Carlos Santana: Beyonce's Not a Singer

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blackgod813;c-9646691 said:
So carlos apolgised wow

I would like to clarify a comment that was reported when I was doing an interview for some upcoming shows in Australia & New Zealand. My intent was to congratulate Adele on her amazing night at the Grammies. My comment about Beyonce was regretfully taken out of context. I have the utmost respect for her as an artist and a person. She deserves all the accolades that come her way. I wish Beyonce and her family all the best.

Carlos

This ain't no apology bruh.

I mean, it's his opinion and all but it's still wrong as fuck.
 
soul rattler;c-9646762 said:
blackgod813;c-9646691 said:
So carlos apolgised wow

I would like to clarify a comment that was reported when I was doing an interview for some upcoming shows in Australia & New Zealand. My intent was to congratulate Adele on her amazing night at the Grammies. My comment about Beyonce was regretfully taken out of context. I have the utmost respect for her as an artist and a person. She deserves all the accolades that come her way. I wish Beyonce and her family all the best.

Carlos

This ain't no apology bruh.

I mean, it's his opinion and all but it's still wrong as fuck.

Exactly. People took it as him insulting Beyonce. He wasn't really insulting her, just giving his opinion on why he believed Adele was more deserving. These obnoxious fans have to stop taking every criticism of someone they like as a person attack on them.
 
I'm not quite sure why anyone would disagree with Carlos. What he said, isn't a shot a Beyonce if you are an objective listener. Can Beyonce sing? Yes. Can Rihanna sing? Yes. But they aren't singers in the context that Carlos was attempting to convey. Modern day singers are artists like Jill Scott, Ledisi, Bilal, and Keke Wyatt.

But whatever the case foh with an Adele. I don't mess with white artists to tough anyways if, at all. There's just too many amazing Black artists across all genres of music for me to have to.
 
The Lonious Monk;c-9646879 said:
soul rattler;c-9646762 said:
blackgod813;c-9646691 said:
So carlos apolgised wow

I would like to clarify a comment that was reported when I was doing an interview for some upcoming shows in Australia & New Zealand. My intent was to congratulate Adele on her amazing night at the Grammies. My comment about Beyonce was regretfully taken out of context. I have the utmost respect for her as an artist and a person. She deserves all the accolades that come her way. I wish Beyonce and her family all the best.

Carlos

This ain't no apology bruh.

I mean, it's his opinion and all but it's still wrong as fuck.

Exactly. People took it as him insulting Beyonce. He wasn't really insulting her, just giving his opinion on why he believed Adele was more deserving. These obnoxious fans have to stop taking every criticism of someone they like as a person attack on them.

Hmmmmmm. Subliminals?
 
As an aside. I would like to see Beyone get with artists like, Quest Love, Robert Glasper, Jill Scott and Badu. Just do some real soul\jazz\R&B type shit with some depth and stop with the shallow, cliche look at me shit. Just one album. Then she can go back to the chicken head, chi chi man anthems. But she is too talented to not dig deeper.
 
Kwan Dai;c-9646908 said:
As an aside. I would like to see Beyone get with artists like, Quest Love, Robert Glasper, Jill Scott and Badu. Just do some real soul\jazz\R&B type shit with some depth and stop with the shallow, cliche look at me shit. Just one album. Then she can go back to the chicken head, chi chi man anthems. But she is too talented to not dig deeper.

I don't think she would do that. There's no profit in it for her. She's like her husband in that they jump on whatever trend or style is popular.
 
The Lonious Monk;c-9646916 said:
Kwan Dai;c-9646908 said:
As an aside. I would like to see Beyone get with artists like, Quest Love, Robert Glasper, Jill Scott and Badu. Just do some real soul\jazz\R&B type shit with some depth and stop with the shallow, cliche look at me shit. Just one album. Then she can go back to the chicken head, chi chi man anthems. But she is too talented to not dig deeper.

I don't think she would do that. There's no profit in it for her. She's like her husband in that they jump on whatever trend or style is popular.

There's artistic profit. But I agree with you. I don't think it's her though. I think it's her pop fan base that wouldn't go for it in addition to her pop team of handlers.
 
Kwan Dai;c-9646908 said:
As an aside. I would like to see Beyone get with artists like, Quest Love, Robert Glasper, Jill Scott and Badu. Just do some real soul\jazz\R&B type shit with some depth and stop with the shallow, cliche look at me shit. Just one album. Then she can go back to the chicken head, chi chi man anthems. But she is too talented to not dig deeper.

Isn't that what 4 was and it was her lowest selling album to date and mfs was saying she fell off. 4 was pretty much a pure r and b album.

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usmarin3;c-9646958 said:
Kwan Dai;c-9646908 said:
As an aside. I would like to see Beyone get with artists like, Quest Love, Robert Glasper, Jill Scott and Badu. Just do some real soul\jazz\R&B type shit with some depth and stop with the shallow, cliche look at me shit. Just one album. Then she can go back to the chicken head, chi chi man anthems. But she is too talented to not dig deeper.

Isn't that what 4 was and it was her lowest selling album to date and mfs was saying she fell off. 4 was pretty much a pure r and b album.

R2rOS.png

It couldn't have been if, the artists, singers, song writers and producers didn't work on the album with her.

The album not no performing well supports my theory of Beyonce's fan base.
 
usmarin3;c-9646958 said:
Kwan Dai;c-9646908 said:
As an aside. I would like to see Beyone get with artists like, Quest Love, Robert Glasper, Jill Scott and Badu. Just do some real soul\jazz\R&B type shit with some depth and stop with the shallow, cliche look at me shit. Just one album. Then she can go back to the chicken head, chi chi man anthems. But she is too talented to not dig deeper.

Isn't that what 4 was and it was her lowest selling album to date and mfs was saying she fell off. 4 was pretty much a pure r and b album.

R2rOS.png

4 album I thought she was falling out of the mainstream but then she dropped Beyonce album and it rejuvenated her career.
 
Kwan Dai;c-9646965 said:
usmarin3;c-9646958 said:
Kwan Dai;c-9646908 said:
As an aside. I would like to see Beyone get with artists like, Quest Love, Robert Glasper, Jill Scott and Badu. Just do some real soul\jazz\R&B type shit with some depth and stop with the shallow, cliche look at me shit. Just one album. Then she can go back to the chicken head, chi chi man anthems. But she is too talented to not dig deeper.

Isn't that what 4 was and it was her lowest selling album to date and mfs was saying she fell off. 4 was pretty much a pure r and b album.

R2rOS.png

It couldn't have been if, the artists, singers, song writers and producers didn't work on the album with her.

The album not no performing well supports my theory of Beyonce's fan base.

If all those artist you listed can't make that album of the year winner for themselves what makes you think they're gonna do it for Beyonce. Not to mention Beyonces tone and voice is more suited for pop/rnb compared to the neo soul sound of Badu, Roots,etc. Can you see Beyonce making a D'angelo, Raphael Saadiq,etc type album.
 
usmarin3;c-9646977 said:
Kwan Dai;c-9646965 said:
usmarin3;c-9646958 said:
Kwan Dai;c-9646908 said:
As an aside. I would like to see Beyone get with artists like, Quest Love, Robert Glasper, Jill Scott and Badu. Just do some real soul\jazz\R&B type shit with some depth and stop with the shallow, cliche look at me shit. Just one album. Then she can go back to the chicken head, chi chi man anthems. But she is too talented to not dig deeper.

Isn't that what 4 was and it was her lowest selling album to date and mfs was saying she fell off. 4 was pretty much a pure r and b album.

R2rOS.png

It couldn't have been if, the artists, singers, song writers and producers didn't work on the album with her.

The album not no performing well supports my theory of Beyonce's fan base.

If all those artist you listed can't make that album of the year winner for themselves what makes you think they're gonna do it for Beyonce. Not to mention Beyonces tone and voice is more suited for pop/rnb compared to the neo soul sound of Badu, Roots,etc. Can you see Beyonce making a D'angelo, Raphael Saadiq,etc type album.

I'm not interested in top 40 hits Mr. Casey Kasem, Dick Clark. Or album of the year. And yes I can see Beyonce making an album of that type. I believe she is that talented of an artist.
 
usmarin3;c-9646958 said:
Kwan Dai;c-9646908 said:
As an aside. I would like to see Beyone get with artists like, Quest Love, Robert Glasper, Jill Scott and Badu. Just do some real soul\jazz\R&B type shit with some depth and stop with the shallow, cliche look at me shit. Just one album. Then she can go back to the chicken head, chi chi man anthems. But she is too talented to not dig deeper.

Isn't that what 4 was and it was her lowest selling album to date and mfs was saying she fell off. 4 was pretty much a pure r and b album.

R2rOS.png

4 the best album Beyoncé done

Easily her best work

If she was a great singer instead of a really good one, it probably would be considered classic
 
Kwan Dai;c-9646986 said:
usmarin3;c-9646977 said:
Kwan Dai;c-9646965 said:
usmarin3;c-9646958 said:
Kwan Dai;c-9646908 said:
As an aside. I would like to see Beyone get with artists like, Quest Love, Robert Glasper, Jill Scott and Badu. Just do some real soul\jazz\R&B type shit with some depth and stop with the shallow, cliche look at me shit. Just one album. Then she can go back to the chicken head, chi chi man anthems. But she is too talented to not dig deeper.

Isn't that what 4 was and it was her lowest selling album to date and mfs was saying she fell off. 4 was pretty much a pure r and b album.

R2rOS.png

It couldn't have been if, the artists, singers, song writers and producers didn't work on the album with her.

The album not no performing well supports my theory of Beyonce's fan base.

If all those artist you listed can't make that album of the year winner for themselves what makes you think they're gonna do it for Beyonce. Not to mention Beyonces tone and voice is more suited for pop/rnb compared to the neo soul sound of Badu, Roots,etc. Can you see Beyonce making a D'angelo, Raphael Saadiq,etc type album.

I'm not interested in top 40 hits Mr. Casey Kasem, Dick Clark. Or album of the year. And yes I can see Beyonce making an album of that type. I believe she is that talented of an artist.

I personally don't believe she has the tone or sound to make an album like that. Neo-Soul requires an Earthy sound and i don't see Beyonce doing that. That's like saying Chris Brown should make an album like that.
 
usmarin3;c-9647003 said:
Kwan Dai;c-9646986 said:
usmarin3;c-9646977 said:
Kwan Dai;c-9646965 said:
usmarin3;c-9646958 said:
Kwan Dai;c-9646908 said:
As an aside. I would like to see Beyone get with artists like, Quest Love, Robert Glasper, Jill Scott and Badu. Just do some real soul\jazz\R&B type shit with some depth and stop with the shallow, cliche look at me shit. Just one album. Then she can go back to the chicken head, chi chi man anthems. But she is too talented to not dig deeper.

Isn't that what 4 was and it was her lowest selling album to date and mfs was saying she fell off. 4 was pretty much a pure r and b album.

R2rOS.png

It couldn't have been if, the artists, singers, song writers and producers didn't work on the album with her.

The album not no performing well supports my theory of Beyonce's fan base.

If all those artist you listed can't make that album of the year winner for themselves what makes you think they're gonna do it for Beyonce. Not to mention Beyonces tone and voice is more suited for pop/rnb compared to the neo soul sound of Badu, Roots,etc. Can you see Beyonce making a D'angelo, Raphael Saadiq,etc type album.

I'm not interested in top 40 hits Mr. Casey Kasem, Dick Clark. Or album of the year. And yes I can see Beyonce making an album of that type. I believe she is that talented of an artist.

I personally don't believe she has the tone or sound to make an album like that. Neo-Soul requires an Earthy sound and i don't see Beyonce doing that. That's like saying Chris Brown should make an album like that.

I could see her doing a couple songs like that. She has that kinda versatility. I don't see a whole album though.
 
usmarin3;c-9647003 said:
Kwan Dai;c-9646986 said:
usmarin3;c-9646977 said:
Kwan Dai;c-9646965 said:
usmarin3;c-9646958 said:
Kwan Dai;c-9646908 said:
As an aside. I would like to see Beyone get with artists like, Quest Love, Robert Glasper, Jill Scott and Badu. Just do some real soul\jazz\R&B type shit with some depth and stop with the shallow, cliche look at me shit. Just one album. Then she can go back to the chicken head, chi chi man anthems. But she is too talented to not dig deeper.

Isn't that what 4 was and it was her lowest selling album to date and mfs was saying she fell off. 4 was pretty much a pure r and b album.

R2rOS.png

It couldn't have been if, the artists, singers, song writers and producers didn't work on the album with her.

The album not no performing well supports my theory of Beyonce's fan base.

If all those artist you listed can't make that album of the year winner for themselves what makes you think they're gonna do it for Beyonce. Not to mention Beyonces tone and voice is more suited for pop/rnb compared to the neo soul sound of Badu, Roots,etc. Can you see Beyonce making a D'angelo, Raphael Saadiq,etc type album.

I'm not interested in top 40 hits Mr. Casey Kasem, Dick Clark. Or album of the year. And yes I can see Beyonce making an album of that type. I believe she is that talented of an artist.

I personally don't believe she has the tone or sound to make an album like that. Neo-Soul requires an Earthy sound and i don't see Beyonce doing that. That's like saying Chris Brown should make an album like that.

That's because, you don't know music. I recall Prince saying after having worked with Beyonce he was pleased with her knowledge of musical scales. Particularly, mixolydian and Egyptian styles. Which, translates to her having used her voice to explore various notes and octaves. Badu isn't the strongest vocalist either. However, her style, song writing and ability to use her voice in unique ways is what gives the organic earthy feel you mentioned. Working with such artists Beyonce could explore some of the same methods of producing that style of music. Again, she is that talented.
 
Man @usmarin3 stop caping!

If Jigga were to drop an album tomorrow with only either Just Blaze or DJ Premier beats he'd still go plat.

If Beyoncé were to go on that Earthy shit with the likes of Saadiq, ?uestlove, Q-Tip, Karriem Riggins etc which I think she can she'll still go plat! She's made a brand for herself already... she did a couple of songs like that on her self titled album.
 
rip.dilla;c-9647021 said:
Man @usmarin3 stop caping!

If Jigga were to drop an album tomorrow with only either Just Blaze or DJ Premier beats he'd still go plat.

If Beyoncé were to go on that Earthy shit with the likes of Saadiq, ?uestlove, Q-Tip, Karriem Riggins etc which I think she can she'll still go plat! She's made a brand for herself already... she did a couple of songs like that on her self titled album.

That's not what we are speaking about. We know Jay would go platinum and we know Beyonce would go platinum. The question is would her album win a Grammy for album of the year?
 
rip.dilla;c-9647021 said:
Man @usmarin3 stop caping!

If Jigga were to drop an album tomorrow with only either Just Blaze or DJ Premier beats he'd still go plat.

If Beyoncé were to go on that Earthy shit with the likes of Saadiq, ?uestlove, Q-Tip, Karriem Riggins etc which I think she can she'll still go plat! She's made a brand for herself already... she did a couple of songs like that on her self titled album.

I agree. She is that big. She's making mediocre music now and still selling.

I think she's sound great with them cats. They would bring shit out of her that she didn't know she had. I am sure of it.
 

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