Madame_CJSkywalker;c-9757849 said:
@The Lonious Monk
1. maybe you aren't being disingenuous...
You're right. I'll check "sayhername" out to see what you're talking about... However, let's not act like the people on twitter or facebook or youtube or all the other avenues out there are imaginary. Those are real people. So if I see a video on the net of chicks at a rally tearing down people right there with them for not giving women enough attention, that's a valid example. Now if you're saying that's only one side, alright that's fair. I'll check for the other side at your suggestion.
2. same as their is male privilege, there is also female privilege ...
It all depends on what comparisons you're making. If you're talking about the differences between black women and white women, then yeah, I'd agree, black women are always at a disadvantage. But for the purposes of this discussion, I was contrasting the differences between black men and black women. And black women do not have it worse than black men across the board. As I've said many times. black women are doing better than black men in damn near every trend these days. So with that being the case, it doesn't really make sense to always insist that black women are the ones that need more attention.
3. everyone wants and should want fair and balanced representation, especially the historically disenfranchised...
I didn't say black women have a monopoly on "faux outrage." Lots of people are guilty of that. I still believe black women feel the need to be focus. We can agree to disagree there.
Why do black women need a company to cater specifically to them? That's exactly what I'm talking about. It's a hair product company. As long as they are still supplying your needs, what difference does it make if they also reach out to others? Why do you guys feel the need to control something even when you have no real right to do so? This is exactly what I'm talking about. You're fighting with me about my claim that black women have to co-opt everything, while you basically defend black women trying to co-opt something.
4. again while we may not be killed at the same rate as blk men...no group is with maybe the exception of native American men ....
Black women do deserve to be heard. I've never said otherwise. As far as I know, black women have never been fully ignored the way some portray. I've only been to two protests, but in both cases there were signs of female victims too. Yes, the men were the focus, but it was also the men that were on camera being gunned down.
5. that said, this idea that gender has some how been a protective shield blk women that has been perpetuated by the absence of our narratives when discussing police brutality and racial discrimination is what really fuels contention and division....not anyone acknowledging said absence
Gender has been a shield, not an impervious one, but black women have not been demonized the way black men have. Again, I'm not saying that black women don't get it bad, ya'll do. But females love pointing out this is a patriarchy. If you want to hurt a community, how do you do it in a patriarchy? You go after the male. So yeah, black males have absorbed a lot more of the damage than females have, and whether you want to admit it or not, that is benefiting you. Look up the numbers, black women are outpacing not just black men but other groups in secondary education, entrepreneurship, and a few other things. Meanwhile, black men are lagging behind in all those things. You think that's a coincidence? You don't think it's possible that while so much effort is being put into tearing black men down, that it makes it easier on black women in some degrees? Maybe not easier than it is for white women, but easier than it would be if you had to endure the same treatment we do. I'm really not trying to make this an us against ya'll thing. The only point I'm making is that sometimes more focus is put on black me because we simply need it more not because you guys don't need attention too.