Better Rapper Vol. 125: Joe Budden vs J. Cole

[Like Water]

The one with 4 platinum albums

I'm a Cole fan, but there's no way he can see Budden on the mic. Not hatnin'. Sales of albums be damned.

I'm talking pure talent and skill.

IE. Find a realer song from Cole

Lmaoooo find a realer song from Cole than Budden

You're fucking trolling me

Nah. But you have fun finding one. Cuz best believe for every one you think is one, I can probably post like three that match/surpass it.

And I'm not some new Cole fan either. I've been following his works since before he was signed, so I'm more than familiar with what's out there.

Being a fan of someone is fine. Being an unreasonable, unrealistic Stan is unhealthy.

 

[R.D.]

The one with 4 platinum albums

I'm a Cole fan, but there's no way he can see Budden on the mic. Not hatnin'. Sales of albums be damned.

I'm talking pure talent and skill.

IE. Find a realer song from Cole

Lmaoooo find a realer song from Cole than Budden

You're fucking trolling me

Nah. But you have fun finding one. Cuz best believe for every one you think is one, I can probably post like three that match/surpass it.

And I'm not some new Cole fan either. I've been following his works since before he was signed, so I'm more than familiar with what's out there.

Being a fan of someone is fine. Being an unreasonable, unrealistic Stan is unhealthy.

You too old my g

The calling niggas a Stan shit is corny and doesn't move me one way or the other

What's real to you may not be real to me and vise versa so I'd be listing songs for practice

 

[Like Water]

Nah. You just don't know how to separate your fandom from what's real when it comes to Cole for whatever reason. And now, since you know that I'm an avid follower of Cole as well, your best response is the whole "subjective" shtick.

Example being, I'm a huge Lupe fan. However, based on his past few songs, his new album is probably gonna be wack as fuck and he acts like a baby back bitch way too often.

I'm not delusional when it comes to these people, because they're just people that make good music. They have no bearing on my life outside of that.

You fight for Cole like he pays you to do it. But whatever makes you happy, bruh.

 

[DOPEdweebz]

Skillwise what does J Cole really do better than Joe Budden as a rapper? I think Joe Budden wins in most categories. Not necessarily a blowout but a majoritu decision for Joe.

 

[R.D.]

I read the 1st paragraph...not reading anymore cause it's literally not that deep too me

My instinct is to rattle off the songs, I just don't care that deeply and you already fucked anytype of respectable back n forth by coming with disrespect off the rip

your argument is literally drop a Cole song and I'll outdo it with a Budden song...you already on your side of the fence

 

[DOPEdweebz]

The one with 4 platinum albums

This is literally why females opinion in hip hop are invalid.

 

[s3nterocks]

I read the 1st paragraph...not reading anymore cause it's literally not that deep too me

My instinct is to rattle off the songs, I just don't care that deeply and you already fucked anytype of respectable back n forth by coming with disrespect off the rip

your argument is literally drop a Cole song and I'll outdo it with a Budden song...you already on your side of the fence

Don't think I've ever @ anyone on any forum, but this shit is wild stupid to me. You click on a thread that's clearly set up for debating, give your stance, just to say that you're not going to debate when contested. It doesn't have to get "Deep" for one to provide points for their side of the argument. Cole is clearly the better song maker. But if you're talking skills, which is what the title of thread is referring to by saying RAPPER then you can easily make an argument for Budden. The best way to do that is to provide proof....ergo songs being posted.

 

[Like Water]

I read the 1st paragraph...not reading anymore cause it's literally not that deep too me

My instinct is to rattle off the songs, I just don't care that deeply and you already fucked anytype of respectable back n forth by coming with disrespect off the rip

your argument is literally drop a Cole song and I'll outdo it with a Budden song...you already on your side of the fence

You wild funny. Lol. You know you read the whole shit, my nigga. Keep it a buck and fuck all that "too cool for school" act you got going on. You just know I'm not some runt that you're gonna get one-up on so now you tryna turtle shell it. Lmao. Who disrespected you? I called it as I see it. Clearly there's some truth to it and you can't refute it and don't like it.

This was a chance for you to post/make an argument for why you thought Cole was better than Budden, yet the moment someone knowledgeable contests you, now, "it's not that serious"?

Lol.

 

[R.D.]

Didn't read that one either past the 1st two sentences

Y'all niggas get weirder and weirder to me by the year

I know you really a decent poster is the thing but you mistaken my interactions with other posters for this one between us and you think it's something it's not

I got wild opinions and I stand strong on em, I'm never about the clown shit in the Reason

 

[R.D.]

I read the 1st paragraph...not reading anymore cause it's literally not that deep too me

My instinct is to rattle off the songs, I just don't care that deeply and you already fucked anytype of respectable back n forth by coming with disrespect off the rip

your argument is literally drop a Cole song and I'll outdo it with a Budden song...you already on your side of the fence

Don't think I've ever @ anyone on any forum, but this shit is wild stupid to me. You click on a thread that's clearly set up for debating, give your stance, just to say that you're not going to debate when contested. It doesn't have to get "Deep" for one to provide points for their side of the argument. Cole is clearly the better song maker. But if you're talking skills, which is what the title of thread is referring to by saying RAPPER then you can easily make an argument for Budden. The best way to do that is to provide proof....ergo songs being posted.

Don't start now then

 

[Like Water]

Didn't read that one either past the 1st two sentences

Y'all niggas get weirder and weirder to me by the year

I know you really a decent poster is the thing but you mistaken my interactions with other posters for this one between us and you think it's something it's not

I got wild opinions and I stand strong on em, I'm never about the clown shit in the Reason

Okay, fam. You got it.

 

[Ibex]

I'm still not understanding how a rapper that can't craft a great album is better than a rapper that can?. Budden has been living off mixtapes primarily his mood muzik series, but every great mixtape rapper has at least made one album that was a classic or had an impact. 50 has Get Rich or Die Trying, Curren$y has Pilot Talk, Wayne has the Carter 3.....So I ask again WHERE THE FUCK IS BUDDEN's ALBUM???

 

[bck145]

I'm still not understanding how a rapper that can't craft a great album is better than a rapper that can?. Budden has been living off mixtapes primarily his mood muzik series, but every great mixtape rapper has at least made one album that was a classic or had an impact. 50 has Get Rich or Die Trying, Curren$y has Pilot Talk, Wayne has the Carter 3.....So I ask again WHERE THE FUCK IS BUDDEN's ALBUM???

His albums better than j coles albums which die after a week of listening

Las year alone rage and the machine >>>> for your eyez only

 

[qawshun]

Not a good match at all

 

[DOPEdweebz]

I'm still not understanding how a rapper that can't craft a great album is better than a rapper that can?. Budden has been living off mixtapes primarily his mood muzik series, but every great mixtape rapper has at least made one album that was a classic or had an impact. 50 has Get Rich or Die Trying, Curren$y has Pilot Talk, Wayne has the Carter 3.....So I ask again WHERE THE FUCK IS BUDDEN's ALBUM???

Carter 3 wasnt great, that was pre hype. Even tho FHD was Coles universal great album thats one only one hot album every four albums average and no that dont make him Nas, and I dont think people will put FHD up there with Get Rich or Die Trying or even GKMC but hry I could be wrong.

I personally enjoyed Joeys last trilogy but hey to some hip hoo fans universal acknowledgment is more important than personally relating.

 

[R.D.]

Didn't read that one either past the 1st two sentences

Y'all niggas get weirder and weirder to me by the year

I know you really a decent poster is the thing but you mistaken my interactions with other posters for this one between us and you think it's something it's not

I got wild opinions and I stand strong on em, I'm never about the clown shit in the Reason

Okay, fam. You got it.

But I already knew that

Lame ass nigga

 

[Ibex]

I'm still not understanding how a rapper that can't craft a great album is better than a rapper that can?. Budden has been living off mixtapes primarily his mood muzik series, but every great mixtape rapper has at least made one album that was a classic or had an impact. 50 has Get Rich or Die Trying, Curren$y has Pilot Talk, Wayne has the Carter 3.....So I ask again WHERE THE FUCK IS BUDDEN's ALBUM???

His albums better than j coles albums which die after a week of listening

Las year alone rage and the machine >>>> for your eyez only

I think there's about 4 million people that would disagree with you about Buddens albums being better than Cole's, and if you think any Budden ALBUM not a mixtape an Album is better than Forest Hills Drive you not listening to music you just skimming through it.

 

[R.D.]

I'm still not understanding how a rapper that can't craft a great album is better than a rapper that can?. Budden has been living off mixtapes primarily his mood muzik series, but every great mixtape rapper has at least made one album that was a classic or had an impact. 50 has Get Rich or Die Trying, Curren$y has Pilot Talk, Wayne has the Carter 3.....So I ask again WHERE THE FUCK IS BUDDEN's ALBUM???

His albums better than j coles albums which die after a week of listening

Las year alone rage and the machine >>>> for your eyez only

This is laughable

But only on the IC where hip hop elitist reside

 

[bck145]

I'm still not understanding how a rapper that can't craft a great album is better than a rapper that can?. Budden has been living off mixtapes primarily his mood muzik series, but every great mixtape rapper has at least made one album that was a classic or had an impact. 50 has Get Rich or Die Trying, Curren$y has Pilot Talk, Wayne has the Carter 3.....So I ask again WHERE THE FUCK IS BUDDEN's ALBUM???

His albums better than j coles albums which die after a week of listening

Las year alone rage and the machine >>>> for your eyez only

I think there's about 4 million people that would disagree with you about Buddens albums being better than Cole's, and if you think any Budden ALBUM not a mixtape an Album is better than Forest Hills Drive you not listening to music you just skimming through it.

Good for those 4 million people...they are wrong

Fhd is a decent album..not my favorite j cole album and neither are touching most of Joe's albums ....maybe u should listen to budden before you judge solely based on who sells records

 

[Ibex]

I'm still not understanding how a rapper that can't craft a great album is better than a rapper that can?. Budden has been living off mixtapes primarily his mood muzik series, but every great mixtape rapper has at least made one album that was a classic or had an impact. 50 has Get Rich or Die Trying, Curren$y has Pilot Talk, Wayne has the Carter 3.....So I ask again WHERE THE FUCK IS BUDDEN's ALBUM???

His albums better than j coles albums which die after a week of listening

Las year alone rage and the machine >>>> for your eyez only

I think there's about 4 million people that would disagree with you about Buddens albums being better than Cole's, and if you think any Budden ALBUM not a mixtape an Album is better than Forest Hills Drive you not listening to music you just skimming through it.

Good for those 4 million people...they are wrong

Fhd is a decent album..not my favorite j cole album and neither are touching most of Joe's albums ....maybe u should listen to budden before you judge solely based on who sells records

Bruh I listen to hip hop I don't go off record sales don't come at me with that bullshit. I was making the point that there is an overwhelming amount of people that prefer Cole's albums over Budden.

Budden's mood muzik projects are his best. Cole's Friday Night Lights, and The Warm Up are equal to those projects. So if that evens things out you have to base everything on albums an FHD is shitting on any Budden album.