BREAKING NEWS: BCS set to install playoff system; as early as NEXT YEAR

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s2jepeka;4055951 said:
Idgaf what the people want, honestly....the 'people' are the same people who vote and fuck up Pro Bowls an All Star games every year....

I want whats fair. And Bama (one of the best defenses ...ever) vs LSU (one of the toughest sheudles ever) was fair

While OSU lost to ....Iowa State.

Lmao so what are you arguing?

A playoff system would produce Bama vs LSU in the end... thats fair...

Yet it would ALSO produce a game that everyone wanted to see. Which may not be important to you, but its important for the ratings... and seeing as how you arent making money off that, of course you wouldn't care.

Everybody wins...
 
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coop9889;4055795 said:
I agree completely with everything you are saying.

I've BEEN saying no one can compete with either.

But a playoff would work because it would produce the game everyone wanted to see (Bama/LSU vs OK St) and it would produce a worthy champ game (Bama vs LSU)

oh i completely agree and am for a playoff system but what i guess i am saying is even a playoff cannot garuntee you a better game for a final showdown. Yes their would have been a more outright champ but a game where 1 team shows up and the other was too cocky and didn't prepare correctly can still happen. Case in point is my fav college team the huskies winning the title last year. Yeah for me it was nice cause we won. But for the college b ball fan not allinged to either team it was a terrible game.
 
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coop9889;4055969 said:
Lmao so what are you arguing?

A playoff system would produce Bama vs LSU in the end... thats fair...

Yet it would ALSO produce a game that everyone wanted to see. Which may not be important to you, but its important for the ratings... and seeing as how you arent making money off that, of course you wouldn't care.

Everybody wins...

True indeed, sir, but its not fair to the best teams who put in work for 12 games AND won conf. title games

Think about the years when the NCG is unanimous 1 vs 2...and theres a distant 3, 4, etc. now you gon aks these teams to prove even more by beating them again?

If there was a playoff this year there is a good chance LSU and/or Bmaa would have to play Arkansas and Georgia a 3rd time...thats fair?

And honestly if there was a playoff system when teams like USC 04 and Miami '00 were rollin, they would win every year! They always lost random conf. games and didnt win chips b/c of it, and imo thats the way it should be. Its only 12 games, you lose, you fuked.
 
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s2jepeka;4056019 said:
True indeed, sir, but its not fair to the best teams who put in work for 12 games AND won conf. title games

First off, EVERY team puts in work for 12-13 games. And isn't the bolded the case for EVERY conference champion? Don't talk about fair and use the current BCS system as your base, that's an oxymoron. (Word to the undefeated teams with no shot). In a playoff system, more teams get a shot to get to the champ game. That's more than fair.

s2jepeka;4056019 said:
Think about the years when the NCG is unanimous 1 vs 2...and theres a distant 3, 4, etc. now you gon aks these teams to prove even more by beating them again?

Yes. And if they can't win when it's most important then they don't deserve to be champs. That's what makes playoffs exciting, the importance of the games, and upsets. And if the #1-2 are so far ahead of #3-4, then they should win handily right?

s2jepeka;4056019 said:
And honestly if there was a playoff system when teams like USC 04 and Miami '00 were rollin, they would win every year!

And? If they did then they deserved it because they had a better team than everyone else... You aren't saying anything here smh...

s2jepeka;4056019 said:
They always lost random conf. games and didnt win chips b/c of it, and imo thats the way it should be. Its only 12 games, you lose, you fuked.

You scream of fairness then try to say if you lose one random conference game you should lose a chance at the chip because of it. Hypocritical aren't you?
 
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Every team plays 12-13 games but not all against the same comp, not all go undefeated, hell not all can escape w/out losin twice

Maybe im just an old ass man, but i remember before the BCS...it was just Poll #1 vs #2...go back to that

honestly how many times has the NCG NOT been AP and Caoches 1 vs 2 in the BCS? Once? Twice? Then IN THAT CASE make it a plus 1...make some provisions that takes each scenario diff

But playoff?

Boise State playin a cupcake schedule every year...and stiil LOSING to teams like Wyoming

vs.

LSU runnin a gaunlet

Hmm, yea they deserve a shot....

One question at hand is this: are we awarding the opportunity to the teams that most deserved it by their play in the season....or awarding it to the team playing the best at the time

IMO this aint bball, if you lose twice in a 12 game reg season you dont deserve a shot, doesnt mean you couldnt win a playoff.

Cuz best believe it'll be some 10-3 teams winnin over 13-0 teams who may have injuries (i.e. Maze and the LB for Bama), and then they'll b questiong 'is this playoff really working' lol

We just gon have to agreee to disagree.
 
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My thing is, a playoff system wouldn't hurt, it would only help...

This current BCS system for the most part gets 1 vs 2 correctly, however there are instances in which #3 had a legitimate claim to be in there.

With a playoff system... not only does it increase excitement in the postseason, it gives more than only 2 teams a legitimate shot.

Stop acting like playoffs doesn't work lol. Every major sport uses a playoff system, and it's the best part OF the sport in the majority of people's eyes.

How would it be if the NFL just put the #1 ranked teams in each conference in the Super Bowl each year? Nah...
 
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tru_m.a.c;4052202 said:
I agree with everything else. Especially the conf championship idea, but you do have to throw a bone in for the alabama's of the world. Or you can just force every conference to remove their subdivisions to avoid a problem.

oh and all the small teams are gonna cry foul if you make the regular season TOO important....who is gonna play the citadels of the country if they have to constantly play top ranked teams to make it to the conference championship???

A playoff would be so much simpler if we didn't have 100+ d1 football schools

Shit I didn't realize that flaw of 100+ schools, but let's be honest, some of the schools need to be put in a separate subdivisons (but still not feasible). What I had in mind was all the big conf (plus WAC and Mountain West) ...and in order for the big conf not to SCHELDULE the citadels of the world, why not make it so each of the BCS conf MUST play one of the other BCS conf subdivison ....say SEC East vs Big 10 Legends (as an example) , and every year rotate to a different conf. That's means no scheduling cupcakes.
 
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coop9889;4056242 said:
My thing is, a playoff system wouldn't hurt, it would only help...

This current BCS system for the most part gets 1 vs 2 correctly, however there are instances in which #3 had a legitimate claim to be in there.

With a playoff system... not only does it increase excitement in the postseason, it gives more than only 2 teams a legitimate shot.

Stop acting like playoffs doesn't work lol. Every major sport uses a playoff system, and it's the best part OF the sport in the majority of people's eyes.

How would it be if the NFL just put the #1 ranked teams in each conference in the Super Bowl each year? Nah...

@ the bolded: Why? I'm not arguin just to argue, I honestly want to know why, for example, Virginia Tech deserves a title shot.

Also, OTHER THAN FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES, why did OSU (Only loss to unranked opponent) deserve the chance that Bama got? (only loss by 3 in OT to #1 team)

At the underlined, teams are on a relatively even playing field schedule-wise in the NFL, and obviously ther is less seperating the top 5-10 teams in the NFL vs top 5-10 in college...to name only 2 of many reasons why that is nowhere near a valid comparison.
 
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Bout damn time, put it all on the field and let the game talk. The NCAA and the schools would make way more money with a playoff. And it might build some new rivalries.

But until this shit really happens, 1-AA's postseason >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1-A's postseason
 
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where was all this bitchin when Big 10 and Pac schools got in the championship game with no conference championship? There will a;lways be something to complain about. With that said Bama and LSU were the 2 best teams in the Country.... Stanford, Oregon, Ok State, and Boise fucked up by losing after Bama lost... I have no sympathy
 
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aneed123;4057671 said:
where was all this bitchin when Big 10 and Pac schools got in the championship game with no conference championship? There will a;lways be something to complain about. With that said Bama and LSU were the 2 best teams in the Country.... Stanford, Oregon, Ok State, and Boise fucked up by losing after Bama lost... I have no sympathy

Coming from Big 10 country, I can say this with absolute certainly. Notre Dame has screw the Big 10 out of countless ntl bowls or natty champs in the past cause of their independent standing.....They should be in Big 10, had they been , we would had been the first to have a conf champ way before the SEC....but ND REFUSE to join..morever you want screwed? look at '66 with Notre Dame vs Mich St. ND refuse to play after the tie and basically got in the natty champ cause of that tie. (and no I'm not a MSU football fan -- I'm a Michigan fan).
 
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adilla;4057721 said:
Coming from Big 10 country, I can say this with absolute certainly. Notre Dame has screw the Big 10 out of countless ntl bowls or natty champs in the past cause of their independent standing.....They should be in Big 10, had they been , we would had been the first to have a conf champ way before the SEC....but ND REFUSE to join..morever you want screwed? look at '66 with Notre Dame vs Mich St. ND refuse to play after the tie and basically got in the natty champ cause of that tie. (and no I'm not a MSU football fan -- I'm a Michigan fan).

Michigan is my 2nd fav college football team but them and big 12 teams before this year had no conference championship game yet big 12 and sec had to play in championship games... was that fair?ALLNotre Dame had to do was go undefeated with is bs schedule and they would be locks every year. Im just saying people are always gonna complain.
 
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aneed123;4057749 said:
Michigan is my 2nd fav college football team but them and big 12 teams before this year had no conference championship game yet big 12 and sec had to play in championship games... was that fair?ALLNotre Dame had to do was go undefeated with is bs schedule and they would be locks every year. Im just saying people are always gonna complain.

But in those past years, Mich vs fuckin Ohio WAS the conf chmap for the Big Ten. I'll admit Um sometimes load the front end of their sked with unless cupcakes...but over the last couple of years it been humble with some worthy MAC conf foes and FBS champs (Appy) --we took alot of flack for losing to Appy, but alot of people have to remember, Appy actually went through a playoffs and had and champ team...so I always look at it as losing to a champ team. But ND's sked really pisses me off...Armed Services (Naval, Air Force, Army) aren't strong as they were in the 30s or 40s, plus all these wack teams..their sked SoS is only serve by HOW well SoCal, Stanford, Mich St and Michigan does.....they only good legit ND team I'll admit to was Rocket's team.......that team was nasty ..and Rocket killed UM all on his own....
 
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aneed123;4057671 said:
where was all this bitchin when Big 10 and Pac schools got in the championship game with no conference championship? There will a;lways be something to complain about. With that said Bama and LSU were the 2 best teams in the Country.... Stanford, Oregon, Ok State, and Boise fucked up by losing after Bama lost... I have no sympathy

Exactly.

And smh @ people crying 'fair'...ok, take out the SEC champ. Game and guesse who woulda been in the playoffs this year?

Lsu, Bama, Arkansas, Georgia....then people woulda screamed SEC bias...

Or what happens when Big 12/SEC teams end ii playing each other 3 times b/c of these.playoffs. There will always be somethin to bytch about
 
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s2jepeka;4057857 said:
Exactly.

And smh @ people crying 'fair'...ok, take out the SEC champ. Game and guesse who woulda been in the playoffs this year?

Lsu, Bama, Arkansas, Georgia....then people woulda screamed SEC bias...

Or what happens when Big 12/SEC teams end ii playing each other 3 times b/c of these.playoffs. There will always be somethin to bytch about

Under my idea, only LSU would had rep the SEC ...8 teams...all form big conferences....the fairness way is win your conf champion, otherwise don't complain. If you gonna do 16 teams, then the remaining teams would ONLY be the runner up in the conf champ games...so you had LSU and Georgia.

Back to my main point --- get rid of the damn Preseason polls...that the reason we are in this argument now........let the season play out first before you start ranking.
 
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adilla;4057898 said:
Under my idea, only LSU would had rep the SEC ...8 teams...all form big conferences....the fairness way is win your conf champion, otherwise don't complain. If you gonna do 16 teams, then the remaining teams would ONLY be the runner up in the conf champ games...so you had LSU and Georgia.

Back to my main point --- get rid of the damn Preseason polls...that the reason we are in this argument now........let the season play out first before you start ranking.

Gtfoh...and people say the BCS people arent smart smh

So Uconn plays for the NC while Bama stays home...yea this playoff will fix everything
 
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