Carlos Santana: Beyonce's Not a Singer

[blackrain]

I'm not quite sure why anyone would disagree with Carlos. What he said, isn't a shot a Beyonce if you are an objective listener. Can Beyonce sing? Yes. Can Rihanna sing? Yes. But they aren't singers in the context that Carlos was attempting to convey. Modern day singers are artists like Jill Scott, Ledisi, Bilal, and Keke Wyatt.

But whatever the case foh with an Adele. I don't mess with white artists to tough anyways if, at all. There's just too many amazing Black artists across all genres of music for me to have to.

No

Hold up...now Rhianna slander is going too far. One thing we not gonna do is talk down on that Bajan goddess with her sexy ass.

 

[king hassan]

I'm not quite sure why anyone would disagree with Carlos. What he said, isn't a shot a Beyonce if you are an objective listener. Can Beyonce sing? Yes. Can Rihanna sing? Yes. But they aren't singers in the context that Carlos was attempting to convey. Modern day singers are artists like Jill Scott, Ledisi, Bilal, and Keke Wyatt.

But whatever the case foh with an Adele. I don't mess with white artists to tough anyways if, at all. There's just too many amazing Black artists across all genres of music for me to have to.

No

Hold up...now Rhianna slander is going too far. One thing we not gonna do is talk down on that Bajan goddess with her sexy ass.

There you go, you looking at the outward appearance, but she can't sing homie

 

[soul rattler]

It's not supposed to be the same. Beyonce doesn't sound like Jill Scott, Jill Scott don't sound like Jazmine Sullivan, Jazmine Sullivan doesn't sound like India Arie, India Arie don't sound like Erykah Badu, etc. Unlike those singers who, let's be honest, don't have the versatility she does, she doesn't only have to make one type of music. A couple of them tried and failed miserably.

If all you can throw at her is that she ain't doing it like everybody else as if that's a strike against her, that's your problem. Not hers. And your bias doesn't negate her versatility.

I'm not a Stan for anybody but it's funny to me when people look at a duck looking walking and quacking like a duck and swear up and down its a chicken.

Slow your caping down man. I'm not downing Beyonce. I just don't think she would be a good Soul singer. Nobody said she has to sing just like Jill Scott. That wasn't the point and you know that. I pointed out that Soul music doesn't sound like Pop R&B. That's why they are considered two different genres. Beyonce sang the song, the way she sings all of her ballads, which was just fine from an R&B standpoint. It didn't sound soulful like Jill Scott's rendition. That's the point. A ER doctor is probably more versatile than a neurologist. That doesn't mean an ER doctor would make a good neurologist.

All of that wasn't directed at just you.

But you're the one who said it doesn't sound the same. Unless you're talking about Future and Designer, no two artists are supposed to sound the same.

 

[desertrain10]

It's not supposed to be the same. Beyonce doesn't sound like Jill Scott, Jill Scott don't sound like Jazmine Sullivan, Jazmine Sullivan doesn't sound like India Arie, India Arie don't sound like Erykah Badu, etc. Unlike those singers who, let's be honest, don't have the versatility she does, she doesn't only have to make one type of music. A couple of them tried and failed miserably.

If all you can throw at her is that she ain't doing it like everybody else as if that's a strike against her, that's your problem. Not hers. And your bias doesn't negate her versatility.

I'm not a Stan for anybody but it's funny to me when people look at a duck looking walking and quacking like a duck and swear up and down its a chicken.

Slow your caping down man. I'm not downing Beyonce. I just don't think she would be a good Soul singer. Nobody said she has to sing just like Jill Scott. That wasn't the point and you know that. I pointed out that Soul music doesn't sound like Pop R&B. That's why they are considered two different genres. Beyonce sang the song, the way she sings all of her ballads, which was just fine from an R&B standpoint. It didn't sound soulful like Jill Scott's rendition. That's the point. A ER doctor is probably more versatile than a neurologist. That doesn't mean an ER doctor would make a good neurologist.

you're suggesting her voice lacks soul, that's not downing her alil? lol

 

[blackrain]

I'm not quite sure why anyone would disagree with Carlos. What he said, isn't a shot a Beyonce if you are an objective listener. Can Beyonce sing? Yes. Can Rihanna sing? Yes. But they aren't singers in the context that Carlos was attempting to convey. Modern day singers are artists like Jill Scott, Ledisi, Bilal, and Keke Wyatt.

But whatever the case foh with an Adele. I don't mess with white artists to tough anyways if, at all. There's just too many amazing Black artists across all genres of music for me to have to.

No

Hold up...now Rhianna slander is going too far. One thing we not gonna do is talk down on that Bajan goddess with her sexy ass.

There you go, you looking at the outward appearance, but she can't sing homie

You the big homie all day...but Rhianna slander ain't getting no shine big bro. I'd risk it all for her fine ass lol

 

[BigBallsNoWorries]

Beyoncé did win an NAACP award the day before she lost the Grammy and nobody gave a fuck. I wish people would ignore the Grammys like they do everything else.

Havent watched the grammys in years

 

[The Lonious Monk]

It's not supposed to be the same. Beyonce doesn't sound like Jill Scott, Jill Scott don't sound like Jazmine Sullivan, Jazmine Sullivan doesn't sound like India Arie, India Arie don't sound like Erykah Badu, etc. Unlike those singers who, let's be honest, don't have the versatility she does, she doesn't only have to make one type of music. A couple of them tried and failed miserably.

If all you can throw at her is that she ain't doing it like everybody else as if that's a strike against her, that's your problem. Not hers. And your bias doesn't negate her versatility.

I'm not a Stan for anybody but it's funny to me when people look at a duck looking walking and quacking like a duck and swear up and down its a chicken.

Slow your caping down man. I'm not downing Beyonce. I just don't think she would be a good Soul singer. Nobody said she has to sing just like Jill Scott. That wasn't the point and you know that. I pointed out that Soul music doesn't sound like Pop R&B. That's why they are considered two different genres. Beyonce sang the song, the way she sings all of her ballads, which was just fine from an R&B standpoint. It didn't sound soulful like Jill Scott's rendition. That's the point. A ER doctor is probably more versatile than a neurologist. That doesn't mean an ER doctor would make a good neurologist.

you're suggesting her voice lacks soul, that's not downing her alil? lol

No because I don't consider her a Soul singer. She's a pop star that also has some good pure R&B ballads under her belt. I don't think it's necessary for her to have a soulful voice to excel in that lane.

Do you think her rendition of "He Loves Me" was Soulful?

 

[nujerz84]

Beyonce is a better singer and makes better music to me.

Adele fucking sucks.

 

[soul rattler]

It's not supposed to be the same. Beyonce doesn't sound like Jill Scott, Jill Scott don't sound like Jazmine Sullivan, Jazmine Sullivan doesn't sound like India Arie, India Arie don't sound like Erykah Badu, etc. Unlike those singers who, let's be honest, don't have the versatility she does, she doesn't only have to make one type of music. A couple of them tried and failed miserably.

If all you can throw at her is that she ain't doing it like everybody else as if that's a strike against her, that's your problem. Not hers. And your bias doesn't negate her versatility.

I'm not a Stan for anybody but it's funny to me when people look at a duck looking walking and quacking like a duck and swear up and down its a chicken.

Slow your caping down man. I'm not downing Beyonce. I just don't think she would be a good Soul singer. Nobody said she has to sing just like Jill Scott. That wasn't the point and you know that. I pointed out that Soul music doesn't sound like Pop R&B. That's why they are considered two different genres. Beyonce sang the song, the way she sings all of her ballads, which was just fine from an R&B standpoint. It didn't sound soulful like Jill Scott's rendition. That's the point. A ER doctor is probably more versatile than a neurologist. That doesn't mean an ER doctor would make a good neurologist.

you're suggesting her voice lacks soul, that's not downing her alil? lol

No because I don't consider her a Soul singer. She's a pop star that also has some good pure R&B ballads under her belt. I don't think it's necessary for her to have a soulful voice to excel in that lane.

Do you think her rendition of "He Loves Me" was Soulful?

Bruh... if James Brown is the king of soul, we can say Beyonce got soul.

 

[konceptjones]

I'm not quite sure why anyone would disagree with Carlos. What he said, isn't a shot a Beyonce if you are an objective listener. Can Beyonce sing? Yes. Can Rihanna sing? Yes. But they aren't singers in the context that Carlos was attempting to convey. Modern day singers are artists like Jill Scott, Ledisi, Bilal, and Keke Wyatt.

But whatever the case foh with an Adele. I don't mess with white artists to tough anyways if, at all. There's just too many amazing Black artists across all genres of music for me to have to.

No

Hold up...now Rhianna slander is going too far. One thing we not gonna do is talk down on that Bajan goddess with her sexy ass.

There you go, you looking at the outward appearance, but she can't sing homie

You the big homie all day...but Rhianna slander ain't getting no shine big bro. I'd risk it all for her fine ass lol

her looks ain't got nothin to do with her singing voice. Rhianna is an average singer at her best, mediocre on most days. What you hear is the result of a shitload of pitch correction (via autotune) and other effects.

 

[Undefeatable]

Cant believe nigga outchea caping for some fat white chick from Britain over a more talented Black woman.... Oh wait this is the IC...

So if a black person thinks that she's a better singer than Beyonce, is he or she supposed to say that Bey is better cause she black?

FOH b.

 

[25centsandwich]

I'm not quite sure why anyone would disagree with Carlos. What he said, isn't a shot a Beyonce if you are an objective listener. Can Beyonce sing? Yes. Can Rihanna sing? Yes. But they aren't singers in the context that Carlos was attempting to convey. Modern day singers are artists like Jill Scott, Ledisi, Bilal, and Keke Wyatt.

But whatever the case foh with an Adele. I don't mess with white artists to tough anyways if, at all. There's just too many amazing Black artists across all genres of music for me to have to.

No

Hold up...now Rhianna slander is going too far. One thing we not gonna do is talk down on that Bajan goddess with her sexy ass.

There you go, you looking at the outward appearance, but she can't sing homie

You the big homie all day...but Rhianna slander ain't getting no shine big bro. I'd risk it all for her fine ass lol

her looks ain't got nothin to do with her singing voice. Rhianna is an average singer at her best, mediocre on most days. What you hear is the result of a shitload of pitch correction (via autotune) and other effects.

I dont think rihanna can sing per se...but to me she's always had better pop sensabilities and charisma than just about anybody including beyonce....

Its why other singers cant make hits with the same producers and same writers...rihanna does it and its a smash...

In fact ive always thought beyonce should be more like rihanna...rihanna sticks to her style and range and as a result she can turn any song into hers...from "we found love" to "pour it up"...instead of beyonce oversinging on a track and making it an awkward mashup of trendy song and her classic r&b delivery...

 

[desertrain10]

It's not supposed to be the same. Beyonce doesn't sound like Jill Scott, Jill Scott don't sound like Jazmine Sullivan, Jazmine Sullivan doesn't sound like India Arie, India Arie don't sound like Erykah Badu, etc. Unlike those singers who, let's be honest, don't have the versatility she does, she doesn't only have to make one type of music. A couple of them tried and failed miserably.

If all you can throw at her is that she ain't doing it like everybody else as if that's a strike against her, that's your problem. Not hers. And your bias doesn't negate her versatility.

I'm not a Stan for anybody but it's funny to me when people look at a duck looking walking and quacking like a duck and swear up and down its a chicken.

Slow your caping down man. I'm not downing Beyonce. I just don't think she would be a good Soul singer. Nobody said she has to sing just like Jill Scott. That wasn't the point and you know that. I pointed out that Soul music doesn't sound like Pop R&B. That's why they are considered two different genres. Beyonce sang the song, the way she sings all of her ballads, which was just fine from an R&B standpoint. It didn't sound soulful like Jill Scott's rendition. That's the point. A ER doctor is probably more versatile than a neurologist. That doesn't mean an ER doctor would make a good neurologist.

you're suggesting her voice lacks soul, that's not downing her alil? lol

No because I don't consider her a Soul singer. She's a pop star that also has some good pure R&B ballads under her belt. I don't think it's necessary for her to have a soulful voice to excel in that lane.

Bruh....

So her voice isnt soul because you dont consider her a soul singer, assuming a soul singer is one who sings soul

What???

Do you think her rendition of "He Loves Me" was Soulful?

I give Jill's rendition the edge naturally

But yes Beyonce's sounded soulful to me

 

[Mr.LV]

ive never seen Beyonce restart a live performance

#Facts

Fell down some stairs ..... kept singing

Hair caught in a fan .... kept singing

Crazy fan tried to snatch her off stage ...... kept singing

She gives you every bit of what you paid for them tickets, that's for sure

Nobody in the mainstream works as hard as Beyoncé

 

[The Lonious Monk]

It's not supposed to be the same. Beyonce doesn't sound like Jill Scott, Jill Scott don't sound like Jazmine Sullivan, Jazmine Sullivan doesn't sound like India Arie, India Arie don't sound like Erykah Badu, etc. Unlike those singers who, let's be honest, don't have the versatility she does, she doesn't only have to make one type of music. A couple of them tried and failed miserably.

If all you can throw at her is that she ain't doing it like everybody else as if that's a strike against her, that's your problem. Not hers. And your bias doesn't negate her versatility.

I'm not a Stan for anybody but it's funny to me when people look at a duck looking walking and quacking like a duck and swear up and down its a chicken.

Slow your caping down man. I'm not downing Beyonce. I just don't think she would be a good Soul singer. Nobody said she has to sing just like Jill Scott. That wasn't the point and you know that. I pointed out that Soul music doesn't sound like Pop R&B. That's why they are considered two different genres. Beyonce sang the song, the way she sings all of her ballads, which was just fine from an R&B standpoint. It didn't sound soulful like Jill Scott's rendition. That's the point. A ER doctor is probably more versatile than a neurologist. That doesn't mean an ER doctor would make a good neurologist.

you're suggesting her voice lacks soul, that's not downing her alil? lol

No because I don't consider her a Soul singer. She's a pop star that also has some good pure R&B ballads under her belt. I don't think it's necessary for her to have a soulful voice to excel in that lane.

Do you think her rendition of "He Loves Me" was Soulful?

Bruh... if James Brown is the king of soul, we can say Beyonce got soul.

You serious? How much James Brown have you listened too? He made some pop song, but he got on with his old school gospel/blues/soul type singing. That shouldn't have even popped into your mind.

 

[ThaNubianGod]

Nearly all modern R&B singers can't really sing as well as in the past(more about looks the last 20 years), but I wouldn't say Beyonce can't sing at all.

 

[Will Munny]

surfboard

 

[blackrain]

I'm not quite sure why anyone would disagree with Carlos. What he said, isn't a shot a Beyonce if you are an objective listener. Can Beyonce sing? Yes. Can Rihanna sing? Yes. But they aren't singers in the context that Carlos was attempting to convey. Modern day singers are artists like Jill Scott, Ledisi, Bilal, and Keke Wyatt.

But whatever the case foh with an Adele. I don't mess with white artists to tough anyways if, at all. There's just too many amazing Black artists across all genres of music for me to have to.

No

Hold up...now Rhianna slander is going too far. One thing we not gonna do is talk down on that Bajan goddess with her sexy ass.

There you go, you looking at the outward appearance, but she can't sing homie

You the big homie all day...but Rhianna slander ain't getting no shine big bro. I'd risk it all for her fine ass lol

her looks ain't got nothin to do with her singing voice. Rhianna is an average singer at her best, mediocre on most days. What you hear is the result of a shitload of pitch correction (via autotune) and other effects.

I ain't never say she was Aretha Franklin...but fuck that it don't matter. When it comes to Rhianna there's only two phrases that matter. She's fine and

 

[usmarin3]

Why is Adele being rewarded for making the same album 3 times in a row. 19,21, and 25 all sound alike. If that was anyone else people would say she isn't showing any growth or range.

 

[Kwan Dai]

Why is Adele being rewarded for making the same album 3 times in a row. 19,21, and 25 all sound alike. If that was anyone else people would say she isn't showing any growth or range.

I agree with you. Adele is one dimensional. This is classic white folks work less and get more. Beyonce is a workaholic and while she certainly is struggling, in her field there are clearly lessor artists getting the nod over her.