Buy or sell, Lupe is better then anyone in the WU Tang

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jamacia;1148227 said:
If we judging a rapper overall based on skills, and music so yeah catalog counts for something.

It counts, yes but catoluge=better doesn't work

it's part of the argument
 
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Mvpbrodie93;1148180 said:
Dam lol...

I don't buy the topic I posted but I just begged to ask the question.

But what I'm learning from this thread and the ic is...

That I could be better then u in EVERY aspect or a majority of aspects of being an emcee but if you have the better catoluge=better

like I'll get you in 18/19 categories, but you have a Bette catolgue so>>>>>

Dre>>>>>>>Lupe

I mean chronic>>>>>>

I know man these niggas are tripping Canibus the GOAT.
 
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Mvpbrodie93;1148234 said:
It counts, yes but catoluge=better doesn't work

it's part of the argument

If we judging two rappers as a whole then yeah albums count, if we're talking skill for skill then no catalog wont mean much.
 
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Mvpbrodie93;1148241 said:
Obfcl>>>>>>>jay z's doscography= raekwon>>>jay z

liquid swordz>>>>>>>>>jay z discography=gza>>>>jay z

I understand what you're trying to do but ironically enough both are debatable.
 
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jamacia;1148244 said:
If we judging two rappers as a whole then yeah albums count, if we're talking skill for skill then no catalog wont mean much.

Yes it counts but it's ONE aspect of the "whole"

I'll bring back the catergories chart

Catologue-

Originality-

Concepts-

Versatility-

Vocabulary-

Substance-

Flow-

Freestyle-

Vocal Presence-

Live Performance-

Poetic Value-

Industry Impact-

Social Impact-

Longevity-

Lyrics-

Battle Skills-

Songwriting -

if I have you beat, out of all these accept catologue, am I better?
 
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Mvpbrodie93;1148241 said:
Obfcl>>>>>>>jay z's doscography= raekwon>>>jay z

liquid swordz>>>>>>>>>jay z discography=gza>>>>jay z

This makes no sense because, Black Album, RD, American Gangster, Blueprint, vol 1 put Jay ahead of both Raekwon and GZA in terms of catalogue
 
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Mvpbrodie93;1148258 said:
Please stop lol

Jay z>>>>>wu tang...

Jay Z is not better than the whole freaking group.

What makes Jay Z one of the greats is that he has had a great career, he is a great rapper, dropped a few great albums, sold records and is an icon in the game. Based on those things Jay is >>Rae and Gza, but as far as rappers the shit IS debatable. Taking all those albums and everything out the picture.
 
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Mvpbrodie93;1148275 said:
Yes it counts but it's ONE aspect of the "whole"

I'll bring back the catergories chart

Catologue-
Originality-
Concepts-
Versatility-
Vocabulary-
Substance-
Flow-
Freestyle-
Vocal Presence-
Live Performance-
Poetic Value-

Industry Impact-
Social Impact-
Longevity-
Lyrics-
Battle Skills-
Songwriting -

if I have you beat, out of all these accept catologue, am I better?

Yeah cause catatlogue showcases

Songwriting, lyrics, concepts, originality, vocabulary, versatility, longevity, flow, and in some rappers cases Battle Skills.

you need to structure your arguments better, industry impact and social impact don't mean shit either.
 
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garv;1148276 said:
This makes no sense because, Black Album, RD, American Gangster, Blueprint, vol 1 put Jay ahead of both Raekwon and GZA in terms of catalogue

1. I was being sarcastic

2. I was reffering to the both the catolugue=better, and the best vs best= better

in this case i was using best versus best. And their best album is better them jay z best album. And to ALOT of the reason that EQUALS better no matter what. And I have a problem with that......
 
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jamacia;1148284 said:
Jay Z is not better than the whole freaking group.

What makes Jay Z one of the greats is that he has had a great career, he is a great rapper, dropped a few great albums, sold records and is an icon in the game. Based on those things Jay is >>Rae and Gza, but as far as rappers the shit IS debatable. Taking all those albums and everything out the picture.

See, I knew you understood that what's considered a great rapper is subjective aka debatable. Sometimes I think you get pigheaded, but you clearly have the understanding...
 
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garv;1148285 said:
Yeah cause catatlogue showcases

Songwriting, lyrics, concepts, originality, vocabulary, versatility, longevity, flow, and in some rappers cases Battle Skills.

you need to structure your arguments better, industry impact and social impact don't mean shit either.

Lupe has all of that except battle skills.
 
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Mvpbrodie93;1148291 said:
1. I was being sarcastic

2. I was reffering to the both the catolugue=better, and the best vs best= better

in this case i was using best versus best. And their best album is better them jay z best album. And to ALOT of the reason that EQUALS better no matter what. And I have a problem with that......

I may feel that Souls Of Mischeif album 93 till infinity is better than every Outkast album yet that doesn't mean Souls Of Mischief have a better catalogue than Outkast, i'm talking about catalogue as an whole not the odd album.
 
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jamacia;1148284 said:
Jay Z is not better than the whole freaking group.

What makes Jay Z one of the greats is that he has had a great career, he is a great rapper, dropped a few great albums, sold records and is an icon in the game. Based on those things Jay is >>Rae and Gza, but as far as rappers the shit IS debatable. Taking all those albums and everything out the picture.

on a greatest rappers of all time list, Jay Z is higher them all of them
 
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garv;1148314 said:
I may feel that Souls Of Mischeif album 93 till infinity is better than every Outkast album yet that doesn't mean Souls Of Mischief have a better catalogue than Outkast, i'm talking about catalogue as an whole not the odd album.

So final answer here, Better catolgue=better?
 
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