Better Rapper Vol. 125: Joe Budden vs J. Cole

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Ibex;c-9583938 said:
bck145;c-9583920 said:
Ibex;c-9583910 said:
bck145;c-9583887 said:
Ibex;c-9583880 said:
I'm still not understanding how a rapper that can't craft a great album is better than a rapper that can?. Budden has been living off mixtapes primarily his mood muzik series, but every great mixtape rapper has at least made one album that was a classic or had an impact. 50 has Get Rich or Die Trying, Curren$y has Pilot Talk, Wayne has the Carter 3.....So I ask again WHERE THE FUCK IS BUDDEN's ALBUM???

His albums better than j coles albums which die after a week of listening

Las year alone rage and the machine >>>> for your eyez only

I think there's about 4 million people that would disagree with you about Buddens albums being better than Cole's, and if you think any Budden ALBUM not a mixtape an Album is better than Forest Hills Drive you not listening to music you just skimming through it.

Good for those 4 million people...they are wrong

Fhd is a decent album..not my favorite j cole album and neither are touching most of Joe's albums ....maybe u should listen to budden before you judge solely based on who sells records

Bruh I listen to hip hop I don't go off record sales don't come at me with that bullshit. I was making the point that there is an overwhelming amount of people that prefer Cole's albums over Budden.

Budden's mood muzik projects are his best. Cole's Friday Night Lights, and The Warm Up are equal to those projects. So if that evens things out you have to base everything on albums an FHD is shitting on any Budden album.

Your the one brining up 4 million ppl like it plays a role in whose music is better...you can save that popular opinion shit

Mood muzik might be the best mixtape series by a rapper ever and changed the way ppl did mixtape...j coles aren't close to that

You over rating fhd like crazy my dude...it's a decent album and nothing more..It got old after 2 weeks...Budden got multuple albums better than that album
 
bck145;c-9583957 said:
Ibex;c-9583938 said:
bck145;c-9583920 said:
Ibex;c-9583910 said:
bck145;c-9583887 said:
Ibex;c-9583880 said:
I'm still not understanding how a rapper that can't craft a great album is better than a rapper that can?. Budden has been living off mixtapes primarily his mood muzik series, but every great mixtape rapper has at least made one album that was a classic or had an impact. 50 has Get Rich or Die Trying, Curren$y has Pilot Talk, Wayne has the Carter 3.....So I ask again WHERE THE FUCK IS BUDDEN's ALBUM???

His albums better than j coles albums which die after a week of listening

Las year alone rage and the machine >>>> for your eyez only

I think there's about 4 million people that would disagree with you about Buddens albums being better than Cole's, and if you think any Budden ALBUM not a mixtape an Album is better than Forest Hills Drive you not listening to music you just skimming through it.

Good for those 4 million people...they are wrong

Fhd is a decent album..not my favorite j cole album and neither are touching most of Joe's albums ....maybe u should listen to budden before you judge solely based on who sells records

Bruh I listen to hip hop I don't go off record sales don't come at me with that bullshit. I was making the point that there is an overwhelming amount of people that prefer Cole's albums over Budden.

Budden's mood muzik projects are his best. Cole's Friday Night Lights, and The Warm Up are equal to those projects. So if that evens things out you have to base everything on albums an FHD is shitting on any Budden album.

Your the one brining up 4 million ppl like it plays a role in whose music is better...you can save that popular opinion shit

Mood muzik might be the best mixtape series by a rapper ever and changed the way ppl did mixtape...j coles aren't close to that

You over rating fhd like crazy my dude...it's a decent album and nothing more..It got old after 2 weeks...Budden got multuple albums better than that album

"Mood Muzik is the best mixtape series ever" Really????? C'mon bruh if Budden your favorite that's cool but don't be disrespectful. I guess 50's G-Unit radio series, Wayne's Dedication series, Lupe's Fahrenheit series was all wack then.
 
Budden: Wordplay, Storytelling, Introspection, Topic Variety and Catalog

Cole: Flow and Relatability

Both come up short from a commercial standpoint.
 
R.D.;c-9583908 said:
Like Water;c-9583852 said:
R.D.;c-9583833 said:
Didn't read that one either past the 1st two sentences

Y'all niggas get weirder and weirder to me by the year

I know you really a decent poster is the thing but you mistaken my interactions with other posters for this one between us and you think it's something it's not

I got wild opinions and I stand strong on em, I'm never about the clown shit in the Reason

Okay, fam. You got it.

But I already knew that

Lame ass nigga ❤️

Nah. I just ain't feel like doing the back and forth with such a dumb ass nigga that can't even articulate his stance in a debate.

And I don't know how you some of you new niggas get down, but you can keep the funboy fag shit amongst yourselves.
 
Ibex;c-9583985 said:
bck145;c-9583957 said:
Ibex;c-9583938 said:
bck145;c-9583920 said:
Ibex;c-9583910 said:
bck145;c-9583887 said:
Ibex;c-9583880 said:
I'm still not understanding how a rapper that can't craft a great album is better than a rapper that can?. Budden has been living off mixtapes primarily his mood muzik series, but every great mixtape rapper has at least made one album that was a classic or had an impact. 50 has Get Rich or Die Trying, Curren$y has Pilot Talk, Wayne has the Carter 3.....So I ask again WHERE THE FUCK IS BUDDEN's ALBUM???

His albums better than j coles albums which die after a week of listening

Las year alone rage and the machine >>>> for your eyez only

I think there's about 4 million people that would disagree with you about Buddens albums being better than Cole's, and if you think any Budden ALBUM not a mixtape an Album is better than Forest Hills Drive you not listening to music you just skimming through it.

Good for those 4 million people...they are wrong

Fhd is a decent album..not my favorite j cole album and neither are touching most of Joe's albums ....maybe u should listen to budden before you judge solely based on who sells records

Bruh I listen to hip hop I don't go off record sales don't come at me with that bullshit. I was making the point that there is an overwhelming amount of people that prefer Cole's albums over Budden.

Budden's mood muzik projects are his best. Cole's Friday Night Lights, and The Warm Up are equal to those projects. So if that evens things out you have to base everything on albums an FHD is shitting on any Budden album.

Your the one brining up 4 million ppl like it plays a role in whose music is better...you can save that popular opinion shit

Mood muzik might be the best mixtape series by a rapper ever and changed the way ppl did mixtape...j coles aren't close to that

You over rating fhd like crazy my dude...it's a decent album and nothing more..It got old after 2 weeks...Budden got multuple albums better than that album

"Mood Muzik is the best mixtape series ever" Really????? C'mon bruh if Budden your favorite that's cool but don't be disrespectful. I guess 50's G-Unit radio series, Wayne's Dedication series, Lupe's Fahrenheit series was all wack then.

I didn't say any of them are wack...well except lil Wayne dedication, that shits wack

But mood muzik is better than g unit radio and fahrenheit...50 cent best mixtapes came before the g unit radio series actually

None of that has anything to do with budden's mixtapes are better than j coles
 
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bck145;c-9584068 said:
Ibex;c-9583985 said:
bck145;c-9583957 said:
Ibex;c-9583938 said:
bck145;c-9583920 said:
Ibex;c-9583910 said:
bck145;c-9583887 said:
Ibex;c-9583880 said:
I'm still not understanding how a rapper that can't craft a great album is better than a rapper that can?. Budden has been living off mixtapes primarily his mood muzik series, but every great mixtape rapper has at least made one album that was a classic or had an impact. 50 has Get Rich or Die Trying, Curren$y has Pilot Talk, Wayne has the Carter 3.....So I ask again WHERE THE FUCK IS BUDDEN's ALBUM???

His albums better than j coles albums which die after a week of listening

Las year alone rage and the machine >>>> for your eyez only

I think there's about 4 million people that would disagree with you about Buddens albums being better than Cole's, and if you think any Budden ALBUM not a mixtape an Album is better than Forest Hills Drive you not listening to music you just skimming through it.

Good for those 4 million people...they are wrong

Fhd is a decent album..not my favorite j cole album and neither are touching most of Joe's albums ....maybe u should listen to budden before you judge solely based on who sells records

Bruh I listen to hip hop I don't go off record sales don't come at me with that bullshit. I was making the point that there is an overwhelming amount of people that prefer Cole's albums over Budden.

Budden's mood muzik projects are his best. Cole's Friday Night Lights, and The Warm Up are equal to those projects. So if that evens things out you have to base everything on albums an FHD is shitting on any Budden album.

Your the one brining up 4 million ppl like it plays a role in whose music is better...you can save that popular opinion shit

Mood muzik might be the best mixtape series by a rapper ever and changed the way ppl did mixtape...j coles aren't close to that

You over rating fhd like crazy my dude...it's a decent album and nothing more..It got old after 2 weeks...Budden got multuple albums better than that album

"Mood Muzik is the best mixtape series ever" Really????? C'mon bruh if Budden your favorite that's cool but don't be disrespectful. I guess 50's G-Unit radio series, Wayne's Dedication series, Lupe's Fahrenheit series was all wack then.

I didn't say any of them are wack...well except lil Wayne dedication, that shits wack

But mood muzik is better than g unit radio and fahrenheit...50 cent best mixtapes came before the g unit radio series actually

None of that has anything to do with budden's mixtapes are better than j coles

Some niggas in here don't know their hip hop... Lmao at g unit radio mixtapes being better than mood musik.
 
Like Water;c-9584041 said:
R.D.;c-9583908 said:
Like Water;c-9583852 said:
R.D.;c-9583833 said:
Didn't read that one either past the 1st two sentences

Y'all niggas get weirder and weirder to me by the year

I know you really a decent poster is the thing but you mistaken my interactions with other posters for this one between us and you think it's something it's not

I got wild opinions and I stand strong on em, I'm never about the clown shit in the Reason

Okay, fam. You got it.

But I already knew that

Lame ass nigga ❤️

Nah. I just ain't feel like doing the back and forth with such a dumb ass nigga that can't even articulate his stance in a debate.

And I don't know how you some of you new niggas get down, but you can keep the funboy fag shit amongst yourselves.

Articulate these nuts bitch
 
CashmoneyDux;c-9584524 said:
bck145;c-9584068 said:
Ibex;c-9583985 said:
bck145;c-9583957 said:
Ibex;c-9583938 said:
bck145;c-9583920 said:
Ibex;c-9583910 said:
bck145;c-9583887 said:
Ibex;c-9583880 said:
I'm still not understanding how a rapper that can't craft a great album is better than a rapper that can?. Budden has been living off mixtapes primarily his mood muzik series, but every great mixtape rapper has at least made one album that was a classic or had an impact. 50 has Get Rich or Die Trying, Curren$y has Pilot Talk, Wayne has the Carter 3.....So I ask again WHERE THE FUCK IS BUDDEN's ALBUM???

His albums better than j coles albums which die after a week of listening

Las year alone rage and the machine >>>> for your eyez only

I think there's about 4 million people that would disagree with you about Buddens albums being better than Cole's, and if you think any Budden ALBUM not a mixtape an Album is better than Forest Hills Drive you not listening to music you just skimming through it.

Good for those 4 million people...they are wrong

Fhd is a decent album..not my favorite j cole album and neither are touching most of Joe's albums ....maybe u should listen to budden before you judge solely based on who sells records

Bruh I listen to hip hop I don't go off record sales don't come at me with that bullshit. I was making the point that there is an overwhelming amount of people that prefer Cole's albums over Budden.

Budden's mood muzik projects are his best. Cole's Friday Night Lights, and The Warm Up are equal to those projects. So if that evens things out you have to base everything on albums an FHD is shitting on any Budden album.

Your the one brining up 4 million ppl like it plays a role in whose music is better...you can save that popular opinion shit

Mood muzik might be the best mixtape series by a rapper ever and changed the way ppl did mixtape...j coles aren't close to that

You over rating fhd like crazy my dude...it's a decent album and nothing more..It got old after 2 weeks...Budden got multuple albums better than that album

"Mood Muzik is the best mixtape series ever" Really????? C'mon bruh if Budden your favorite that's cool but don't be disrespectful. I guess 50's G-Unit radio series, Wayne's Dedication series, Lupe's Fahrenheit series was all wack then.

I didn't say any of them are wack...well except lil Wayne dedication, that shits wack

But mood muzik is better than g unit radio and fahrenheit...50 cent best mixtapes came before the g unit radio series actually

None of that has anything to do with budden's mixtapes are better than j coles

Some niggas in here don't know their hip hop... Lmao at g unit radio mixtapes being better than mood musik.

Gucci Mane's The Movie Trilogy>>>>>>>Mood Muzik B)
 
R.D.;c-9584550 said:
Like Water;c-9584041 said:
R.D.;c-9583908 said:
Like Water;c-9583852 said:
R.D.;c-9583833 said:
Didn't read that one either past the 1st two sentences

Y'all niggas get weirder and weirder to me by the year

I know you really a decent poster is the thing but you mistaken my interactions with other posters for this one between us and you think it's something it's not

I got wild opinions and I stand strong on em, I'm never about the clown shit in the Reason

Okay, fam. You got it.

But I already knew that

Lame ass nigga ❤️

Nah. I just ain't feel like doing the back and forth with such a dumb ass nigga that can't even articulate his stance in a debate.

And I don't know how you some of you new niggas get down, but you can keep the funboy fag shit amongst yourselves.

Articulate these nuts bitch

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Keep Practicing
 
Ibex;c-9584560 said:
CashmoneyDux;c-9584524 said:
bck145;c-9584068 said:
Ibex;c-9583985 said:
bck145;c-9583957 said:
Ibex;c-9583938 said:
bck145;c-9583920 said:
Ibex;c-9583910 said:
bck145;c-9583887 said:
Ibex;c-9583880 said:
I'm still not understanding how a rapper that can't craft a great album is better than a rapper that can?. Budden has been living off mixtapes primarily his mood muzik series, but every great mixtape rapper has at least made one album that was a classic or had an impact. 50 has Get Rich or Die Trying, Curren$y has Pilot Talk, Wayne has the Carter 3.....So I ask again WHERE THE FUCK IS BUDDEN's ALBUM???

His albums better than j coles albums which die after a week of listening

Las year alone rage and the machine >>>> for your eyez only

I think there's about 4 million people that would disagree with you about Buddens albums being better than Cole's, and if you think any Budden ALBUM not a mixtape an Album is better than Forest Hills Drive you not listening to music you just skimming through it.

Good for those 4 million people...they are wrong

Fhd is a decent album..not my favorite j cole album and neither are touching most of Joe's albums ....maybe u should listen to budden before you judge solely based on who sells records

Bruh I listen to hip hop I don't go off record sales don't come at me with that bullshit. I was making the point that there is an overwhelming amount of people that prefer Cole's albums over Budden.

Budden's mood muzik projects are his best. Cole's Friday Night Lights, and The Warm Up are equal to those projects. So if that evens things out you have to base everything on albums an FHD is shitting on any Budden album.

Your the one brining up 4 million ppl like it plays a role in whose music is better...you can save that popular opinion shit

Mood muzik might be the best mixtape series by a rapper ever and changed the way ppl did mixtape...j coles aren't close to that

You over rating fhd like crazy my dude...it's a decent album and nothing more..It got old after 2 weeks...Budden got multuple albums better than that album

"Mood Muzik is the best mixtape series ever" Really????? C'mon bruh if Budden your favorite that's cool but don't be disrespectful. I guess 50's G-Unit radio series, Wayne's Dedication series, Lupe's Fahrenheit series was all wack then.

I didn't say any of them are wack...well except lil Wayne dedication, that shits wack

But mood muzik is better than g unit radio and fahrenheit...50 cent best mixtapes came before the g unit radio series actually

None of that has anything to do with budden's mixtapes are better than j coles

Some niggas in here don't know their hip hop... Lmao at g unit radio mixtapes being better than mood musik.

Gucci Mane's The Movie Trilogy>>>>>>>Mood Muzik B)

Thank you for posting that...now we all can have a clear understanding that you have no taste in hip hop music and can't be taken seriously

 
fhd was boring as fuck. don't know why people love this goofy ass nigga j cole

and i could name 3 joe projects of the top of my head thats better that coles best shit. foh.

from a hip hop standpoint no one can explain to

me why cole is better and sound credible

bars? come on my nigga.

artistry? have y'all heard joes first verse on love im good?( his last album) if someone can post a cole verse better than that i"ll send them money via PayPal. and that's not even top 5 joe verses

pray for me. a song in a throwaway mixtape for joe budden is a better song conceptually and more powerful than anything that came out of jcoles pen. I could be wrong, but ive heard mist of jcoles shit. that nigga is light. plain and simple

if you think jcole is a better Rapper you either a woman or you just have bad taste in hiphop

 
R.D.;c-9584550 said:
Like Water;c-9584041 said:
R.D.;c-9583908 said:
Like Water;c-9583852 said:
R.D.;c-9583833 said:
Didn't read that one either past the 1st two sentences

Y'all niggas get weirder and weirder to me by the year

I know you really a decent poster is the thing but you mistaken my interactions with other posters for this one between us and you think it's something it's not

I got wild opinions and I stand strong on em, I'm never about the clown shit in the Reason

Okay, fam. You got it.

But I already knew that

Lame ass nigga ❤️

Nah. I just ain't feel like doing the back and forth with such a dumb ass nigga that can't even articulate his stance in a debate.

And I don't know how you some of you new niggas get down, but you can keep the funboy fag shit amongst yourselves.

Articulate these nuts bitch

Pause, faggit.
 
I think Joe edges J Cole with more replay value in music. I go back to Joes first project and MM2 more than any project or collection of songs Cole has.
 
c. skillz;c-9584031 said:
Budden: Wordplay, Storytelling, Introspection, Topic Variety and Catalog

Cole: Flow and Relatability

Both come up short from a commercial standpoint.

You can't be serious. Cole has 3 platinum albums and 5 top 10 rap singles.

 
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Sion;c-9590211 said:
Ibex;c-9583880 said:
I'm still not understanding how a rapper that can't craft a great album is better than a rapper that can?. Budden has been living off mixtapes primarily his mood muzik series, but every great mixtape rapper has at least made one album that was a classic or had an impact. 50 has Get Rich or Die Trying, Curren$y has Pilot Talk, Wayne has the Carter 3.....So I ask again WHERE THE FUCK IS BUDDEN's ALBUM???

Because its the IC fam. People vicariously living through these rappers. To them Joe represents the under-appreciated who's dope but doesn't have all the success in his career but he has that reputation. He has the talent but not the accolades - which is how a lot of people see themselves (the underdog). That's why NaS is liked more than Jay-Z on the IC or Ross over 50. Buddens can be seen as a better MC but in no way is he a better rapper than J.Cole.

I warned y'all about this before - when J.Cole exceeds expectations and goes too far niggas will begin to turn on him. There was once upon a time when Drake could do no harm, he was loved on here, then he went multiplatinum on Take Care and just like that niggas went switch blade on him....

You'll see it with Kendrick Lamar too just give it time. Niggas will say Kendrick is "overrated", lame and can't make another GKMC instead of just enjoying the music SMMFH...

Whats the difference between a rapper and a MC? Since you're trying to differentiate.

 
Sion;c-9590211 said:
Ibex;c-9583880 said:
I'm still not understanding how a rapper that can't craft a great album is better than a rapper that can?. Budden has been living off mixtapes primarily his mood muzik series, but every great mixtape rapper has at least made one album that was a classic or had an impact. 50 has Get Rich or Die Trying, Curren$y has Pilot Talk, Wayne has the Carter 3.....So I ask again WHERE THE FUCK IS BUDDEN's ALBUM???

Because its the IC fam. People vicariously living through these rappers. To them Joe represents the under-appreciated who's dope but doesn't have all the success in his career but he has that reputation. He has the talent but not the accolades - which is how a lot of people see themselves (the underdog). That's why NaS is liked more than Jay-Z on the IC or Ross over 50. Buddens can be seen as a better MC but in no way is he a better rapper than J.Cole.

I warned y'all about this before - when J.Cole exceeds expectations and goes too far niggas will begin to turn on him. There was once upon a time when Drake could do no harm, he was loved on here, then he went multiplatinum on Take Care and just like that niggas went switch blade on him....

You'll see it with Kendrick Lamar too just give it time. Niggas will say Kendrick is "overrated", lame and can't make another GKMC instead of just enjoying the music SMMFH...

That's about as far wrong as a post can get
 

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