Blackstar is the greatest hip hop album of all time? Why or why not?

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It' s one of those Hip Hop Classics that doesn't get talked about but this album got me through my freshman year of college. Hi Tek's production and Mos and Talib's flow and lyrics were so on point. I'm still mad till this day that they both won't let stupid Ego's go and make another album. From top to bottom this album was dope. I use to bump this album and "Soundboming II' religiously back in 98-99. Best album in Hip Hop?, lol let's not get carried away. One of the best Independent albums of all time?, now we are talking

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1 "Intro" Hi-Tek; co-produced by Talib Kweli *Interlude* 1:11

2 "Astronomy (8th Light)" Da Beatminerz Talib Kweli, Mos Def, Weldon Irvine 3:23

3 "Definition" Hi-Tek Mos Def, Talib Kweli 3:26

4 "RE: DEFinition" Hi-Tek Talib Kweli, Mos Def 3:02

5 "Children's Story" Shawn J. Period Mos Def, Talib Kweli 3:32

6 "Brown Skin Lady " J. Rawls Talib Kweli, Mos Def 5:46

7 "B Boys Will B Boys" Ge-ology Mos Def, Talib Kweli 2:36

8 "K.O.S. (Determination)" Hi-Tek Talib Kweli, Vinia Mojica 4:49

9 "Hater Players" Shawn J. Period Talib Kweli, Mos Def 4:08

10 "Yo Yeah" J. Rawls; co-produced by Talib Kweli Mos Def, Talib Kweli 1:10

11 "Respiration" Hi-Tek Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Common 6:05

12 "Thieves in the Night" 88-Keys Talib Kweli, Mos Def 5:16

13 "Twice Inna Lifetime" Hi-Tek
 
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This album is truly supreme, but c'mon, you know everything is relative & some will agree & some won't, that's with every "G.O.A.T. statement".
 
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LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nigga reaching like a muthafucka

Cuban Lanx > Black Star by the way

...yeah that's right, I said lanx
 
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marcusgarvey;2000996 said:
Yo, I'm sure that everbody out listenin agree

That everything you see ain't really how it be

A lot of jokers out runnin in place, chasin the style

Be a lot goin on beneath the empty smile

Most cats in my area be lovin the hysteria

Synthesized surface conceals the interior

America, land of opportunity, mirages and camoflauges

More than usually -- speakin loudly, sayin nothin

You confusin me, you losin me

Your game is twisted, want me enlisted -- in your usary

Foolishly, most men join the ranks cluelessly

Buffoonishly accept the deception, believe the perception

Reflection rarely seen across the surface of the lookin glass

Walkin the street, wonderin who they be lookin past

Lookin gassed with them imported designer shades on

Stars shine bright, but the light -- rarely stays on

Same song, just remixed, different arrangement

Put you on a yacht but they won't call it a slaveship

Strangeness, you don't control this, you barely hold this

Screamin brand new, when they just sanitized the old shit

Suppose it's, just another clever Jedi mind trick

That they been runnin across stars through all the time with

I find it's distressin, there's never no in-between

We either niggaz or Kings

We either bitches or Queens

The deadly ritual seems immersed, in the perverse

Full of short attention spans, short tempers, and short skirts

Long barrel automatics released in short bursts

The length of black life is treated with short worth

Get yours first, them other niggaz secondary

That type of illin that be fillin up the cemetary

This life is temporary but the soul is eternal

Separate the real from the lie, let me learn you

Not strong, only aggressive, cause the power ain't directed

That's why, we are subjected to the will of the oppressive

Not free, we only licensed

Not live, we just excitin

Cause the captors.. own the masters.. to what we writin

Not compassionate, only polite, we well trained

Our sincerity's rehearsed in stage, it's just a game

Not good, but well behaved cause the ca-me-ra survey

most of the things that we think, do, or say

We chasin after death just to call ourselves brave

But everyday, next man meet with the grave

I give a damn if any fan recall my legacy

I'm tryin to live life in the sight of God's memory

Like that y'all

-Best Mos Def verse IMO

Love that album

thieves in the night is in my top 5 fave songs
 
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marcusgarvey;2000996 said:
Yo, I'm sure that everbody out listenin agree

That everything you see ain't really how it be

A lot of jokers out runnin in place, chasin the style

Be a lot goin on beneath the empty smile

Most cats in my area be lovin the hysteria

Synthesized surface conceals the interior

America, land of opportunity, mirages and camoflauges

More than usually -- speakin loudly, sayin nothin

You confusin me, you losin me

Your game is twisted, want me enlisted -- in your usary

Foolishly, most men join the ranks cluelessly

Buffoonishly accept the deception, believe the perception

Reflection rarely seen across the surface of the lookin glass

Walkin the street, wonderin who they be lookin past

Lookin gassed with them imported designer shades on

Stars shine bright, but the light -- rarely stays on

Same song, just remixed, different arrangement

Put you on a yacht but they won't call it a slaveship

Strangeness, you don't control this, you barely hold this

Screamin brand new, when they just sanitized the old shit

Suppose it's, just another clever Jedi mind trick

That they been runnin across stars through all the time with

I find it's distressin, there's never no in-between

We either niggaz or Kings

We either bitches or Queens

The deadly ritual seems immersed, in the perverse

Full of short attention spans, short tempers, and short skirts

Long barrel automatics released in short bursts

The length of black life is treated with short worth

Get yours first, them other niggaz secondary

That type of illin that be fillin up the cemetary

This life is temporary but the soul is eternal

Separate the real from the lie, let me learn you

Not strong, only aggressive, cause the power ain't directed

That's why, we are subjected to the will of the oppressive

Not free, we only licensed

Not live, we just excitin

Cause the captors.. own the masters.. to what we writin

Not compassionate, only polite, we well trained

Our sincerity's rehearsed in stage, it's just a game

Not good, but well behaved cause the ca-me-ra survey

most of the things that we think, do, or say

We chasin after death just to call ourselves brave

But everyday, next man meet with the grave

I give a damn if any fan recall my legacy

I'm tryin to live life in the sight of God's memory

Like that y'all

-Best Mos Def verse IMO

Love that album

That's one of the 3 greatest verses ever IMO.
 
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Mvpbrodie93;2002292 said:
Mos stoled the show on theives in the night

Kweli had a great verse.....Mos just blacked out something serious on that.

Actually, let me listen to that shit right now.
 
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very very good album but I can't give it (or any hip-hop album) the nod of Black on Both Sides, both have outstanding production and content thoughtout, but Mos is my favorite rapper of all time, so whereas some of a good thing can be good, more is better. No diss to Kweli.
 
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It's one of those albums where you discover new things with each listening. That's a true testament to its greatness. It didn't age at all. With old school vibe kept on, it still sounds fresh and actual today. It's definitely one of my all time favs.
 
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I disagree, but I don't disagree to the point where I don't see why you would say that...I can understand why some would say that, the album is great on all angles, from production to lyrics and featured artist, to this day I think Common spit on of the dopest verses in his career on Respiration. But there are albums I think is better than that album.. Aquemini, Makaveli, It's Dark And Hell Is Hot, Stillmatic and some other albums...
 
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Great album and definately a classic. But not greatest Hip Hop album of all-time, if you compare them to other duos releasing music. Outkast - Aquemini shits all over them.

I general i think the greatest hip hop albums are

1) Public Enemy It takes a nation to hold us back
2) Rakim Paid in Full
3) Nas Illmatic
4) Ice Cube AmeriKKKas most wanted
5) Lauryn Hill The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill
 
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master_mentor;2003652 said:
Great album and definately a classic. But not greatest Hip Hop album of all-time, if you compare them to other duos releasing music. Outkast - Aquemini shits all over them.

I general i think the greatest hip hop albums are

1) Public Enemy It takes a nation to hold us back
2) Rakim Paid in Full
3) Nas Illmatic
4) Ice Cube AmeriKKKas most wanted
5) Lauryn Hill The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill

Great post...
 
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