Cal Berkeley Students Shut Down Campus Protesting Milo Yiannopoulos

[The Lonious Monk]

People are overstating how much recruiting he would have been able to do. First, it's one of the most Liberal areas in the country. Two, anyone who wants to hear what he has to say can go to YouTube and find everything they need. If anything, the protests probably will work better for recruitment than him actually speaking.

 

[SneakDZA]

People are overstating how much recruiting he would have been able to do. First, it's one of the most Liberal areas in the country. Two, anyone who wants to hear what he has to say can go to YouTube and find everything they need. If anything, the protests probably will work better for recruitment than him actually speaking.

so you're saying "just stay quiet and hope for the best" is the right way to deal with this shit?

 

[Inglewood_B]

Who?

What I got from skimming this thread, apparently he's a conservative neo nazi faggot troll blogger who likes black dick and hates the men attached to them(NHx10000000).

 

[(Nope)]

No respectable university should allow Milo on campus. There is no exchange of ideas with Milo. His goal was self promotion and hate-speech. The school gains nothing from his presence.

This shit hasn't been about academic discourse for a long time. If your words are intended to do harm then your free speech can be suspended on the grounds that your words are a "clear and present danger." I would agree that's an incredibly slippery slope, so the people shut his shit down. They reacted on a visceral level to the visceral hatred and "clear and present danger" of the alt-right.

When politicians are telling us women can't get pregnant from rape...

When they bring snowballs onto the floor of Congress to disprove climate change...

When they are calling for a "peaceful" genocide of minorities...

When everything they do is based on "alternative facts" ... (Bowling Green Massacre)

This shit stops being academic.

If you're actively working to fuck up my life up, I'm actively working to punch you in the fucking face. I don't need to hear what you have to say.

Honestly, I feel like some of you underestimate the power of 'having a foot in the door.' As a society we would never normalize the views of the Hebrew Israelites because they are a small minority, and by and large they are bonkers. But these alt-right trash-heaps like Milo or Richard Spencer have the luxury of a much larger audience. In fact, they are the same audience that put Trump into office and Bannon on the NSC. That shit is officially normalized. You're giving white people too much credit if you think they are a discerning audience of truth-seekers where speech that has a deleterious effect on others is concerned.

 

[LUClEN]

I recently read that this fool is part Jewish

I hope he doesn't reproduce

 

[Max.]

 

[Plutarch]

Ok i think the basis of our disagreement is that you seem to think violence is equally wrong in all forms even if no one is physically hurt.

It sounds like you think that I'm a pacifist. If so, that is not true. I believe in "violence" when it's reasonable, e.g. self-defense. But yes, whether one is physically hurt or not is irrelevant. You can shoot someone and miss, but that doesn't negate the attempt to injure or murder. Threats can also be a serious problem.

I actually think that's ridiculous and I don't consider "violence" against windows and garbage cans to be equivalent to inciting, stoking, acting upon or instilling the idea of violence against actual human beings based on denying them their right to freedom, justice and equality.

Well, even though I still don't think you understand my position (or perhaps you don't care to understand my position), we'll probably have to agree to disagree.

Violence against windows and garbage cans? That seems like a whitewash to me. Damage to property is no joke. And to my knowledge, actual people were assaulted during the riots, even people who took a neutral or opposing stance towards Yiannopoulos.

I'm not sure why you brought up the idea of "inciting, stoking, acting upon or instilling the idea of violence against actual human beings based on denying them their right to freedom, justice, and equality." If you're attributing that position to me, you're distorting or misunderstanding my position once again.

 

[Plutarch]

I recently read that this fool is part Jewish

I hope he doesn't reproduce

Well, he is gay. That might help.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

People are overstating how much recruiting he would have been able to do. First, it's one of the most Liberal areas in the country. Two, anyone who wants to hear what he has to say can go to YouTube and find everything they need. If anything, the protests probably will work better for recruitment than him actually speaking.

so you're saying "just stay quiet and hope for the best" is the right way to deal with this shit?

I'm not really sure how you got that from my post. I wasn't suggesting any course of action, just pointing out that the problem was being overstated.

 

[Mister B.]

Watching that MSNBC video, made sense at 4:35, which is where a lot of people are going wrong. Let them fools talk that stupid shit, then you destroy them with logic, with, humor, and sarcasm. That's kinda what Black Twitter figured out. No need to give these cacs fuel to start unloading tear gas on people if you can just mock their ignorance and have a good time doing while proving your point.

In THIS pussy version of the world, violence is being looked at as a coward's way out, and if this cacs are going to say "well, THIS is why That Orange Fucker won, and you're helping to ensure 8 years by keeping this shit up", then you just gotta switch up your style. Riots don't work. Threats don't work. The Cunservatives are trying to become the victims in all this shit, and when people start smashing and burning shit without physical provocation, it does nothing but help their cause.

Now, I do have one question to ask, because I saw the CNN coverage of this and one thing jumped out to me:

The group that's doing the actual rioting; are these white boys being paid by someone to stir shit up?

In the original article, it said that the protests started out as peaceful demonstrated - the usual signs, shouting rhymes, that shit. Then those muhfuckas show up, and shit gets burned and smashed. Same shit at the inauguration; for the most part, all the protests were peaceful, just the same group of cacs in all black running around, maniacing about, fucking up the validity of the protests.

I'm telling you, keep an eye on THOSE dudes. I wouldn't be surprised is they were hired rioters.

 

[5th Letter]

Watching that MSNBC video, made sense at 4:35, which is where a lot of people are going wrong. Let them fools talk that stupid shit, then you destroy them with logic, with, humor, and sarcasm. That's kinda what Black Twitter figured out. No need to give these cacs fuel to start unloading tear gas on people if you can just mock their ignorance and have a good time doing while proving your point.

In THIS pussy version of the world, violence is being looked at as a coward's way out, and if this cacs are going to say "well, THIS is why That Orange Fucker won, and you're helping to ensure 8 years by keeping this shit up", then you just gotta switch up your style. Riots don't work. Threats don't work. The Cunservatives are trying to become the victims in all this shit, and when people start smashing and burning shit without physical provocation, it does nothing but help their cause.

Now, I do have one question to ask, because I saw the CNN coverage of this and one thing jumped out to me:

The group that's doing the actual rioting; are these white boys being paid by someone to stir shit up?

In the original article, it said that the protests started out as peaceful demonstrated - the usual signs, shouting rhymes, that shit. Then those muhfuckas show up, and shit gets burned and smashed. Same shit at the inauguration; for the most part, all the protests were peaceful, just the same group of cacs in all black running around, maniacing about, fucking up the validity of the protests.

I'm telling you, keep an eye on THOSE dudes. I wouldn't be surprised is they were hired rioters.

That's what Cam and Dame did on the O'Reilly show back in the day.

 

[LUClEN]

I recently read that this fool is part Jewish

I hope he doesn't reproduce

Well, he is gay. That might help.

A lot of them do the artificial insemination thing.

 

[(Nope)]

Watching that MSNBC video, made sense at 4:35, which is where a lot of people are going wrong. Let them fools talk that stupid shit, then you destroy them with logic, with, humor, and sarcasm. That's kinda what Black Twitter figured out. No need to give these cacs fuel to start unloading tear gas on people if you can just mock their ignorance and have a good time doing while proving your point.

In THIS pussy version of the world, violence is being looked at as a coward's way out, and if this cacs are going to say "well, THIS is why That Orange Fucker won, and you're helping to ensure 8 years by keeping this shit up", then you just gotta switch up your style. Riots don't work. Threats don't work. The Cunservatives are trying to become the victims in all this shit, and when people start smashing and burning shit without physical provocation, it does nothing but help their cause.

Now, I do have one question to ask, because I saw the CNN coverage of this and one thing jumped out to me:

The group that's doing the actual rioting; are these white boys being paid by someone to stir shit up?

In the original article, it said that the protests started out as peaceful demonstrated - the usual signs, shouting rhymes, that shit. Then those muhfuckas show up, and shit gets burned and smashed. Same shit at the inauguration; for the most part, all the protests were peaceful, just the same group of cacs in all black running around, maniacing about, fucking up the validity of the protests.

I'm telling you, keep an eye on THOSE dudes. I wouldn't be surprised is they were hired rioters.

Robert Reich made a similar inference.

I'm cool with Antifa destroying property and punching Nazis, but none of that would surprise me.

 

[Will Munny]

And just so everyone knows, I don't think wanting to punch a nazi makes u a bad person. It makes u a normal person. I just believe violence on one side will inevitably lead to more violence for both sides. It's a suicide pact.

 

[CashmoneyDux]

And just so everyone knows, I don't think wanting to punch a nazi makes u a bad person. It makes u a normal person. I just believe violence on one side will inevitably lead to more violence for both sides. It's a suicide pact.

Guys, we should open the dialog up with Nazis! It's the only way we'll come together as a country!

 

[Will Munny]

And just so everyone knows, I don't think wanting to punch a nazi makes u a bad person. It makes u a normal person. I just believe violence on one side will inevitably lead to more violence for both sides. It's a suicide pact.

Guys, we should open the dialog up with Nazis! It's the only way we'll come together as a country!

If that's what u got from my post ur dumber than you think u are.

 

[SneakDZA]

I recently read that this fool is part Jewish

I hope he doesn't reproduce

Well, he is gay. That might help.

A lot of them do the artificial insemination thing.

I'm no doctor but I don't think that would work. Also, yuck.

 

[(Nope)]

I recently read that this fool is part Jewish

I hope he doesn't reproduce

Well, he is gay. That might help.

A lot of them do the artificial insemination thing.

I'm no doctor but I don't think that would work. Also, yuck.

I guess they could have a surrogate or he could donate. I'm sure there is somebody at a clinic right now like "hey, I want my baby to be a gay self hating Jewish Nazi, you got that?"

 

[SneakDZA]

I recently read that this fool is part Jewish

I hope he doesn't reproduce

Well, he is gay. That might help.

A lot of them do the artificial insemination thing.

I'm no doctor but I don't think that would work. Also, yuck.

I guess they could have a surrogate or he could donate. I'm sure there is somebody at a clinic right now like "hey, I want my baby to be a gay self hating Jewish Nazi, you got that?"

@SixSickSins

 

[CeLLaR-DooR]

It's incredible how many people here consistently jump at the chance to defend the rights of neo-nazis.

@The Lonius Monk - for the record - a black scholar and a neo-nazi internet troll aren't on the same standing and your equating of the two is an example of the same kind of normalization of radical white ignorance that brings us Donald Trump as a response to Barack Obama.

Is there some kind of award for being the devil's advocate that I don't know about?

Look if you're not an academic or a scholar, you can believe you want, but the shit the you people are proposing is the antithesis of what academic institutions are for, period. It's not about playing Devil's Advocate. Whether you like what the guy is saying or not, the proper way to deal with someone you disagree with in that arena is to destroy their arguments logically and factually not try to silence them. That's how it's always been done. It's only now in this era of overly-PC bullshit and SJWs that people try to pull the academic equivalents of bitch moves.

Most people on this site aren't intellectuals, have little to no intellectual curiosity, and have no desire to approach things in an intellectual manner. That is absolutely fine. Not everyone has to be like that. But colleges and universities are where things are supposed to be done that way. So when people inside that arena start acting like people outside of that arena, it's a problem.

My point in bringing up black scholars during the Jim Crow era was not to say the same as a neo-nazi, and I am continuously baffled by how people on this site don't understand how analogies and other comparisons work. I brought the scholars up because there was once a time when they were seen as the radicals and they were the ones that weren't wanted on campuses, but they were allowed to come on anyway because bringing both sides to a debate or discussion is how scholars are supposed to handle things. In most cases, they killed the opposition and that worked towards the progression of the Civil Rights movement. Here, we have a chance where scholars could attack the Alt-Rights narrative and take down one of its figures, but instead the people at the school stand for the non-scholarly and cowardly way.

It's different because black scholars were fightin' for rights and these alt right cacs incite hatred and violence with their ideas. Also, you can't take down an alt right figure intellectually because racism isn't an intellectual position