whatever:

The Bricks will NEVER win with Melo and Amare there in the starting line-up together.

The biggest reason is simply this: these are two of the most selfishly-offensive, lazy-oriented defensive players in the league. And they cannot compliment each other under any circumstances. But what's fucking them both is that is how their game HAS to be in order for either of them them to be effective. Peep this:

Think back to the beginning of last season when Amare was in NY on his dolo...The Bricks were good, something to be at least respected, right? Melo gets there, what happens? Chemistry gets all fucked up offensively. Defensively, neither can pick up their part of the slack for it...so, as a result, the Bricks are ass ass ass for the rest of that season, and get swept vs. the Cs in the 1st round. By then, it was to late for Melo to salvage anything after Amare and Chauncey went down.

Now, start this season with both of them in...ass ass ass ass. NO one knows why...they had all offseason to work together, and all this shit, but they still suck. BOOM.....Melo goes down and all of sudden, the Bricks win seven straight, and show some life again. Fuck Jeremy Lin. He was an anolomoly to this shit...not a driving force. The Bricks are winning or losing with or without him: why else do you think nigg....excuse me, chink nigga (for 'political correctness') could turn the ball over THAT much, and they still win? Melo comes back, what happens again: ass ass ass ass ass.

"How?" "If we got Melo, Amare, AND Lin, how could they suck again?", New Yorkers wonder. NO chemistry, stupid bitches. Didn't matter who was the coach: Dumbtoni or Mike Woodson, the shit always felt awkward with both of them there, trying to be top dog. Melo can create his own shots, but Amare cannot. And the combo of B-Diddy/Lin/Shumpert, was no where near as good as Steve Nash on his own. Because Nash was willing to make Amare a star and let him score all he wanted. Nash didn't care; more assists for him. So, Amar'e can survive on his own in a system that caters to him, but Melo being there shifts the whole system to HIS skillset and leaves Amare to fend for himself. And when the system demanded that Amar'e be fed the ball, Melo gets shut out, so someone ALWAYS loses between the two.

So then, Amare AND Lin go down...and guess what? The Bricks look like last year's Denver Nuggets before Melo got traded....so naturally, they start winning shit again. Now, Amare comes back, and we're back to Square Two...with them losing tonight at cLEAVEland, who's lost their last two, once being blown out at one point by 50 to the goddamn Washington Generals (the other to my Sixers, who pretty much surrendered the fuckin #7 seed to New York, cause we know Miami will stomp the shit out of us)....

Honestly, one of them between Melo and Amare have to go. There's only room for one no defense playing, shot-hogging gloryhound on that team and it's willing to work. And since Amare has a no-trade clause on the other three years of his five-year deal, Melo has to be moved.....again. Woodson can't fix this. James Dolan can't fix this. Jeremy Lin DAMN sure can't fix this. Hell, I don't think Phil can even work this shit out.

But, this experiment proves you can't just put good, high-priced talent on a team and expect it to work. They have to fit together.

*I know it's a bit of a titangraph, but I had to get that shit off my chest, living in this shithole called New York, and being subjected to this bullshit night in and night out.*
 
Oh, don't worry....my girl and I gots plans to get out of this fuckhole. But I gots some business to get done first, like getting my Masters.
 
if they can get everybody healthy they can be a problem, Melo has to become more of a facilitator and Amare needs to step it up on D big time, if he and Chandler can defend the post and rebound and Lin, Shumpert, and Melo run the offence then I think they can match up well with any team

Also, I don't get the whole "Carmelo and Amare play the same position"....uh...what? Since when did Carmelo become a 4?
 
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Truth Writer;4399488 said:
Here we go....

Truth Writer;4316474 said:
Aight, I'ma keep all the way 100 bout these NY Bricks, even though I'm a Sixers fan...just cause I live in Brooklyn and I have to see these mafuckas on TV every day I go to the gym...you may "wack" or "feeling" the shit, but whatever:

The Bricks will NEVER win with Melo and Amare there in the starting line-up together.

The biggest reason is simply this: these are two of the most selfishly-offensive, lazy-oriented defensive players in the league. And they cannot compliment each other under any circumstances. But what's fucking them both is that is how their game HAS to be in order for either of them them to be effective. Peep this:

Think back to the beginning of last season when Amare was in NY on his dolo...The Bricks were good, something to be at least respected, right? Melo gets there, what happens? Chemistry gets all fucked up offensively. Defensively, neither can pick up their part of the slack for it...so, as a result, the Bricks are ass ass ass for the rest of that season, and get swept vs. the Cs in the 1st round. By then, it was to late for Melo to salvage anything after Amare and Chauncey went down.

Now, start this season with both of them in...ass ass ass ass. NO one knows why...they had all offseason to work together, and all this shit, but they still suck. BOOM.....Melo goes down and all of sudden, the Bricks win seven straight, and show some life again. Fuck Jeremy Lin. He was an anolomoly to this shit...not a driving force. The Bricks are winning or losing with or without him: why else do you think nigg....excuse me, chink nigga (for 'political correctness') could turn the ball over THAT much, and they still win? Melo comes back, what happens again: ass ass ass ass ass.

"How?" "If we got Melo, Amare, AND Lin, how could they suck again?", New Yorkers wonder. NO chemistry, stupid bitches. Didn't matter who was the coach: Dumbtoni or Mike Woodson, the shit always felt awkward with both of them there, trying to be top dog. Melo can create his own shots, but Amare cannot. And the combo of B-Diddy/Lin/Shumpert, was no where near as good as Steve Nash on his own. Because Nash was willing to make Amare a star and let him score all he wanted. Nash didn't care; more assists for him. So, Amar'e can survive on his own in a system that caters to him, but Melo being there shifts the whole system to HIS skillset and leaves Amare to fend for himself. And when the system demanded that Amar'e be fed the ball, Melo gets shut out, so someone ALWAYS loses between the two.

So then, Amare AND Lin go down...and guess what? The Bricks look like last year's Denver Nuggets before Melo got traded....so naturally, they start winning shit again. Now, Amare comes back, and we're back to Square Two...with them losing tonight at cLEAVEland, who's lost their last two, once being blown out at one point by 50 to the goddamn Washington Generals (the other to my Sixers, who pretty much surrendered the fuckin #7 seed to New York, cause we know Miami will stomp the shit out of us)....

Honestly, one of them between Melo and Amare have to go. There's only room for one no defense playing, shot-hogging gloryhound on that team and it's willing to work. And since Amare has a no-trade clause on the other three years of his five-year deal, Melo has to be moved.....again. Woodson can't fix this. James Dolan can't fix this. Jeremy Lin DAMN sure can't fix this. Hell, I don't think Phil can even work this shit out.

But, this experiment proves you can't just put good, high-priced talent on a team and expect it to work. They have to fit together.

*I know it's a bit of a titangraph, but I had to get that shit off my chest, living in this shithole called New York, and being subjected to this bullshit night in and night out.*
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