Better Overall Wrestler Vol. 2: HBK vs Stone Cold Steve Austin

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i can see how owens losing to cena 3 times afterwards looks bad, but i say cena definitely put owens over, clean.

key word clean here, but he's done that 3 times in the last 3 years, and tbh with you thats 3 more times than i would have expected 3 years ago.
 
Peezy_Jenkins;8494188 said:
i can see how owens losing to cena 3 times afterwards looks bad, but i say cena definitely put owens over, clean.

key word clean here, but he's done that 3 times in the last 3 years, and tbh with you thats 3 more times than i would have expected 3 years ago.

He lost to Owens clean, losing to somebody and putting someone over are two completely different things, the entire idea of putting over i'snt losing, its taking someone to a new level of credibility which cant happen simply in the course of one match, its not that Benoit just beat HHH, its that he did it continuously and was booked strong in the process, HHH did the same for Batista and Orton....

The only reason Owens beat Cena is bc it's apart of Cenas gimmick to "overcome the odds" bc the E always wants him to be portrayed as the underdog when he's the exact opposite, Cena will lose one match (clean on rare occasion) in damn near every fued only to come back and squash the Heel in a Superman type fashion, then the Heel (especially if he's not a veteran) is lucky to come out of the feud with a crumb of credibility left, Cenas been doing the same shit since 2005
 
i like how u change the meanings constantly to fit your agenda for hhh or against cena. apply the same narrative in that post to hhh and 85% of the niggas u say hhh "put over" and your argument is gone. FOH
 
Peezy_Jenkins;8494233 said:
apply that narrative to flair and ur ridiculous argument that he put no one over in his prime is also done

I stand by my Flair comments, yea Flair lost feuds (it's expected being Heel) and since he lost feuds you can say he made guys look good obviously, but he didn't make guys look good enough to carry the ball and be The guy..

Flair in his prime (NWA days) isn't much different from Hogan, both would at times help elevate people for business but they would typically do that with wrestlers they knew wouldn't be a threat to them and that would return the favor (and more) down the road. Hogan just took it to another level but it's expected bc he was a greater Superstar than Flair, tbh if it wasn't for HHH and HBKs major love for Flair his legacy wouldn't be as overrated as it is today by the E...
 
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People forget the littke shit that put characters over. The inbetween segments that werent in the ring but at random areas. Stone Cold has a hilarious highlight reel of shit people forgot.
 
Stone Cold dominated the Attitude Era

HBK dominated the shitty era beforehand that lead to WCW becoming the top brand.

Austin 3:16 says this thread is full of shit
 
blu197;8487536 said:
jono;8487473 said:
Flair? This nigga just said RIC FLAIR don't put people over? The stylin and profilin, limousine ridin, jet flyin, WOOOOOOOOO Nature Boy?

GTFOH

You don't reach 16 World Titles but at the same time put over talent, that doesn't even make sense.. Flair in his older Ruthless Aggression WWE days put people over but not in his NWA,WWF and especially his WCW Four Horsemen days

You don't lose a world title 16 Times by not putting people over.
 

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