Carlos Santana: Beyonce's Not a Singer

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its....JOHN B;c-9645613 said:
R.D.;c-9645601 said:
Beyoncé can sing

As great as she is, she doesn't make great music

You ain't going be 50 talking about "to the left, to the left"

But then again, what pop music stands the test of time

The hate Adele gets is hilarious...that fat bitch can go

She was 24 when to the left came out

Anita was 25 when the Songstress came out

Angel

Best thing yet

No more tears

And that wasn't my point anyway, replace to the left with a song off Lemonade if you wish
 
R.D.;c-9645652 said:
its....JOHN B;c-9645613 said:
R.D.;c-9645601 said:
Beyoncé can sing

As great as she is, she doesn't make great music

You ain't going be 50 talking about "to the left, to the left"

But then again, what pop music stands the test of time

The hate Adele gets is hilarious...that fat bitch can go

She was 24 when to the left came out

Anita was 25 when the Songstress came out

Angel

Best thing yet

No more tears

And that wasn't my point anyway, replace to the left with a song off Lemonade if you wish

I agreed with the point, just not using to the left as an example
 
its....JOHN B;c-9645613 said:
R.D.;c-9645601 said:
Beyoncé can sing

As great as she is, she doesn't make great music

You ain't going be 50 talking about "to the left, to the left"

But then again, what pop music stands the test of time

The hate Adele gets is hilarious...that fat bitch can go

She was 24 when to the left came out

I've never bought any of her albums, but you have to be deaf or just dishonest to imply that Beyonce's music content hasn't evolved over these last 15 plus years.....
 
To me it's a slight to hiphop/urban music more than anything. That's why the Grammy's keep shitting on urban act. Adele only won the best album due to the fact it's a more traditional music album. Them motherfuckers don't respect hiphop music plain and simple.

As for the Beyonce can't sing nonsense. Look at her Love On Top performance at the MTV Awards when she was pregnant. Adele is the definition of one dimensional. That bitch sings the same slow tempo tracks every fucking record. She fucks up her George Michael performance singing off key and shit yet she gets praised for being mediocre.
 
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gns;c-9645558 said:
Not the first musician ive heard say this(rumor has it prince said the same)

They must got sensitive dog hearing cause she sounds like she can sing to me

Wtf am i missing

Prince fuck with her heavy and so did MJ.
 
R.D.;c-9645652 said:
its....JOHN B;c-9645613 said:
R.D.;c-9645601 said:
Beyoncé can sing

As great as she is, she doesn't make great music

You ain't going be 50 talking about "to the left, to the left"

But then again, what pop music stands the test of time

The hate Adele gets is hilarious...that fat bitch can go

She was 24 when to the left came out

Anita was 25 when the Songstress came out

Angel

Best thing yet

No more tears

And that wasn't my point anyway, replace to the left with a song off Lemonade if you wish

you comparing apples & oranges,tho

Sure ,it's singing, but there are different "denomination" to being a singer

For instance, would it really be fair to compare Aretha Franklin to Sade

or Luther Vandross to Micheal Jackson??
 
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Ol Jay's;c-9645719 said:
what does singing better have to do with "album of the year", didn't Kendrick win last year?

Well considering you can't see Beyonce dancing, shaking her ass, and all that other stuff on the actual album, I'd say who sings better probably has a lot to do with it.
 
Ol Jay's;c-9645719 said:
what does singing better have to do with "album of the year", didn't Kendrick win last year?

Nope Taylor swift snatch that album of the year and beck beat beyonce the year before for album of the year.
 
Beyonce's other offerings are the only reason this discussion is permissible.

Adele is largely overrated, imo.
 
The Lonious Monk;c-9645725 said:
Ol Jay's;c-9645719 said:
what does singing better have to do with "album of the year", didn't Kendrick win last year?

Well considering you can't see Beyonce dancing, shaking her ass, and all that other stuff on the actual album, I'd say who sings better probably has a lot to do with it.

not really.

its album of the year, not best vocal performance

albums of different genres are nominated, so who sings better isn't that much of a factor
 
If it was about singing Taylor Swift shouldn't even be nominated so why is it all problem all of a sudden when a black/urban artist is in the run. People keep changing the criteria.
 
usmarin3;c-9645758 said:
If it was about singing Taylor Swift shouldn't even be nominated so why is it all problem all of a sudden when a black/urban artist is in the run. People keep changing the criteria.

right

and what does "urban contemporary" mean exactly
 
desertrain10;c-9645776 said:
usmarin3;c-9645758 said:
If it was about singing Taylor Swift shouldn't even be nominated so why is it all problem all of a sudden when a black/urban artist is in the run. People keep changing the criteria.

right

and what does "urban contemporary" mean exactly

It's a category they created to minimize black artist imo and shut them out of the major categories (Album of the year, Record of the year, and song of the year). Truth of the matter is Adele is making urban music, but they don't pigeonhole her to the urban categories. Let someone like Jill Scott or Jazmine Sullivan make an album like 25 and they would never leave that urban category.
 
gns;c-9645558 said:
Not the first musician ive heard say this(rumor has it prince said the same)

They must got sensitive dog hearing cause she sounds like she can sing to me

Wtf am i missing

Beyonce is good at yelling into the mic. That's what her "singing" amounts to.

It's like Madonna vs Cyndi Lauper or Britney Spears vs Christina Aguilera. One can sing a bit and is entertaining to watch because of their showmanship, the other can SANG and hold it down without anything else happening.

Beyonce's voice is largely atonal, there's no real range there, just loudness and runs. She could never hold a candle to a Sade, Anita Baker, Roberta Flack or the like. What she does passes for singing these days because she's got a strong promo team behind her and money to keep her records in rotation.

 

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