Cam'ron Says Kids Think "You're Wack" If You Pay For Music

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KLICHE;7110021 said:
If anyone can give Cam this message tell him:

CAM, if you make sure that DIPSET album come out, I'll cop 2, LEGALLY! lol

Quoted for Emphasis.. The Digital and a Physical Copy.... We need that ALBUM!
 
Malcolm Xtra;7109926 said:
5th Letter;7109676 said:
Hip hop is a genre niggas don't want to pay for. But they'll shell out money for NBA2K, Madden, and Jordan's. What's wrong with supporting your favorite artists.

what niggas u kno that wanna pay for nba2k, madden, and Jordan's if that could get it for free?

U telling me u wouldn't download 2k and madden for free? U would be paying for Jordan's that u could get for free?

You do know that you can download the games for free right? Yet cats still buy them. You do know that you can get bootleg Jordan's that cost a lot less but folks are prideful when it comes to them Jordan's. So what are you saying?
 
Here's what I don't get.....nigguhs will spend money on overpriced clothes/shoes, food, liquor, weed, video games, tricking on hoes..etc but can't drop $10-$15 on a cd or music download that they will have for years to come? Ain't no excuse or justification for that shit.....especially when half these rap dudes give away free mixtapes ( which I really don't agree w/ either, but that's another debate ). You could at least support them when they drop the "pay for" album. For example, Krit dropped how many free mixtapes and then you still have nigguhs who bootleg his actual album..??.
 
nex gin;7110786 said:
Here's what I don't get.....nigguhs will spend money on overpriced clothes/shoes, food, liquor, weed, video games, tricking on hoes..etc but can't drop $10-$15 on a cd or music download that they will have for years to come? Ain't no excuse or justification for that shit.....especially when half these rap dudes give away free mixtapes ( which I really don't agree w/ either, but that's another debate ). You could at least support them when they drop the "pay for" album. For example, Krit dropped how many free mixtapes and then you still have nigguhs who bootleg his actual album..??.

What is there not to understand?.. If those same expensive clothes could be had for free no one would pay for em.. Supply and Demand.. Economics 101...

 
EmM HoLLa.;7110838 said:
nex gin;7110786 said:
Here's what I don't get.....nigguhs will spend money on overpriced clothes/shoes, food, liquor, weed, video games, tricking on hoes..etc but can't drop $10-$15 on a cd or music download that they will have for years to come? Ain't no excuse or justification for that shit.....especially when half these rap dudes give away free mixtapes ( which I really don't agree w/ either, but that's another debate ). You could at least support them when they drop the "pay for" album. For example, Krit dropped how many free mixtapes and then you still have nigguhs who bootleg his actual album..??.

What is there not to understand?.. If those same expensive clothes could be had for free no one would pay for em.. Supply and Demand.. Economics 101...

Clothes can be gotten for free too. Steal them like you steal music. What is so fucking difficult to understand about that? That's basically what people are doing right.....stealing? It's just harder to control when it occurs on the internet. People come up w/ all of the wack ass excuses to justify what they're doing. If you're stealing then *Slaughterhouse voice....."Say that then"*, but stop acting like it's something else.
 
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Malcolm Xtra;7110579 said:
5th Letter;7110397 said:
Malcolm Xtra;7109926 said:
5th Letter;7109676 said:
Hip hop is a genre niggas don't want to pay for. But they'll shell out money for NBA2K, Madden, and Jordan's. What's wrong with supporting your favorite artists.

what niggas u kno that wanna pay for nba2k, madden, and Jordan's if that could get it for free?

U telling me u wouldn't download 2k and madden for free? U would be paying for Jordan's that u could get for free?

You do know that you can download the games for free right? Yet cats still buy them. You do know that you can get bootleg Jordan's that cost a lot less but folks are prideful when it comes to them Jordan's. So what are you saying?

naw bro my niggas that got their 360 flashed is not buying retail games....bootleg jordans are not the same as real jordans...

stop man u reaching

The point is that those games consistently sell. The same cats that don't want to buy music are the same ones buying those games and those Jordan's. The same cats that used to buy bootleg CDs but won't buy bootleg Jordan's.
 
How does this idea sound;

If you buy a CD at the store you get a PIN number on your receipt that matches your debit card (or something like that) and the PIN number lets you download an album of your choice for free. That way you'd get two albums for the price of one and you still support the artist.

Its kind of a compromise.

INB4 somebody says "Why not just download both albums for free?"
 
EmM HoLLa.;7110838 said:
nex gin;7110786 said:
Here's what I don't get.....nigguhs will spend money on overpriced clothes/shoes, food, liquor, weed, video games, tricking on hoes..etc but can't drop $10-$15 on a cd or music download that they will have for years to come? Ain't no excuse or justification for that shit.....especially when half these rap dudes give away free mixtapes ( which I really don't agree w/ either, but that's another debate ). You could at least support them when they drop the "pay for" album. For example, Krit dropped how many free mixtapes and then you still have nigguhs who bootleg his actual album..??.

What is there not to understand?.. If those same expensive clothes could be had for free no one would pay for em.. Supply and Demand.. Economics 101...

Right and the same niggas that can get movies for free will go out to see the latest movie in theaters. The same cats that can download a video game would instead go BUY it. But music is where they feel like they can't pay for it.

Of course if I can get a house for free I wouldn't go pay for one.
 
Part of the problem is how disposable rap and hip-hop is these days. A song will be hot one month and gone the next. I haven't bought any rap albums in a while, but I've bought several non-rap cds. and not even new stuff, older stuff. I can buy a Marvin Gaye greatest hits and feel like I spent my $10 wisely compared to buying the latest 2chainz album and feeling sick of it after a couple months.
 
and you can damn well bet that a lot of people would change their tune on bootlegging if the RIAA starting knocking on their door with their ridiculous $150,000 fine for EACH song.
 
Ear2DaSt;7111017 said:
What do you suggest?

Pay for it instead of stealing it. Simple. What is so wrong about paying for a product or service that you enjoy?

Oh & shout out to the nigguhs who got their 360s flashed. I remember my homey had the plug on the modded units and bootleg games. I tried to warn him about that shit. #RipMyHomiesXBOX...lol.
 
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Cam doesn't specifically make music for teenagers, he was just saying the kids don't buy music anymore and that's it.

I see where the young kids are coming from, because I would never buy an album or song from itunes when I can simply download the same exact quality of album for free. I will however buy the hard copy of the actual disc (if the artist delivers a worthy product) because for one, the quality sounds better IMO, and I feel like I'm getting an artistic piece of value with the disc, the cover, the booklet etc.

I really don't see a problem with people not buying music for the fuck of it anymore. It should persuade these artists to step their quality of music up and/or their live show performance. Too bad it seems like a lot of them are taking the fast food route and making an album full of singles or club music so they can get spins SMH.
 
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Malcolm Xtra;7111190 said:
5th Letter;7111054 said:
Malcolm Xtra;7110579 said:
5th Letter;7110397 said:
Malcolm Xtra;7109926 said:
5th Letter;7109676 said:
Hip hop is a genre niggas don't want to pay for. But they'll shell out money for NBA2K, Madden, and Jordan's. What's wrong with supporting your favorite artists.

what niggas u kno that wanna pay for nba2k, madden, and Jordan's if that could get it for free?

U telling me u wouldn't download 2k and madden for free? U would be paying for Jordan's that u could get for free?

You do know that you can download the games for free right? Yet cats still buy them. You do know that you can get bootleg Jordan's that cost a lot less but folks are prideful when it comes to them Jordan's. So what are you saying?

naw bro my niggas that got their 360 flashed is not buying retail games....bootleg jordans are not the same as real jordans...

stop man u reaching

The point is that those games consistently sell. The same cats that don't want to buy music are the same ones buying those games and those Jordan's. The same cats that used to buy bootleg CDs but won't buy bootleg Jordan's.

Those games consistently sell because the people who buy them more than likely don't have modded systems....the same folks who get music for free would be getting everything else for free too if it was with the same convenience....bootleg sound is not the same as bootleg shoes....with bootleg music u can barley notice the change in sound quality......stop tryna compare music to all this other shit...y'all reaching

The business model that the music industry uses is dead....stop trying to make people participate in that bullshit....the artist that have adapted to the way things are now are getting money....

Touring and merchandising.....

And if all I have to do is "mod" my system then why aren't more people doing it? Why pay for the game if I can configure my system and get them free?

Why go to the movies when I can download them for free. Yet movies like X Men are putting up numbers.

Artists from other genres of music are still selling. It's hip hop sales that have taken the biggest hit. The fans don't buy music anymore. The WHY is a combination of different things.
 
He's right but again comments from fans like "well rappers are rich so why do I need to buy their cd" shows how little most fans know about why the rappers and style of rap they like doesnt get much of a push. No company is putting money behind a rapper who fans bootleg all his music no matter how dedicated they lie about being on the internet
 
So no one uses spotify. I listen to everything on there. Only thing that's weak is some albums are the censored version.
 
blackrain;7111275 said:
He's right but again comments from fans like "well rappers are rich so why do I need to buy their cd" shows how little most fans know about why the rappers and style of rap they like doesnt get much of a push. No company is putting money behind a rapper who fans bootleg all his music no matter how dedicated they lie about being on the internet

Bingo. This should be common sense. That applies to all goods bought and sold. Plus like @ROZAYTABERNACLE‌ alluded to....wait for the RIAA to really get involved on a more individual level. Nigguhs ain't trying to hear it though.
 
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Malcolm Xtra;7111311 said:
5th Letter;7111256 said:
Malcolm Xtra;7111190 said:
5th Letter;7111054 said:
Malcolm Xtra;7110579 said:
5th Letter;7110397 said:
Malcolm Xtra;7109926 said:
5th Letter;7109676 said:
Hip hop is a genre niggas don't want to pay for. But they'll shell out money for NBA2K, Madden, and Jordan's. What's wrong with supporting your favorite artists.

what niggas u kno that wanna pay for nba2k, madden, and Jordan's if that could get it for free?

U telling me u wouldn't download 2k and madden for free? U would be paying for Jordan's that u could get for free?

You do know that you can download the games for free right? Yet cats still buy them. You do know that you can get bootleg Jordan's that cost a lot less but folks are prideful when it comes to them Jordan's. So what are you saying?

naw bro my niggas that got their 360 flashed is not buying retail games....bootleg jordans are not the same as real jordans...

stop man u reaching

The point is that those games consistently sell. The same cats that don't want to buy music are the same ones buying those games and those Jordan's. The same cats that used to buy bootleg CDs but won't buy bootleg Jordan's.

Those games consistently sell because the people who buy them more than likely don't have modded systems....the same folks who get music for free would be getting everything else for free too if it was with the same convenience....bootleg sound is not the same as bootleg shoes....with bootleg music u can barley notice the change in sound quality......stop tryna compare music to all this other shit...y'all reaching

The business model that the music industry uses is dead....stop trying to make people participate in that bullshit....the artist that have adapted to the way things are now are getting money....

Touring and merchandising.....

And if all I have to do is "mod" my system then why aren't more people doing it? Why pay for the game if I can configure my system and get them free?

Why go to the movies when I can download them for free. Yet movies like X Men are putting up numbers.

Artists from other genres of music are still selling. It's hip hop sales that have taken the biggest hit. The fans don't buy music anymore. The WHY is a combination of different things.

Because everyone doesn't kno about modding their system and those that do kno dont wanna risk damaging their system....with the movies its more of a social experience and if they can get in the movies for free without much of a risk getting caught they would.....

If a artist cant adapt then that is their problem not the fans.....its too many ways for artist to get paid doing what they do.

Im done tho cuz u still tryna compare apples to oranges....this is pointless.

Virus from illegal downloads are real bruh. The issue is that the artists from hip hop made the music disposable. Whether bad artists gaining credibility, or over saturation with mixtapes. You look at other genres and artists are selling records despite access to spotify, and torrents. THATS THE WHY. Not because "if it's free why pay for it". I knew mad niggas from my hood that never bought an album. But stayed getting the latest games, and clothes etc.
 

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