Better Rapper Vol. 104: Notorious BIG vs Ice Cube

[Idiopathic Joker]

I'm a fan of both, but don't sit there and act like Cube couldn't rap. That's nonsense and proves you don't listen to his music. And I never heard about Cube having ghostwriters, where that come from?

 

[_Goldie_]

Cube never spit a clever bar in his life

 

[_Goldie_]

Dope actor tho

 

[NoCompetition]

Not gon get into the emotional nonsense. Its hard to vote against Cube. A lot of youngsters have a surface view of him but being there from NWA through all the solo through Lethal Injection...etc. And Im not downplaying Big as a rapper at all. Its just its Ice Cube your talking about.

 

[Idiopathic Joker]

Cube never spit a clever bar in his life

This fucking guy.

Picture a nigga that's raw

Amplify his ass and what you see is what's on

Motherfuckers I slaughter, blow em out the water

Word to me, fuck the father

My melody is deadly as a pin in a hand grenade

5 seconds before you get played

You can't throw me, I guess you'll blow up

Ever see a sucker scattered? It'll make you throw up

Then I take advantage, you can't manage

To get up, all you can do is sit up, I get lit up

Hit up, Ice Cube tear shit up

Like a dude you can bet on

Collide like a head on

Collision , stutter stepping is an incision

Of a nigga saying exactly what I vision

Because I'm gone, you think I left you all

But I stay in yo' ass like cholesterol

When I blast I'm solid as Alcatraz

And if you escape, you better swim fast

Cause I'll catch ya, physically and mentally

And the capital punishment's the penalty

Sit in the electric chair, grab a hold

Pull the switch, your body twitch, your eyes explode

Out your skull cause being dull on a flow

Is an N-O , niggas didn't know that I can go

Off and show off to throw off the law

Turn, take 10 spaces then draw

What's left is a motherfucker dead in the alley

Ice Cube is the shit on the grand finale

 

[Shortz1]

Biggie is way better as far as rapping

 

[_Goldie_]

Cube never spit a clever bar in his life

This fucking guy.

Picture a nigga that's raw

Amplify his ass and what you see is what's on

Motherfuckers I slaughter, blow em out the water

Word to me, fuck the father

My melody is deadly as a pin in a hand grenade

5 seconds before you get played

You can't throw me, I guess you'll blow up

Ever see a sucker scattered? It'll make you throw up

Then I take advantage, you can't manage

To get up, all you can do is sit up, I get lit up

Hit up, Ice Cube tear shit up

Like a dude you can bet on

Collide like a head on

Collision , stutter stepping is an incision

Of a nigga saying exactly what I vision

Because I'm gone, you think I left you all

But I stay in yo' ass like cholesterol

When I blast I'm solid as Alcatraz

And if you escape, you better swim fast

Cause I'll catch ya, physically and mentally

And the capital punishment's the penalty

Sit in the electric chair, grab a hold

Pull the switch, your body twitch, your eyes explode

Out your skull cause being dull on a flow

Is an N-O , niggas didn't know that I can go

Off and show off to throw off the law

Turn, take 10 spaces then draw

What's left is a motherfucker dead in the alley

Ice Cube is the shit on the grand finale

And which one of those bars were clever to you?

 

[RickyRich]

Biggie is average. He brought nothing to game that was game changing.

He is that nigga that went into his turtle shell when Pac came at his neck.

And that's the nigga y'all wanna stand behind.

It took other NY Artist to put on for the city against the West.

He brought New York back

Cube got knocked out and got his chain not snatched but calmly taken off his unconscious neck

Cube stole Cypress hills song and lied about it

Didn't he have ghostwriters?

Pac fucked his wife

Ether right there

 

[Already Home_17]

CUBE

Dude brings it every time. Ain't no "lookin' so good I'd suck ya daddy's dick" shit from Cube. He comes correct. (and don't give a fuck what BIG was referencing from comedy skits or whatever) Cube's pen game is DOPE. Underrated as fuck!

"wanna fuck me but I rather fuck you" - No Vaseline

said with emphasis, then a pause to let the lyrics fully sync in...

he wasn't talking about no bitch either

 

[DOPEdweebz]

So glad NY won. I mean Biggie.

 

[KamPushMe]

Death certificate >>>>>>>>> any big album

 

[kingblaze84]

In The Commision, you ask for permission to hit em

He don't like me, hit him when wifey was wit em

You heard of us, the murderers, most shady

Been on the low lately, the feds hate me

The son of *Satan*, they say my killin's too blatant

You hesitatin, I'm in your mama crib waitin

Duct tapin, your fam destiny

lays in my hands, gat lays in my waist

Francis, M to the iz-H phenominal

Gun rest under your vest by the abdominal

Rhyme a few bars so I can buy a few cars

And I kick a few flows so I can pimp a few hoes

Excellence is my presence, never tense

Never hesitant, leave a nigga bent real quick

Real sick, raw nights, I perform like Mike

Anyone -- Tyson, Jordan, Jackson

action, pack guns, ridiculous

And I'm, quick to bust, if my ends you touch

Kids or girl you touch, in this world I clutch

Two auto-matoes, used to call me fatso

Now you call me Castro, my rap flows

militant, y'all faggots ain't killin shit

Ooops Cristal keep spillin shit, you overdid it homes

You in the danger zone, you shouldn't be alone

Hold hands and say it like me

The most shady, Frankie baby, fantastic

Graphic, tryin to make dough, like Jurassic

Park did quick to spark kids who start shit

See me, only me

The Underboss of this holocaust

Truly yours, Frank White

"We got the shit mapped tight, brass knuckles and flashlights

The heaters in the two-seaters, with two miras

Senoritas, kiss rings when you meet us

P. Diddy run the city, show no pity

I'm the witty one, Frank's the crook from the Brook'

Matty broke the neck of your coke connect

No respect squeeze off 'til all y'all diminish

Shootouts for twenty minutes, until we finish

Then it's to the loot, escaped, in the Coupe

Break bread, with the 'Kiss, Peniro, Sheek Louch'

Black Rob joined the Mob, it ain't no replacin him

Niggas step up, we just macin them, placin' them

In funerals, criminals turn the vials

To Brick City, nobody come off like P. Diddy

Business wise, I play men

Hide money on the Island Cayman

Y'all just portray men, we spray men

Opposition, competition

Another day in the life, of the Commission"

BIG spazzed the fuck out on Victory. I absolutely believe he was evolving into an even doper lyricist. 2 of the greatest verses ever in my opinion.

That's the thing that really makes me sad when I think about Biggie's death. He was only getting better. I don't think he ever reached his full potential, it's crazy to imagine how good he could have been.

Yeah I feel the same way about pac if you listen to each album he was getting better

Yeah, 2pac would have grown a lot as an artist and he proved that with the 7 Day Theory. He made a classic album in 7 days!!!!

It's scary and incredibly sad to think about, but I think 2pac was on his way to making an album better then 7 Day Theory, if he could make a classic album in 7 days, imagine what he could have done in 20 or 30 days, with the right production. My eyes get teary thinking about it, he was becoming more conscious about social issues and could have been a real leader if he got away from the negative influences around him. Me Against The World and 7 Day Theory was just scratching the surface with his potential. A lot of people thought he wouldn't be able to top 2pacalypse Now, and he somehow did.

 

[RickyRich]

In The Commision, you ask for permission to hit em

He don't like me, hit him when wifey was wit em

You heard of us, the murderers, most shady

Been on the low lately, the feds hate me

The son of *Satan*, they say my killin's too blatant

You hesitatin, I'm in your mama crib waitin

Duct tapin, your fam destiny

lays in my hands, gat lays in my waist

Francis, M to the iz-H phenominal

Gun rest under your vest by the abdominal

Rhyme a few bars so I can buy a few cars

And I kick a few flows so I can pimp a few hoes

Excellence is my presence, never tense

Never hesitant, leave a nigga bent real quick

Real sick, raw nights, I perform like Mike

Anyone -- Tyson, Jordan, Jackson

action, pack guns, ridiculous

And I'm, quick to bust, if my ends you touch

Kids or girl you touch, in this world I clutch

Two auto-matoes, used to call me fatso

Now you call me Castro, my rap flows

militant, y'all faggots ain't killin shit

Ooops Cristal keep spillin shit, you overdid it homes

You in the danger zone, you shouldn't be alone

Hold hands and say it like me

The most shady, Frankie baby, fantastic

Graphic, tryin to make dough, like Jurassic

Park did quick to spark kids who start shit

See me, only me

The Underboss of this holocaust

Truly yours, Frank White

"We got the shit mapped tight, brass knuckles and flashlights

The heaters in the two-seaters, with two miras

Senoritas, kiss rings when you meet us

P. Diddy run the city, show no pity

I'm the witty one, Frank's the crook from the Brook'

Matty broke the neck of your coke connect

No respect squeeze off 'til all y'all diminish

Shootouts for twenty minutes, until we finish

Then it's to the loot, escaped, in the Coupe

Break bread, with the 'Kiss, Peniro, Sheek Louch'

Black Rob joined the Mob, it ain't no replacin him

Niggas step up, we just macin them, placin' them

In funerals, criminals turn the vials

To Brick City, nobody come off like P. Diddy

Business wise, I play men

Hide money on the Island Cayman

Y'all just portray men, we spray men

Opposition, competition

Another day in the life, of the Commission"

BIG spazzed the fuck out on Victory. I absolutely believe he was evolving into an even doper lyricist. 2 of the greatest verses ever in my opinion.

That's the thing that really makes me sad when I think about Biggie's death. He was only getting better. I don't think he ever reached his full potential, it's crazy to imagine how good he could have been.

Yeah I feel the same way about pac if you listen to each album he was getting better

Yeah, 2pac would have grown a lot as an artist and he proved that with the 7 Day Theory. He made a classic album in 7 days!!!!

It's scary and incredibly sad to think about, but I think 2pac was on his way to making an album better then 7 Day Theory, if he could make a classic album in 7 days, imagine what he could have done in 20 or 30 days, with the right production. My eyes get teary thinking about it, he was becoming more conscious about social issues and could have been a real leader if he got away from the negative influences around him. Me Against The World and 7 Day Theory was just scratching the surface with his potential. A lot of people thought he wouldn't be able to top 2pacalypse Now, and he somehow did.

Makes me so mad that he thew everything away like that. 7 day one of his best albums and my fav

 

[kingblaze84]

Cube never spit a clever bar in his life

This fucking guy.

Picture a nigga that's raw

Amplify his ass and what you see is what's on

Motherfuckers I slaughter, blow em out the water

Word to me, fuck the father

My melody is deadly as a pin in a hand grenade

5 seconds before you get played

You can't throw me, I guess you'll blow up

Ever see a sucker scattered? It'll make you throw up

Then I take advantage, you can't manage

To get up, all you can do is sit up, I get lit up

Hit up, Ice Cube tear shit up

Like a dude you can bet on

Collide like a head on

Collision , stutter stepping is an incision

Of a nigga saying exactly what I vision

Because I'm gone, you think I left you all

But I stay in yo' ass like cholesterol

When I blast I'm solid as Alcatraz

And if you escape, you better swim fast

Cause I'll catch ya, physically and mentally

And the capital punishment's the penalty

Sit in the electric chair, grab a hold

Pull the switch, your body twitch, your eyes explode

Out your skull cause being dull on a flow

Is an N-O , niggas didn't know that I can go

Off and show off to throw off the law

Turn, take 10 spaces then draw

What's left is a motherfucker dead in the alley

Ice Cube is the shit on the grand finale

This is clever....? HAHA okay, nice verse but clever is a stretch

 

[_Lefty]

Making great albums doesn't make you a great rapper. Kurupt was better than snoop lyrically, he never made doggystyle. Pac wasn't that lyrical, he has multiple classics.

What made B.I.G. special is he could make dope albums whilst bein nasty technically. All that charisma, and would bite ya muthafuckin head off lyrically. Flash rooted in fundamentals. You know who else was like that?

Spoiler

Cube nice, and we could go all day on who made the better albums. But that fat nigga from brooklyn would out class him on the mic.

He was 17 bruh.....

 

[kingblaze84]

In The Commision, you ask for permission to hit em

He don't like me, hit him when wifey was wit em

You heard of us, the murderers, most shady

Been on the low lately, the feds hate me

The son of *Satan*, they say my killin's too blatant

You hesitatin, I'm in your mama crib waitin

Duct tapin, your fam destiny

lays in my hands, gat lays in my waist

Francis, M to the iz-H phenominal

Gun rest under your vest by the abdominal

Rhyme a few bars so I can buy a few cars

And I kick a few flows so I can pimp a few hoes

Excellence is my presence, never tense

Never hesitant, leave a nigga bent real quick

Real sick, raw nights, I perform like Mike

Anyone -- Tyson, Jordan, Jackson

action, pack guns, ridiculous

And I'm, quick to bust, if my ends you touch

Kids or girl you touch, in this world I clutch

Two auto-matoes, used to call me fatso

Now you call me Castro, my rap flows

militant, y'all faggots ain't killin shit

Ooops Cristal keep spillin shit, you overdid it homes

You in the danger zone, you shouldn't be alone

Hold hands and say it like me

The most shady, Frankie baby, fantastic

Graphic, tryin to make dough, like Jurassic

Park did quick to spark kids who start shit

See me, only me

The Underboss of this holocaust

Truly yours, Frank White

"We got the shit mapped tight, brass knuckles and flashlights

The heaters in the two-seaters, with two miras

Senoritas, kiss rings when you meet us

P. Diddy run the city, show no pity

I'm the witty one, Frank's the crook from the Brook'

Matty broke the neck of your coke connect

No respect squeeze off 'til all y'all diminish

Shootouts for twenty minutes, until we finish

Then it's to the loot, escaped, in the Coupe

Break bread, with the 'Kiss, Peniro, Sheek Louch'

Black Rob joined the Mob, it ain't no replacin him

Niggas step up, we just macin them, placin' them

In funerals, criminals turn the vials

To Brick City, nobody come off like P. Diddy

Business wise, I play men

Hide money on the Island Cayman

Y'all just portray men, we spray men

Opposition, competition

Another day in the life, of the Commission"

BIG spazzed the fuck out on Victory. I absolutely believe he was evolving into an even doper lyricist. 2 of the greatest verses ever in my opinion.

That's the thing that really makes me sad when I think about Biggie's death. He was only getting better. I don't think he ever reached his full potential, it's crazy to imagine how good he could have been.

Yeah I feel the same way about pac if you listen to each album he was getting better

Yeah, 2pac would have grown a lot as an artist and he proved that with the 7 Day Theory. He made a classic album in 7 days!!!!

It's scary and incredibly sad to think about, but I think 2pac was on his way to making an album better then 7 Day Theory, if he could make a classic album in 7 days, imagine what he could have done in 20 or 30 days, with the right production. My eyes get teary thinking about it, he was becoming more conscious about social issues and could have been a real leader if he got away from the negative influences around him. Me Against The World and 7 Day Theory was just scratching the surface with his potential. A lot of people thought he wouldn't be able to top 2pacalypse Now, and he somehow did.

Makes me so mad that he thew everything away like that. 7 day one of his best albums and my fav

7 Day Theory is my favorite album of all time personally, just ahead of Me Against The World. But yeah it's a shame he got caught up like that, he was in a desperate situation and as a New Yorker, I wish NY could have shown him more love at the time and help him out. Suge stepped up and Pac felt obligated to protect and do some of the foolish things Suge was involved in.

If other influences could have pushed him the right way, he would still be here.

 

[kingblaze84]

Cube never spit a clever bar in his life

This fucking guy.

Picture a nigga that's raw

Amplify his ass and what you see is what's on

Motherfuckers I slaughter, blow em out the water

Word to me, fuck the father

My melody is deadly as a pin in a hand grenade

5 seconds before you get played

You can't throw me, I guess you'll blow up

Ever see a sucker scattered? It'll make you throw up

Then I take advantage, you can't manage

To get up, all you can do is sit up, I get lit up

Hit up, Ice Cube tear shit up

Like a dude you can bet on

Collide like a head on

Collision , stutter stepping is an incision

Of a nigga saying exactly what I vision

Because I'm gone, you think I left you all

But I stay in yo' ass like cholesterol

When I blast I'm solid as Alcatraz

And if you escape, you better swim fast

Cause I'll catch ya, physically and mentally

And the capital punishment's the penalty

Sit in the electric chair, grab a hold

Pull the switch, your body twitch, your eyes explode

Out your skull cause being dull on a flow

Is an N-O , niggas didn't know that I can go

Off and show off to throw off the law

Turn, take 10 spaces then draw

What's left is a motherfucker dead in the alley

Ice Cube is the shit on the grand finale

And which one of those bars were clever to you?

Same shit I was thinking lol

 

[DOPEdweebz]

Explain @JokerBadAzz

 

[RickyRich]

In The Commision, you ask for permission to hit em

He don't like me, hit him when wifey was wit em

You heard of us, the murderers, most shady

Been on the low lately, the feds hate me

The son of *Satan*, they say my killin's too blatant

You hesitatin, I'm in your mama crib waitin

Duct tapin, your fam destiny

lays in my hands, gat lays in my waist

Francis, M to the iz-H phenominal

Gun rest under your vest by the abdominal

Rhyme a few bars so I can buy a few cars

And I kick a few flows so I can pimp a few hoes

Excellence is my presence, never tense

Never hesitant, leave a nigga bent real quick

Real sick, raw nights, I perform like Mike

Anyone -- Tyson, Jordan, Jackson

action, pack guns, ridiculous

And I'm, quick to bust, if my ends you touch

Kids or girl you touch, in this world I clutch

Two auto-matoes, used to call me fatso

Now you call me Castro, my rap flows

militant, y'all faggots ain't killin shit

Ooops Cristal keep spillin shit, you overdid it homes

You in the danger zone, you shouldn't be alone

Hold hands and say it like me

The most shady, Frankie baby, fantastic

Graphic, tryin to make dough, like Jurassic

Park did quick to spark kids who start shit

See me, only me

The Underboss of this holocaust

Truly yours, Frank White

"We got the shit mapped tight, brass knuckles and flashlights

The heaters in the two-seaters, with two miras

Senoritas, kiss rings when you meet us

P. Diddy run the city, show no pity

I'm the witty one, Frank's the crook from the Brook'

Matty broke the neck of your coke connect

No respect squeeze off 'til all y'all diminish

Shootouts for twenty minutes, until we finish

Then it's to the loot, escaped, in the Coupe

Break bread, with the 'Kiss, Peniro, Sheek Louch'

Black Rob joined the Mob, it ain't no replacin him

Niggas step up, we just macin them, placin' them

In funerals, criminals turn the vials

To Brick City, nobody come off like P. Diddy

Business wise, I play men

Hide money on the Island Cayman

Y'all just portray men, we spray men

Opposition, competition

Another day in the life, of the Commission"

BIG spazzed the fuck out on Victory. I absolutely believe he was evolving into an even doper lyricist. 2 of the greatest verses ever in my opinion.

That's the thing that really makes me sad when I think about Biggie's death. He was only getting better. I don't think he ever reached his full potential, it's crazy to imagine how good he could have been.

Yeah I feel the same way about pac if you listen to each album he was getting better

Yeah, 2pac would have grown a lot as an artist and he proved that with the 7 Day Theory. He made a classic album in 7 days!!!!

It's scary and incredibly sad to think about, but I think 2pac was on his way to making an album better then 7 Day Theory, if he could make a classic album in 7 days, imagine what he could have done in 20 or 30 days, with the right production. My eyes get teary thinking about it, he was becoming more conscious about social issues and could have been a real leader if he got away from the negative influences around him. Me Against The World and 7 Day Theory was just scratching the surface with his potential. A lot of people thought he wouldn't be able to top 2pacalypse Now, and he somehow did.

Makes me so mad that he thew everything away like that. 7 day one of his best albums and my fav

7 Day Theory is my favorite album of all time personally, just ahead of Me Against The World. But yeah it's a shame he got caught up like that, he was in a desperate situation and as a New Yorker, I wish NY could have shown him more love at the time and help him out. Suge stepped up and Pac felt obligated to protect and do some of the foolish things Suge was involved in.

If other influences could have pushed him the right way, he would still be here.

Ya i feel older heads shoulda stepped in and talked to that nigga.maybe that woulda helped him more. Cuz he was still a young a nigga at the time .