Better Overall Wrestler Vol. 2: HBK vs Stone Cold Steve Austin

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dalyricalbandit;8482169 said:
Rock a bigger world wide star than Austin .

Austin is the bigger WWE star.

Austin was # 1 guy

The Rock was the # 2 guy in the AE

They were both #1, Austin was the guy in 97 to 98 but once 99 hit the E was the Rocks, Austin is still a bitch for not wanting to put over Rock until he had no choice in 03..

And Rock was a bigger WWE/F star than Austin, they named all the video games and even the show Smackdown! off of the Rocks catchphrases, Rock was the first to introduce the Xbox to the world and Rock constantly got bigger pops than Austin (from 1999 on) unless a show was in Texas or some redneck state like Alabama, and like you said Rock has always been globally a bigger star while Austin's popularity was mostly in the U.S
 
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We all fuck with rock but let's not act like Austin wasn't bigger remember Austin was the only one being compared to hogan.

Even if u want to call them 1a & 1b remember 1a comes before 1b
 
dont even waste time arguing with that idiot, fam.

we talkin bout wrestling stars n this nigga talm bout "but but but rock introduced the xbox!"

like vince n dem aint said scsa is the biggest draw in wwe history.

not knocking rock but he's a centimeter behind scsa.
 
Peezy_Jenkins;8482934 said:
dont even waste time arguing with that idiot, fam.

we talkin bout wrestling stars n this nigga talm bout "but but but rock introduced the xbox!"

like vince n dem aint said scsa is the biggest draw in wwe history.

not knocking rock but he's a centimeter behind scsa.

Here comes this lame nigga tryin to get into discussions that dont have shit to do with him, look up how Rocks name even got brought up in this thread, it came up from Austin being dubbed the "greatest superstar of all time" NOT "wrestling superstar", Rock is the GOAT Superstar to ever step foot in a WWE ring
 
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blu197;8482994 said:
Peezy_Jenkins;8482934 said:
dont even waste time arguing with that idiot, fam.

we talkin bout wrestling stars n this nigga talm bout "but but but rock introduced the xbox!"

like vince n dem aint said scsa is the biggest draw in wwe history.

not knocking rock but he's a centimeter behind scsa.

Here comes this lame nigga tryin to get into discussions that dont have shit to do with him, look up how Rocks name even got brought up in this thread, it came up from Austin being dubbed the "greatest superstar of all time" NOT "wrestling superstar", Rock is the GOAT Superstar to ever step foot in a WWE ring

who dubbed him that? Vince right? ok then. and not just because of the austin/mc mahon feud u fuckin baffoon, the rock had a bunch of interaction with vince as well

with your dumb ass logic, all the random movie stars that have been in a wwe ring arent far behind, with your dumb ass logic, as soon as channing tatum gets in a wwe ring he'll be number 2

austin is the leader of the biggest boom in wrestling, at least when it comes to wwe, rock being in fast and furious doesnt change that. austin THEN rock had wrestling gettin mainstream coverage again. rock was right next to him but never above him.

lol @ you tryna downplay "wrestling superstar" like the rock would be as big w/o wrestling, kys please.
 
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Rock is GOAT Superstar to step foot in the WWE bc he's the biggest Superstar the E helped create you autistic fuck, simple as that.. I'm gonna have to make thread on this shit bc there's a shit load of reasons why Rock is the bigger superstar than Austin
 
blu197;8483091 said:
Rock is GOAT Superstar to step foot in the WWE bc he's the biggest Superstar the E helped create you autistic fuck, simple as that.. I'm gonna have to make thread on this shit bc there's a shit load of reasons why Rock is the bigger superstar than Austin

please dont, u've done enough.
 
Peezy_Jenkins;8483126 said:
blu197;8483091 said:
Rock is GOAT Superstar to step foot in the WWE bc he's the biggest Superstar the E helped create you autistic fuck, simple as that.. I'm gonna have to make thread on this shit bc there's a shit load of reasons why Rock is the bigger superstar than Austin

please dont, u've done enough.

Do you both got?

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Jussayin?

 
dalyricalbandit;8482726 said:
We all fuck with rock but let's not act like Austin wasn't bigger remember Austin was the only one being compared to hogan.

Even if u want to call them 1a & 1b remember 1a comes before 1b

Austin wasn't a bigger star than Rock, in my eyes and most of the worlds, sorry if it hurts. Many like to use the Rock was in movies as an excuse but Rock didnt do any movies in 1999 when he was being invited to speak in republic national convention, host snl, appear in music videos, etc. Also the Es most profitable year was 2000 with Austin out and Rock leading the wave. And it's a reason Vince gave Rock the match with Hollywood Hogan at Mania (the biggest stars ever in WWF and WCW) while Austin got Scott Hall, Austin even admits he was pissed about that..

Only in the wrestling world is this even considered a debate and Vince will always show favoritism towards Austin bc of the reasons i've said above and it hurts Vinces soul to see a nigga walk out on him that he feel he created and become a bigger success...
 
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the rock being in movies is no excuse

austin was already popular b4 the vince shit, just like rock was already popular b4 austin went down

austin also had outside endeavors

austin never wanted the match with hogan

austin also walked out on vince

austin drew the most money, had the most merch sales, is the leader or the biggest wrestling boom, not the rock

rock being 1b when 1a went down is why wwe didnt take a huge hit, but at best he was tied with austin, never surpassed, on the same level.

if vince shows favoritism to austin its prolly cuz his company would likely be dead w/o austin

only in the wrestling world is this considered a debate cuz we're fuckin talkin about wrestling, in the forum about movie stars, or snl hosts, rock wins every time.
 
Austin never wanted the match with Hogan

Oh word?


i see ima have to make a thread on this shit
 
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i didnt just make this up

It was Hogan's ability to keep himself relevant, and a big-name player, that made fans still want to see him clash with Austin when Hogan returned to World Wrestling Entertainment back in 2002.

To Hogan's credit, he always wanted the match. To Vince McMahon's credit, he tried to make the match happen, but Austin wanted no part of it.

Austin explained plenty of times that he never thought the match would be any good, and didn't want to disappoint the fans with a subpar performance.

In part two of his interview on Jim Ross’ new podcast The Ross Report, Austin was in a reflective mood as he discussed a proposed showdown that would undoubtedly have been one of the biggest WrestleMania matches in the history of the business:

Stone Cold Steve Austin vs. Hulk Hogan.

The match that never was in question would have been staged in 2002 at WrestleMania X8. Hogan had just returned to the WWE as part of the villainous nWo faction alongside Scott Hall and Kevin Nash.

And apparently, it wasn't that the WWE brass weren't keen on staging the contest. As reported by WrestlingInc.com, it was the Rattlesnake himself who was opposed to the idea:

Austin said that at the time he was running real hard and was 'hard headed as hell,' and that he wasn't about to do a job for Hogan because the word then was that Hogan wasn't willing to do the favors for anyone. Austin said that while Hogan was open to having a match, he wasn't because he felt that their styles would clash and that the match wouldn't live up to his standards. At that time, Austin could go and he felt that Hogan would have been a step or two behind him, which wasn't acceptable to him. He won't do a high profile match just for a payoff.

lmao @ u thinkin u makin a thread will solve everything, kys.
 
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Peezy_Jenkins;8483357 said:
i didnt just make this up

It was Hogan's ability to keep himself relevant, and a big-name player, that made fans still want to see him clash with Austin when Hogan returned to World Wrestling Entertainment back in 2002.

To Hogan's credit, he always wanted the match. To Vince McMahon's credit, he tried to make the match happen, but Austin wanted no part of it.

Austin explained plenty of times that he never thought the match would be any good, and didn't want to disappoint the fans with a subpar performance.

lmao @ u thinkin u makin a thread will solve everything, kys.

I post a vid with Austin himself sayin he wanted the Hogan match and you post bullshit with no source? foh
 
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And it funny how niggas love to hate on HHH but Austin also never wanted to put over talent which was the main reason he took his ball and went home...

Not hatin on Austin for it but it's funny how wrestling fans are hypocrites with that shit, they do it with Cena also, if Austin had it his way he would've had a Cena reign before Cena, barring his injuries..
 
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blu197;8483361 said:
Peezy_Jenkins;8483357 said:
i didnt just make this up

It was Hogan's ability to keep himself relevant, and a big-name player, that made fans still want to see him clash with Austin when Hogan returned to World Wrestling Entertainment back in 2002.

To Hogan's credit, he always wanted the match. To Vince McMahon's credit, he tried to make the match happen, but Austin wanted no part of it.

Austin explained plenty of times that he never thought the match would be any good, and didn't want to disappoint the fans with a subpar performance.

lmao @ u thinkin u makin a thread will solve everything, kys.

I post a vid with Austin himself sayin he wanted the Hogan match and you post bullshit with no source? foh

the post said ross report u nincompoop
 
blu197;8483366 said:
And it funny how niggas love to hate on HHH but Austin also never wanted to put over talent which was the main reason he took his ball and went home...

Not hatin on Austin for it but it's funny how wrestling fans are hypocrites with that shit, they do it with Cena also, if Austin had it his way he would've had a Cena reign before Cena, barring his injuries..

its funny how short sighted fuck boys like u mention this w/o the proper context

austin had no prob puttin over brock under proper circumstances, if ur a wrestling fan and u cant see how fuckin stupid it would be for two names like scsa and brock to randomly face of in a 6 min match with no damn buildup to it when it could actually b a last match main event, u need to be watching ping pong and gtfoh.

throwing austin/brock on a random raw drawin no money is just as dumb as throwin goldberg/hogan with just a weeks notice on nitro in a not even sold out georgia dome

he went home cuz of creatives constant dumb shit ideas like that and he gets more hate than he should for standing up and not being booked as a fool and not lettin creative do stupid shit when theres money to b made
 
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hhh gets the hate cuz he was never on the rocks or scsa's level but thought he was and was forced on us as if he was and played the political game for some of his status. also because he had title reigns at time when there were more deserving contenders. shiiddd yall defended kane "greatness" guess who put him over for the title, sure wasnt hhh lmao
 

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