Better Overall Wrestler Vol. 2: HBK vs Stone Cold Steve Austin

[blu197]

All that useless false shit you typed doesn't change the FACT that HHH put Rock over, but keep being retarded... Niggas like you can't be taken seriously when talkin about HHH or any topic about wrestling, the type of nigga that wanted HHH to lose every high profile match he was in and if he didn't he was burying guys or feeding his ego to you lames, lol @ HHH being "bland" when DX when first popped off in the Attitude Era, dumbest shit i ever read....

so hhh wasnt hbk lackey when dx first popped off? damn near being overshadowed by chyna?

and nah hhh aint have to lose every high profile match, just lose at the right time.

i havent seen your answer to who has a higher list of niggas they buried or didnt put over at the right time

Cena, Flair and Hogan (when you combine his WWF and WCW run) are top 3, don't know how HHH can be considered the highest when he's actually put over multiple people at the right time and he was doing what Flair and the Kliq taught him to do as far as keeping his spot at the top

 

[jono]

Flair? This nigga just said RIC FLAIR don't put people over? The stylin and profilin, limousine ridin, jet flyin, WOOOOOOOOO Nature Boy?

GTFOH

 

[blu197]

Flair? This nigga just said RIC FLAIR don't put people over? The stylin and profilin, limousine ridin, jet flyin, WOOOOOOOOO Nature Boy?

GTFOH

You don't reach 16 World Titles but at the same time put over talent, that doesn't even make sense.. Flair in his older Ruthless Aggression WWE days put people over but not in his NWA,WWF and especially his WCW Four Horsemen days

 

[DOPEdweebz]

Putting people over is when you're the man for a significant period of time aka main event level and lose to another guy of a CLEARLY lesser status constantly or cleanly.

 

[DOPEdweebz]

Watch Stings early WCW career. He was constantly putting guys over. The best definition. The Rock is probably the best thing example in the WWE as far as super main event status. Even Orton put over Mark Henry clean at times. Cena with Owens.

 

[blu197]

Watch Stings early WCW career. He was constantly putting guys over. The best definition. The Rock is probably the best thing example in the WWE as far as super main event status. Even Orton put over Mark Henry clean at times. Cena with Owens.

Mick Foley put over more guys in the E than Rock to me.. Cena didn't put over Owens, he let Owens beat him clean once (when it wasn't for the Title) then Cena beat him clean 3 times in a row and made him tap

 

[DOPEdweebz]

Watch Stings early WCW career. He was constantly putting guys over. The best definition. The Rock is probably the best thing example in the WWE as far as super main event status. Even Orton put over Mark Henry clean at times. Cena with Owens.

Mick Foley put over more guys in the E than Rock to me.. Cena didn't put over Owens, he let Owens beat him clean once (when it wasn't for the Title) then Cena beat him clean 3 times in a row and made him tap

Mick Foley is a good choice. I can see your point with Owens vs Cena. But I gotta agree with Peezy about HHH vs The Rock during the IC days. They were both about the same status, and The Rock kinda skyrocketed pass HHH a bit. I felt in 2000 that The Rock was putting over HHH actually. Alot of guys weee putting HHH over b4 he could put anyone over. You cant be an IC level and "put guys over" unless you been a clear IC level talent for years and is putting new talent over. HHH was on and off IC level b4 he became the DX leader by default after HBKs retirement.

HHH and the Rock were kinda like the Cena and Orton b4 Cena and Orton, except by the time they feuded at the main event, one was already firmly established in the Rock, by the time HHH was starting his heel run with Chyna into Stephanie McMahon.

 

[jono]

Flair? This nigga just said RIC FLAIR don't put people over? The stylin and profilin, limousine ridin, jet flyin, WOOOOOOOOO Nature Boy?

GTFOH

You don't reach 16 World Titles but at the same time put over talent, that doesn't even make sense.. Flair in his older Ruthless Aggression WWE days put people over but not in his NWA,WWF and especially his WCW Four Horsemen days

He lost the title 16 times too.

Sting

Kerry Von Erich

Ricky Steamboat

Giant

Vader

Not to mention wresting long matches and draws with the fucking Red Rooster (Terry Taylor), Barry Windham, Scott Steiner and Ricky Morton.

Again who?

Putting guys over isnt just losing its making them look on par with you. He wrestled 45 minutes with Terry Taylor, 45 fuckin minutes with that pos. C'mon B stop it

 

[blu197]

Watch Stings early WCW career. He was constantly putting guys over. The best definition. The Rock is probably the best thing example in the WWE as far as super main event status. Even Orton put over Mark Henry clean at times. Cena with Owens.

Mick Foley put over more guys in the E than Rock to me.. Cena didn't put over Owens, he let Owens beat him clean once (when it wasn't for the Title) then Cena beat him clean 3 times in a row and made him tap

Mick Foley is a good choice. I can see your point with Owens vs Cena. But I gotta agree with Peezy about HHH vs The Rock during the IC days. They were both about the same status, and The Rock kinda skyrocketed pass HHH a bit. I felt in 2000 that The Rock was putting over HHH actually. Alot of guys weee putting HHH over b4 he could put anyone over. You cant be an IC level and "put guys over" unless you been a clear IC level talent for years and is putting new talent over.HHH was on and off IC level b4 he became the DX leader by default after HBKs retirement.

HHH and the Rock were kinda like the Cena and Orton b4 Cena and Orton, except by the time they feuded at the main event, one was already firmly established in the Rock, by the time HHH was starting his heel run with Chyna into Stephanie McMahon.

And Rock was right there still in NOD and in the IC mix with him, Rock and HHH were the top of the mid card at that time and would have ladder matches and i quit matches for the IC Belt...

HBK officially retired in March 1998, Rock got his first World title in November 98 and HHH got his first World title in August 1999 (while still with Chyna) and Foley put over both to give them their first run, Rock was only ahead of HHH in terms of rank on the card for a few months, but Rock and HHH both put eachother over, HHH more so when they were in the mid card and Rock more so when they became Main Eventers

 

[blu197]

Flair? This nigga just said RIC FLAIR don't put people over? The stylin and profilin, limousine ridin, jet flyin, WOOOOOOOOO Nature Boy?

GTFOH

You don't reach 16 World Titles but at the same time put over talent, that doesn't even make sense.. Flair in his older Ruthless Aggression WWE days put people over but not in his NWA,WWF and especially his WCW Four Horsemen days

He lost the title 16 times too.

Sting

Kerry Von Erich

Ricky Steamboat

Giant

Vader

Not to mention wresting long matches and draws with the fucking Red Rooster (Terry Taylor), Barry Windham, Scott Steiner and Ricky Morton.

Again who?

Putting guys over isnt just losing its making them look on par with you. He wrestled 45 minutes with Terry Taylor, 45 fuckin minutes with that pos. C'mon B stop it

I'm not sayin he didn't have good to great matches with household guys (some not), and im not sayin Flair completly buried talent (even though he's buried his share more in the politic game than in the ring) I'm sayin he didn't really put guys over until he was washed up..

And the Wins far outweigh the Losses in 16 World Title runs, unless every Title run you're being booked like Seth Rollins..

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

I already said Hogan, lol at flair he definitely put people over, cena has his time of not doing it at the right time but not as much as hhh. Once again blu is the dumbest Nigga on earth

 

[blu197]

I already said Hogan, lol at flair he definitely put people over, cena has his time of not doing it at the right time but not as much as hhh. Once again blu is the dumbest Nigga on earth

Rusev, Sandow, Ryder, Miz, Wyatt, Barrett, Ziggler ect All guys that were buried or had their momentum killed after feuding with Cena, guys like Edge and Orton survived bc they kept pushing them and CM Punk got lucky bc he's great on the mic..

Cena has multiple squash matches a year. Outside of Booker who has HHH buried or slowed down a guys momentum after a feud?

I know you love Cena bc you're a fruit but you can't sit here and try to say Cena has a shorter burial list than H and puts over more talent without lookin dumb af

 

[Already Home_17]

I already said Hogan, lol at flair he definitely put people over, cena has his time of not doing it at the right time but not as much as hhh. Once again blu is the dumbest Nigga on earth

Rusev, Sandow, Ryder, Miz, Wyatt, Barrett, Ziggler ect All guys that were buried or had their momentum killed after feuding with Cena, guys like Edge and Orton survived bc they kept pushing them and CM Punk got lucky bc he's great on the mic..

Cena has multiple squash matches a year. Outside of Booker who has HHH buried or slowed down a guys momentum after a feud?

I know you love Cena bc you're a fruit but you can't sit here and try to say Cena has a shorter burial list than H and puts over more talent without lookin dumb af

jeff hardy - 2008

RVD - 2002

kane - 2002

Goldberg - 2003 (Goldberg won the title a month later but it was too late)

Steiner - 2003

jericho - in damn near every match they had

orton - WM25 (see goldberg)

cm punk - 2011

none of these guys were buried but their momentum was def. slowed down

 

[blu197]

I already said Hogan, lol at flair he definitely put people over, cena has his time of not doing it at the right time but not as much as hhh. Once again blu is the dumbest Nigga on earth

Rusev, Sandow, Ryder, Miz, Wyatt, Barrett, Ziggler ect All guys that were buried or had their momentum killed after feuding with Cena, guys like Edge and Orton survived bc they kept pushing them and CM Punk got lucky bc he's great on the mic..

Cena has multiple squash matches a year. Outside of Booker who has HHH buried or slowed down a guys momentum after a feud?

I know you love Cena bc you're a fruit but you can't sit here and try to say Cena has a shorter burial list than H and puts over more talent without lookin dumb af

jeff hardy - 2008

RVD - 2002

kane - 2002

Goldberg - 2003 (Goldberg won the title a month later but it was too late)

Steiner - 2003

jericho - in damn near every match they had

orton - WM25 (see goldberg)

cm punk - 2011

none of these guys were buried but their momentum was def. slowed down

Hell no on RVD, you forced tf outta Goldberg and Orton, Steiner was never getting a push, Jeff momentum slowed down due to substance abuse, Kane gained momentum after he first took the mask off...

So only Punk and Jericho, one will be in the WWE Hall of Fame the other won't bc of his beef with Vince and the buisness, so HHH didn't slow their momentum down nearly as bad as Cena did with the guys I've named....

 

[Already Home_17]

there are times where you have the strike when the iron is hot

Goldberg had the whole arena behind him at that sunmerslam PPV. he ran through everyone in the chamber with ease

hhh beat him with one offensive move

momentum slowed

orton took out the entire McMahon family heading into WM25. one of the best build ups to a wwe title match in recent memory. he should've beat hhh at mania for the title. not only did he lose, the match was boring af and didn't produce one memorable moment. orton winning could've been that moment

momentum slowed

you bringing up Kane taking off his mask to gain momentum...8 months after hhh slowed his momentum

stiener was never getting that push? nigga he faced hhh for the title at back to back ppvs. is that not a push? he lost both matches and didn't do shit noteworthy afterwards

momentum slowed

Hardy was the hottest wrestler in fall 2008 and HHH wouldn't lose to him for 3 straight ppvs. had edge not returned to drop the title to Hardy he probably would've never won it. I don't want to hear about hardys substance abuse issue because that didn't stop hhh from dropping the belt to orton

Booker T - we don't need to go there

cena would at least tell an opponent he respects them or takes them seriously. hhh would literally tell damn near every hot act "you're not even in my league" then prove it by beating them

put the cape away. hhh isn't perfect

 

[blu197]

What is the Heel suppose to say, some "you're better than me" shit?? Steiner had a fake push, Vince never thought about giving that nigga the title, he was just a body for HHH to collect, same for Booker, it was just wack how they played Booker by basically rubbing it in with shootish promos that he wasn't gonna win since the feud first started....

Goldberg momentum never slowed at all niggas was still just as hyped when he beat HHH, same for Orton...

Smh at you really tryin to say the shit HHH did for two years is on par with the shit Cena has done close to over a decade..

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

The proof is right there in front of u u bafoon, spit hhh dick out

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

The fact u deny the Goldberg one which is probably the most egregious behind Booker tells us all we need to know

 

[Recaptimus_Prime360]

So Shawn is the consensus goat on the ic? Foh Vince said it himself Austin is the greatest superstar of all time, he "changed" wrestling, was responsible for the greatest era in wwe history, was the biggest reason wwe survived the Monday night wars, and just took it to new levels from its struggletastic years when Shawn was on top

This.

 

[DOPEdweebz]

So Shawn is the consensus goat on the ic? Foh Vince said it himself Austin is the greatest superstar of all time, he "changed" wrestling, was responsible for the greatest era in wwe history, was the biggest reason wwe survived the Monday night wars, and just took it to new levels from its struggletastic years when Shawn was on top

This.

Facts.