BLACK HISTORY QUESTION???

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FatterThanKat;6791485 said:
Cain;6791208 said:
No and here is why..........African history is everyone history especially since everything started and will end there. African American history is a subgenre of African history but I believe it should be celebrated separately. I believe all of us should know our roots from the Motherland but celebrate the accomplishments of the Black men and women here in the US differently.

African American history is American history, they just relegate the appreciation of it to the coldest, shittiest month of the year to put on the appearance that they really give a shit about Black Americans.

Frederick Douglas birthday is in February for that very reason and push by blacks in america. Most do not realize how important and reason why we even have a black community today.
 
EmperorRises;6791569 said:
FatterThanKat;6791485 said:
Cain;6791208 said:
No and here is why..........African history is everyone history especially since everything started and will end there. African American history is a subgenre of African history but I believe it should be celebrated separately. I believe all of us should know our roots from the Motherland but celebrate the accomplishments of the Black men and women here in the US differently.

African American history is American history, they just relegate the appreciation of it to the coldest, shittiest month of the year to put on the appearance that they really give a shit about Black Americans.

Frederick Douglas birthday is in February for that very reason and push by blacks in america. Most do not realize how important and reason why we even have a black community today.

So this makes segregated history acceptable or something we should be proud of?
 
FatterThanKat;6791590 said:
EmperorRises;6791569 said:
FatterThanKat;6791485 said:
Cain;6791208 said:
No and here is why..........African history is everyone history especially since everything started and will end there. African American history is a subgenre of African history but I believe it should be celebrated separately. I believe all of us should know our roots from the Motherland but celebrate the accomplishments of the Black men and women here in the US differently.

African American history is American history, they just relegate the appreciation of it to the coldest, shittiest month of the year to put on the appearance that they really give a shit about Black Americans.

Frederick Douglas birthday is in February for that very reason and push by blacks in america. Most do not realize how important and reason why we even have a black community today.

So this makes segregated history acceptable or something we should be proud of?

YUP! :)
 
Du_Du;6791239 said:
nah, cuz blacks be ignorant as shit to african culture....

they don't know shit about it, be confused as fuck wearing dashiki's for black history month, but don't even know what region or country the shit they rocking comes from....not to mention if that's even where they descend from....africa big as fuck yo.......like fucking humongous....and black people just be trying to group an entire continent in their history without knowing shit about it..

which is insulting as fuck to the struggle of the black american in this country.....blacks went through slavery, were "freed" only to be persecuted, hunted, killed and suffered through generations of shit, yet still managed to make numerous contributions to this country...

there's so much rich history right here in america that blacks made for themselves....struggles they've persevered over..progress made in multiple fields....

we have our own strong history completely separate from whatever african ancestors we have, and we should embrace that instead of denying it....

Rahlow;6791355 said:
2 different worlds

different struggles though some can be paralleled

different experiences

now days we are different peoples due to all the admixture even in the smallest percentages

Also "black" is a byword that was exclusively attributed to those of us in the USA that descend from the diaspora/slave trade that had our identity stripped from us.

Africans still have their ethnic tribal identity so therefore it makes no sense for them to lay that aside and take on a vague identity attributed to us lost ones in the Western Hemisphere. If I knew I was a Fulani/Hausa/Igbo/Fon/Ashanti/Wolof/Mandink/etc etc why would I lay that aside in exchange for being called a vague term such as

"black" or "African Amerikkkan", "negro", "colored"

At the end of the day... Igbo have their history

Yoruba have their history

blacks have our history

Keep in mind that Africa is the most diverse continent on the planet so there no sense in lumping us all in together with them
. Black is our new tribal identity and we have our own history to take pride in.

That's the truth.

I still find out new things about Black America everyday. There are so many great stories, people, ideas that go overlooked.

 
shit's kinda disgusting, how so many would push the accomplishments of all those who struggled in this country aside to focus on an entire continent that wants nothing to do with the black american...
 
desertrain10;6791518 said:
Yep

Personally the more I learn about africa and its rich history the more perspective I gain

Also the more I discover the more I feel a sense of kinship with the people there ...which I feel is important considering we share the same struggle with colorism, racism, etc

This is true as well. Aime Cesaire, Steve Biko and Frantz Fanon all spoke on this negritude or a black consciousness where we can find solace and support because we all go through the same issues.

The Algerian in France is the same as the Black man in America as was the Bantu in South Africa. A black person in a country where they were the minority and forced to assimilate with Europeans in order to survive.
 
Du_Du;6791635 said:
shit's kinda disgusting, how so many would push the accomplishments of all those who struggled in this country aside to focus on an entire continent that wants nothing to do with the black american...

Straw man... No one is saying that...
 
jono;6791628 said:
Du_Du;6791239 said:
nah, cuz blacks be ignorant as shit to african culture....

they don't know shit about it, be confused as fuck wearing dashiki's for black history month, but don't even know what region or country the shit they rocking comes from....not to mention if that's even where they descend from....africa big as fuck yo.......like fucking humongous....and black people just be trying to group an entire continent in their history without knowing shit about it..

which is insulting as fuck to the struggle of the black american in this country.....blacks went through slavery, were "freed" only to be persecuted, hunted, killed and suffered through generations of shit, yet still managed to make numerous contributions to this country...

there's so much rich history right here in america that blacks made for themselves....struggles they've persevered over..progress made in multiple fields....

we have our own strong history completely separate from whatever african ancestors we have, and we should embrace that instead of denying it....

Rahlow;6791355 said:
2 different worlds

different struggles though some can be paralleled

different experiences

now days we are different peoples due to all the admixture even in the smallest percentages

Also "black" is a byword that was exclusively attributed to those of us in the USA that descend from the diaspora/slave trade that had our identity stripped from us.

Africans still have their ethnic tribal identity so therefore it makes no sense for them to lay that aside and take on a vague identity attributed to us lost ones in the Western Hemisphere. If I knew I was a Fulani/Hausa/Igbo/Fon/Ashanti/Wolof/Mandink/etc etc why would I lay that aside in exchange for being called a vague term such as

"black" or "African Amerikkkan", "negro", "colored"

At the end of the day... Igbo have their history

Yoruba have their history

blacks have our history

Keep in mind that Africa is the most diverse continent on the planet so there no sense in lumping us all in together with them
. Black is our new tribal identity and we have our own history to take pride in.

That's the truth.

I still find out new things about Black America everyday. There are so many great stories, people, ideas that go overlooked.

Du_Du;6791635 said:
shit's kinda disgusting, how so many would push the accomplishments of all those who struggled in this country aside to focus on an entire continent that wants nothing to do with the black american...

Du_Du;6791635 said:
shit's kinda disgusting, how so many would push the accomplishments of all those who struggled in this country aside to focus on an entire continent that wants nothing to do with the black american...

How exactly would learning about Africa impede or put AA history to the side?

Who sez u have to cram all this knowledge into one month?

Here's an amazing trick u guys should try......open up a history book on a prolific, black, freedom fighter,, on March 1st. I bet chall can do it.
 
BlackJerryMaguire;6791658 said:
jono;6791633 said:
BlackJerryMaguire;6791559 said:
Newsflash America does not like you

And Africa doesn't know you.

That duality DuBois spoke of strikes again.

And u are assuming that off what?

The fact we have no connections to the people there that aren't superficial like all of us having similar skin tones.

Don't share a language, cultural norms, societal norms, religion etc. what makes the Igbo the Igbo, what makes the Bantu...Bantu and not Igbo.

gns;6791692 said:
jono;6791628 said:
Du_Du;6791239 said:
nah, cuz blacks be ignorant as shit to african culture....

they don't know shit about it, be confused as fuck wearing dashiki's for black history month, but don't even know what region or country the shit they rocking comes from....not to mention if that's even where they descend from....africa big as fuck yo.......like fucking humongous....and black people just be trying to group an entire continent in their history without knowing shit about it..

which is insulting as fuck to the struggle of the black american in this country.....blacks went through slavery, were "freed" only to be persecuted, hunted, killed and suffered through generations of shit, yet still managed to make numerous contributions to this country...

there's so much rich history right here in america that blacks made for themselves....struggles they've persevered over..progress made in multiple fields....

we have our own strong history completely separate from whatever african ancestors we have, and we should embrace that instead of denying it....

Rahlow;6791355 said:
2 different worlds

different struggles though some can be paralleled

different experiences

now days we are different peoples due to all the admixture even in the smallest percentages

Also "black" is a byword that was exclusively attributed to those of us in the USA that descend from the diaspora/slave trade that had our identity stripped from us.

Africans still have their ethnic tribal identity so therefore it makes no sense for them to lay that aside and take on a vague identity attributed to us lost ones in the Western Hemisphere. If I knew I was a Fulani/Hausa/Igbo/Fon/Ashanti/Wolof/Mandink/etc etc why would I lay that aside in exchange for being called a vague term such as

"black" or "African Amerikkkan", "negro", "colored"

At the end of the day... Igbo have their history

Yoruba have their history

blacks have our history

Keep in mind that Africa is the most diverse continent on the planet so there no sense in lumping us all in together with them
. Black is our new tribal identity and we have our own history to take pride in.

That's the truth.

I still find out new things about Black America everyday. There are so many great stories, people, ideas that go overlooked.

Du_Du;6791635 said:
shit's kinda disgusting, how so many would push the accomplishments of all those who struggled in this country aside to focus on an entire continent that wants nothing to do with the black american...

Du_Du;6791635 said:
shit's kinda disgusting, how so many would push the accomplishments of all those who struggled in this country aside to focus on an entire continent that wants nothing to do with the black american...

How exactly would learning about Africa impede or put AA history to the side?

Who sez u have to cram all this knowledge into one month?


Here's an amazing trick u guys should try......open up a history book on a prolific, black, freedom fighter,, on March 1st. I bet chall can do it.

I don't think anyone is arguing that it would or is.

And we are talking about black history month....not all year round. Anyone with common sense can read any book at any time.
 
i was gonna vote yes.. but then i remembered that i don't live in Africa..

and this month is to celebrate black achievement and triumph HERE IN America..
 
because africa is an ENTIRE CONTINENT with 10's of thousands if not millions of years of history tracing back to the origin of man himself....

black american history only goes back a few 100's of years

do the math.......if you're going to include african history with black american history.....naturally african history is going to over shadow.....which all but buries the struggles of the black man in america....

which in my opinion is much more important to the black man currently living in america.....

afirican history is awesome and all.....but to me a black man living in america...our history here is more important...as it should be
 
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jono;6791725 said:
BlackJerryMaguire;6791658 said:
jono;6791633 said:
BlackJerryMaguire;6791559 said:
Newsflash America does not like you

And Africa doesn't know you.

That duality DuBois spoke of strikes again.

And u are assuming that off what?

The fact we have no connections to the people there that aren't superficial like all of us having similar skin tones.

Don't share a language, cultural norms, societal norms, religion etc. what makes the Igbo the Igbo, what makes the Bantu...Bantu and not Igbo.

gns;6791692 said:
jono;6791628 said:
Du_Du;6791239 said:
nah, cuz blacks be ignorant as shit to african culture....

they don't know shit about it, be confused as fuck wearing dashiki's for black history month, but don't even know what region or country the shit they rocking comes from....not to mention if that's even where they descend from....africa big as fuck yo.......like fucking humongous....and black people just be trying to group an entire continent in their history without knowing shit about it..

which is insulting as fuck to the struggle of the black american in this country.....blacks went through slavery, were "freed" only to be persecuted, hunted, killed and suffered through generations of shit, yet still managed to make numerous contributions to this country...

there's so much rich history right here in america that blacks made for themselves....struggles they've persevered over..progress made in multiple fields....

we have our own strong history completely separate from whatever african ancestors we have, and we should embrace that instead of denying it....

Rahlow;6791355 said:
2 different worlds

different struggles though some can be paralleled

different experiences

now days we are different peoples due to all the admixture even in the smallest percentages

Also "black" is a byword that was exclusively attributed to those of us in the USA that descend from the diaspora/slave trade that had our identity stripped from us.

Africans still have their ethnic tribal identity so therefore it makes no sense for them to lay that aside and take on a vague identity attributed to us lost ones in the Western Hemisphere. If I knew I was a Fulani/Hausa/Igbo/Fon/Ashanti/Wolof/Mandink/etc etc why would I lay that aside in exchange for being called a vague term such as

"black" or "African Amerikkkan", "negro", "colored"

At the end of the day... Igbo have their history

Yoruba have their history

blacks have our history

Keep in mind that Africa is the most diverse continent on the planet so there no sense in lumping us all in together with them
. Black is our new tribal identity and we have our own history to take pride in.

That's the truth.

I still find out new things about Black America everyday. There are so many great stories, people, ideas that go overlooked.

Du_Du;6791635 said:
shit's kinda disgusting, how so many would push the accomplishments of all those who struggled in this country aside to focus on an entire continent that wants nothing to do with the black american...

Du_Du;6791635 said:
shit's kinda disgusting, how so many would push the accomplishments of all those who struggled in this country aside to focus on an entire continent that wants nothing to do with the black american...

How exactly would learning about Africa impede or put AA history to the side?

Who sez u have to cram all this knowledge into one month?


Here's an amazing trick u guys should try......open up a history book on a prolific, black, freedom fighter,, on March 1st. I bet chall can do it.

I don't think anyone is arguing that it would or is.

And we are talking about black history month....not all year round. Anyone with common sense can read any book at any time.

Ok why are you assu mm in that i personally have no connection to Africa and that african - american culture has no connection to africa
 
Du_Du;6791736 said:
because africa is an ENTIRE CONTINENT with 10's of thousands if not millions of years of history tracing back to the origin of man himself....

black american history only goes back a few 100's of years

do the math.......if you're going to include african history with black american history.....naturally african history is going to over shadow.....which all but buries the struggles of the black man in america....

which in my opinion is much more important to the black man currently living in america.....

afirican history is awesome and all.....but to me a black man living in america...our history here is more important...as it should be

I don't see why emphasis can't be placed on American history while still having a role for African history as well other black Diaspora history.
 
but why combine it?

let black americans have their own unique history, as we have our own unique story....

we shouldn't have to piggy back off of africans to have relevance.....

we stand alone.... no one confuses the black american with a native african in any other setting.....so why blend the histories?
 
we stand alone

Smmfh

U niggaz over here start thinking just like your massas

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