Wow, what an episode. A few comments:
The Scalpin': The old codger (didn't get his name) had bragged earlier in the episode how many Native American people he'd slaughtered...while he's sitting in a room filled with Native items he's collected. Jimmy and Richard's choice of how to kill him was inspired. Not only did they scalp him, but they stuffed a breech cloth in his mouth. Remember what that is....a strip of cloth that was run up between a man's legs then tied at the waist. They shoved a cloth in the codger's mouth that had been around an Indian man's rear end and genitals. Just happened to be what was on the desk, but a marvelously ironic turn of events
and I'm wondering if the dog turns out to be pre-stardom Rin Tin Tin in his younger days. Rinny was a war dog, brought back from Europe toward the end of World War I, much as the old codger in the woods related. The time-line would work out about right.
Richard in the woods: Fabulous scene, particularly the part where the younger of the two woodsmen tells Richard that the woods are for hunting, watching birds, and for living. He knew exactly what Richard had been trying to do and spoke to him about it in a low drama and highly masculine way. Now Richard will see those holes from the dog's teeth in his mask every time he looks in the mirror. Will they remind him that he failed to kill himself or that he was saved by the dog and hillbilly guardian angels.?
Jimmy: While he has awesome moments, such as the impromptu speech, he made a major mistake siding with the Commodore. While he is his birth father, the Commodore didn't give a rat's fart for Jimmy for the vast majority of his life. He also treated Jimmy's mother worse than bad. Money and power can be intoxicating, can't they Jimmy?
Unlike Eli, Jimmy would never ask forgiveness from Nucky.
The Scalpin': The old codger (didn't get his name) had bragged earlier in the episode how many Native American people he'd slaughtered...while he's sitting in a room filled with Native items he's collected. Jimmy and Richard's choice of how to kill him was inspired. Not only did they scalp him, but they stuffed a breech cloth in his mouth. Remember what that is....a strip of cloth that was run up between a man's legs then tied at the waist. They shoved a cloth in the codger's mouth that had been around an Indian man's rear end and genitals. Just happened to be what was on the desk, but a marvelously ironic turn of events
and I'm wondering if the dog turns out to be pre-stardom Rin Tin Tin in his younger days. Rinny was a war dog, brought back from Europe toward the end of World War I, much as the old codger in the woods related. The time-line would work out about right.
Richard in the woods: Fabulous scene, particularly the part where the younger of the two woodsmen tells Richard that the woods are for hunting, watching birds, and for living. He knew exactly what Richard had been trying to do and spoke to him about it in a low drama and highly masculine way. Now Richard will see those holes from the dog's teeth in his mask every time he looks in the mirror. Will they remind him that he failed to kill himself or that he was saved by the dog and hillbilly guardian angels.?
Jimmy: While he has awesome moments, such as the impromptu speech, he made a major mistake siding with the Commodore. While he is his birth father, the Commodore didn't give a rat's fart for Jimmy for the vast majority of his life. He also treated Jimmy's mother worse than bad. Money and power can be intoxicating, can't they Jimmy?
Unlike Eli, Jimmy would never ask forgiveness from Nucky.
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sdotcarter111
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fuck eli, and jimmy/richards gangsta cant be touched
jimmys moms EBRC
jimmys moms EBRC
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Jimmie is in way over his head, and I was actually glad that old bluecoat in a wheelchair went upside his head with the cane! He needs more of that. The lesson didn't take, however. Scalping your creditors, literally, is not good business practice, even in New Jersey. Jimmy is beginning to remind me a bit of Sonny Corleone, what with his short fuse.
In my opinion, When Eli's valuable info about the Commodore's stroke and I would threw Jimmy's mama's name "Gillian" because I think Nucky's biggest adversary is Gillian. And in truth, it always has been. It's Gillian pushing Jimmy's buttons and telling Jimmy how he should act and why he should do the things he does. Jimmy, because he loves his mother (in an almost sexual way) listens to her and wishes to hurt Nucky because he believes Nucky hurt their family and decieved him about being Gillian's pimp. Gillian knew exactly what she was doing when she dropped that bombshell on Jimmy and she knew what she was doing in trying to get him closer to Commadore.
Gillian is the one to watch.
In my opinion, When Eli's valuable info about the Commodore's stroke and I would threw Jimmy's mama's name "Gillian" because I think Nucky's biggest adversary is Gillian. And in truth, it always has been. It's Gillian pushing Jimmy's buttons and telling Jimmy how he should act and why he should do the things he does. Jimmy, because he loves his mother (in an almost sexual way) listens to her and wishes to hurt Nucky because he believes Nucky hurt their family and decieved him about being Gillian's pimp. Gillian knew exactly what she was doing when she dropped that bombshell on Jimmy and she knew what she was doing in trying to get him closer to Commadore.
Gillian is the one to watch.
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Great season so far, I'd agree with everything said so far about this episode.
Jimmy is a strong physically but weak mentally its not his time to take over just yet and the Commodore's days are behind him. I think dude in the jail got to Chalky he's trying to fight the Uncle Tom/uppity negro stigma that people might see it can also be because of him being caled in the church in last weeks episode, will be interesting how that situation turns out.
Gillian is gon hit Jimmy's head by the end of the season and I bet his wife catches them.
Jimmy is a strong physically but weak mentally its not his time to take over just yet and the Commodore's days are behind him. I think dude in the jail got to Chalky he's trying to fight the Uncle Tom/uppity negro stigma that people might see it can also be because of him being caled in the church in last weeks episode, will be interesting how that situation turns out.
Gillian is gon hit Jimmy's head by the end of the season and I bet his wife catches them.
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christhephd
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I think you missing the point here, its the 1920's, what do you really expect from Chalky? Do you think he could take on Lansky, Lucky or Capone in those times, this was jim crow days in full effect, i like his story but i do not think he can do big moves in those days, He can not be Omar or Marlo in the open.allied;3584825 said:
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christhephd;3585010 said:
I'm not saying he has to be Omar but you can't be telling me not to have him in the latest episode is just BS. And honestly I don't find Jimmy and Nucky very interesting. I think Capone and Chalky, and even the dude with the messed up face are more interesting, I think that is a problem with this show right now.
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rice n gravy
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i couldnt look at the scene when Richard was about to blow his head off
it was 2 quiet
it was 2 quiet
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Will Munny
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I felt bad for Eli... well I felt bad for him, but I still thought he was a worm. But at the same time I didn't think Nucky was wrong for telling him off when he came crawling back. But once he killed whats-his-face with the pipe wrench I didn't feel bad for him at all. Fuckin dumbass.
I don't like how Jimmy's mom can get in his ear and make him do shit.
Anyone see any significance of Richard keeping the squirrel bones? THat shit was wierd. Man I got the most sympathy for him as a character in the whole show. I'm really glad his role is being expanded and I'm really glad he didn't end up killing himself.
I don't like how Jimmy's mom can get in his ear and make him do shit.
Anyone see any significance of Richard keeping the squirrel bones? THat shit was wierd. Man I got the most sympathy for him as a character in the whole show. I'm really glad his role is being expanded and I'm really glad he didn't end up killing himself.
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Will Munny
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young law;3587257 said:
That makes sense. Poor Richard Harrow. Dude just wants to belong. "Would you fight for me." Shit was was sad, dude been feeling like nothing but a pawn.
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think about it
-grew up on a farm wit no friends and no brother,jus a sister
-went to war and did a polarizing job
-lost half his face and all of his identity
-couldnt feel comfortable at all because the war made him indifferent to his sister
-lost his virginity to a hooker
-lives wit your friend/boss who has everything you want but doesnt even cherish it they way you would
-cant even kill yourself in peace
Richard is a sad ass story
-grew up on a farm wit no friends and no brother,jus a sister
-went to war and did a polarizing job
-lost half his face and all of his identity
-couldnt feel comfortable at all because the war made him indifferent to his sister
-lost his virginity to a hooker
-lives wit your friend/boss who has everything you want but doesnt even cherish it they way you would
-cant even kill yourself in peace
Richard is a sad ass story
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king hassan
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But you see Jimmy said yeah he would, down to the last bullet. I think they have a more deep friendship than we know. Jimmy got his back it seems and he damn sure got Jimmy's. And they scalped the fuck out of ole boy that hit Jimmy with that caneWill Munny;3588172 said:
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TimSanchez
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It was cool to see Joe the Boss Masseria in the episode before last .... hopefully Maranzano can get a cameo in too
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