Better Storyteller, Nas or The Notorious B.I.G?

[rapmastermind]

Well they are pretty close and both learned from Slick Rick and G Rap. But Biggie has the edge cause he told stories over an entire album. "Ready To Die" and "Life After Death" play like audio films or novels. Also if you look at the timeline it was clear NaS was influenced by Biggie's cinematic storytelling. Biggie was one of the 1st to use sound effects in his stories to help you with the visual. Take the beeper going off in the beginning of "Warning", the rain drops in "Somebody's Got To Die", litterally hearing Ron "Laughing" in "Niggas Bleed". Also Biggie compared himself to "Alfred Hitchcock" cause his story seem to always have shock endings or be very suspenseful. When NaS did "Undying Love" and commited suicide at the end after killing his girl and her lover she was cheating with was dope, the prequel to that story as he drives home drunk in "Drunk By Myself" discribing his feelings was even more epic. But when Biggie killed himself in "Sucidal Thoughts" and well as accidently killing a baby in "Somebody's Got To Die" you believed it more, it felt more real.

After Big's Death NaS definitely went on to have a broader storytelling catalog. But Big would tell stories even in songs that weren't storytelling, outside of Flow, Storytelling was clearly Biggie's best skill. When you look at the catalog it seems Big would do different genre's within his stories. Suspense Thrillers, Romatic Comedies, Crime adventures. I felt NaS definitley got more cinematic on "It Was Written" with "Shootouts" and he never looked back. Telling stories Backwards with "Rewind", Love triagles with "Blaze a 50" and he even rapped as a fetus, but Big did that also rapping from his mother's womb on the storytelling track "Respect". Again, NaS spit songs of Stories, Biggie spit full albums of stories. I think they are neck in neck but Big stories you believed more, some of NaS stories felt kinda forced where as Biggie it really felt like an audio film, each character and scene was painted out for you in your mind. Even his 1st solo song was a pretty dope story "Party and Bullshit" which even had a real fight at the end of the song. Big just had a way of telling a story through rap that always painted pictures.

 

[waterproof]

The thing with big is, his stories seem less forced then nas's. It's like he was just writing some shit and it just ended up a story. Some of Nas sound like he was trying to write a storytelling song specifically

word up as a non dickriding nas and tupac fan, who i rank higher than Bigge and Jay-Z... Im going to have to say Francis M.H. White is the better story teller then Nas, Nas story's seem force sometimes because he is trying to hard trying to force words into his storytelling. Where Biggie shit comes naturally, Biggie is not only telling you the story the nigga is the director by showing you the story, you are literally following the story when he rhymes. He wasnt called The Black Alfred Hitchock for nonthing

 

[kweyork]

word up as a non dickriding nas and tupac fan, who i rank higher than Bigge and Jay-Z... Im going to have to say Francis M.H. White is the better story teller then Nas, Nas story's seem force sometimes because he is trying to hard trying to force words into his storytelling. Where Biggie shit comes naturally, Biggie is not only telling you the story the nigga is the director by showing you the story, you are literally following the story when he rhymes. He wasnt called The Black Alfred Hitchock for nonthing

nahmean - previous post from rapmastermind on point too

fav biggie track - actually a storytellin track after analyzing earlier posts

[video=youtube;rogvlB2SP4k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rogvlB2SP4k[/video]

 

[blazn101]

Biggie is like Hitchcock - his gives you his view and makes you see what's going on, and he has those crazy endings. His raps are cinematic in the way that he tells them, you can tell by the beats him and puffy put together.

Nas is like Spielberg - you sit back and just watch what takes place, as he narrates. You listen as he puts his take on common things that you might not think about. His raps are like books in that way that he spins them, you can tell that by the beats his chooses also.

 

[garv]

Nas is the better storyteller, i don't buy that bullshit about Biggie winning cause he is more effortless, its easy to be effortless when your not writing stories as complexed as Undying Love or I Gave You Power, Biggie is writing stories straight of the top of his dome so he could never match the descriptiveness or complexities of a rapper like Nas. ANas has far more diverse stories, he is the more creative writer, his complexed meatphors are something which Biggie never even touched on during his short career.

Anbody who beleives Biggie is a better storyteller is on hard drugs, its one thing to say that you prefer his more simpler style of storytelling but in no way is he as gifted as Nas in that deparment, Nas is the king of storytelling, his discography is untouchable in that aspect.

I Gave You Power, Small World, Poppa Was A Playa, Undying Love, Rewind, Get Down, Doo Rags, The Set Up, Shootouts,One Love the list goes on.

 

[gman82]

Nas is the greatest storyteller in hip hop history. Big was excellent at telling stories but Nas reached the pinnacle of storytelling. Rewind, I gave you power, blaze a 50, one love, shootouts, last words, undying love, 2nd childhood, ect. /thread

 

[garv]

Well they are pretty close and both learned from Slick Rick and G Rap. But Biggie has the edge cause he told stories over an entire album. "Ready To Die" and "Life After Death" play like audio films or novels. Also if you look at the timeline it was clear NaS was influenced by Biggie's cinematic storytelling. Biggie was one of the 1st to use sound effects in his stories to help you with the visual. Take the beeper going off in the beginning of "Warning", the rain drops in "Somebody's Got To Die", litterally hearing Ron "Laughing" in "Niggas Bleed". Also Biggie compared himself to "Alfred Hitchcock" cause his story seem to always have shock endings or be very suspenseful. When NaS did "Undying Love" and commited suicide at the end after killing his girl and her lover she was cheating with was dope, the prequel to that story as he drives home drunk in "Drunk By Myself" discribing his feelings was even more epic. But when Biggie killed himself in "Sucidal Thoughts" and well as accidently killing a baby in "Somebody's Got To Die" you believed it more, it felt more real.

After Big's Death NaS definitely went on to have a broader storytelling catalog. But Big would tell stories even in songs that weren't storytelling, outside of Flow, Storytelling was clearly Biggie's best skill. When you look at the catalog it seems Big would do different genre's within his stories. Suspense Thrillers, Romatic Comedies, Crime adventures. I felt NaS definitley got more cinematic on "It Was Written" with "Shootouts" and he never looked back. Telling stories Backwards with "Rewind", Love triagles with "Blaze a 50" and he even rapped as a fetus, but Big did that also rapping from his mother's womb on the storytelling track "Respect". Again, NaS spit songs of Stories, Biggie spit full albums of stories. I think they are neck in neck but Big stories you believed more, some of NaS stories felt kinda forced where as Biggie it really felt like an audio film, each character and scene was painted out for you in your mind. Even his 1st solo song was a pretty dope story "Party and Bullshit" which even had a real fight at the end of the song. Big just had a way of telling a story through rap that always painted pictures.

Nas does this as well.

 

[garv]

Smh at posters saying Nas stories seem forced, i mean when you have nothing to criticize a rapper on you got to make up something.

If this is forced storytelling then............

[video=youtube;n-VnubADQuA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-VnubADQuA[/video]

 

[Antwuan89]

Biggie and Nas are 2 of my favorite rappers of all time but as for storytelling I got to give the slight edge to Biggie. When you listen to a Biggie track like for an example "Sucidal Thoughts" its almost like your are watching a movie, because its like his stories are told so real B.I.G. just knew how to paint a picture and give the full view. Nas is a great storyteller too but listen to "Somebody's Gotta Die" that song has to be one of the best storytelling songs ever.

Biggie has alot of great storytelling tracks.

Warning

Respect

Somebody's Gotta Die

Niggas Bleed

Everyday Struggle

Things Done Changed

Gimme The Loot

Me and My Bitch

I Got A Story To Tell

10 Crack Commandments

You're Nobody Till Somebody Kills You

 

[FyHunnit]

The thing is, Nas can make tell the same stories as Biggie/Pac .. But Big and Pac couldn't make a Rewind, or Who Killed It.

It Was Written could be scripted into a classic movie.

 

[NothingButTheTruth]

Someone needs to make a spinoff thread. Nas and Ghostface would be a way better comparison.

Biggie isn't up to par.

 

[Mvpbrodie93]

You could close your eyes and its like your right there in Niggaz Bleed

 

[Mvpbrodie93]

Big WAS more effortless, its like he wasnt even trying. not saying hes better then Nas but its true

Songs like I got a Story to Tell for example

 

[Str8Skippin]

Nas by a good margin.

 

[mryounggun]

That's a good one. I'll have to say BIG, since I have 'I Got a Story To Tell' as one of my top 3 greatest storytelling tracks of all time. Nas is right up there, though.

 

[Cabana_Da_Don]

Hold up "Drunk by myself" is the prequel to "undying love"?

 

[rapmastermind]

Hold up "Drunk by myself" is the prequel to "undying love"?

Obviously you are talking about my comment. Here's my thing, that is just my opinion of the story. NaS himself never confirmed it. "Drunk By Myself" was on the original "I am", if you listen to the song and the lyrics it's basically NaS drunk out of his mind on his way home driving. In My view it has a direct connection to "Undying Love". NaS starts the song, "My wife's tired of F*ckin me". I feel like "Drunk By Myself" discribs why NaS's problems in his relationship and "Undying Love" picks up on that. Again this is just my theory, cause the original "I am" was going to NaS 1st real storytelling type album. He had a lot of stories left on the cutting room floor. To me the 7 story telling songs go, "Fetus"-"Poppa Was a Playa"-"Blaze a 50"-"OK You Wanna Play Rough" -"Drunk By Myself" - "Undying Love" - "Amongst Kings". Birth, Childhood and growing up, Stories Adult Life, Crime and relationships, Afterlife. Think about that, 7 stories on 1 album.

If you follow those 7 storytelling tracks, it seems to be a strong narative of NaS's life and his issues. Only "Undying Love" made the album, 4 of the other stories ended up on "The Lost Tapes" and 2 other ones are still unreleased. Also to the person that said, "NaS does stories Big can't" it cuts both ways. NaS never told a funny story, NaS never told a romatic comedy on wax like "I got a story to tell". When people talk about Biggie they always bringing up his storytelling. Fans are aware of NaS storytelling abilities but it's not one of the 1st things mention when discussing him. Perfect example is another NaS story that didn't make "I am" on "Ok you wanna play rough". He raps about him and his goons going up in a house and terroizing a family but was it believeable?, where as Big did it in "Dead Wrong" and you are litteral in the house watching him terrorize that entire family, the graphic detail Big put forth was like watching a horror movie filed with torture.

 

[Cabana_Da_Don]

Obviously you are talking about my comment. Here's my thing, that is just my opinion of the story. NaS himself never confirmed it. "Drunk By Myself" was on the original "I am", if you listen to the song and the lyrics it's basically NaS drunk out of his mind on his way home driving. In My view it has a direct connection to "Undying Love". NaS starts the song, "My wife's tired of F*ckin me". I feel like "Drunk By Myself" discribs why NaS's problems in his relationship and "Undying Love" picks up on that. Again this is just my theory, cause the original "I am" was going to NaS 1st real storytelling type album. He had a lot of stories left on the cutting room floor. Also to the person that said, "NaS does stories Big can't" it cuts both ways. NaS never told a funny story, NaS never told a romatic comedy on wax like "I got a story to tell". When people talk about Biggie they always bringing up his storytelling. Fans are aware of NaS storytelling abilities but it's not one of the 1st things mention when discussing him.

I'm not questioning you.If this is true Nas is really above peoples intelligence.I think that shit makes sense.I wish he came out openly about it.Interesting Nas got some jems 10 years later.

 

[rapmastermind]

I'm not questioning you.If this is true Nas is really above peoples intelligence.I think that shit makes sense.I wish he came out openly about it.Interesting Nas got some jems 10 years later.

Well I was the one that brought it up that's why I said that. I edited my post to give you more of the breakdown. These were the stories that were suspose to be on I am before the Bootleg fiasco:

Fetus

Poppa Was a Playa

Ok You wanna play rough

Blaze a 50

Drunk By Myself

Undying Love

Amongst Kings

NaS clearly was either influenced or impressed by what Big did storytelling wise if you listen to these Stories, it's extremely cinematic storytelling. A lot of them play like Movies the same way Big did. NaS really was going to make a storytelling LP with "I am". "It Was Written" was NaS testing the waters with cinematic storytelling. The whole album doesn't play like a movie but certain songs do. But "I am" if it came out the way it should have would of played like an Audio Movie. But I stand by my opinion, "Drunk By Myself" could be a prequel to "Undying Love". And if you play, "Amongst Kings" after "Undying Love" they blend together almost perfectly.

 

[704Hustla]

The thing is, Nas can make tell the same stories as Biggie/Pac .. But Big and Pac couldn't make a Rewind, or Who Killed It.

It Was Written could be scripted into a classic movie.

he tried and the disaster was called belly..ya'll be reachin with nas...biggie is more effortless it's like he can just freestyle a story and be just as vivid as nas...nas can't funny grimey story..it's the same old deep shit he's one dimensional..biggie can make a grimey story and some funny shit..it still be dope