Better Diss on 1.30.16 Meek vs Drake (WWE 2k16 Match inside)

[IceBergTaylor]

This discussion really brings out a crazy thought

At 26 and having been through the Big/Pac, Jay/Nas beefs even the 50/Game beef....

It's strange seeing how

This is this generation's "great" hip-hop feud.

It's not even a great feud to be honest, none of these disses are anything close to the rappers you mentioned. The memes and online forums are the best things about the Meek and Drake beef.

I shoulda clarified. In terms of how widespread this feud has become... I opened up the NY Daily News today and this shit was damn near front page. It might not involve great disses that we heard like Takeover, Ether but it's been a beef ppl have been talking about more so than any other feud I could remember in the last decade

 

[RickyRich]

Drake fans in here really reppin, going Emo for they 6 God lol.

Nah man

It's about content. The most you can say about Meek is his beat was harder and since there are rumors going around that he knew about this song beforehand we can reasonably think that he had the time and opportunity and this is the best he could have done.

Drake in a lazy track compared to back 2 back legitimately made me laugh with the "louder" line. Meek still talking about money in a battle with Drake, he's still talking about Niki in his bed someone Drake likely fucked already and someone Drake already passed of the impression is the star/boss of their relationship.

Meek did come with the truth with the ghost writing but let's be honest the industry doesn't give a shit about that. Ideally fans should, but they don't.

Everyone has called Drake soft, Meek didn't even come up with some funny shit to express that. He was just like "you soft we gonna take yo chains"

We already know Meek is more aggressive than Drake so...

Why em dreamchaser aint try to take ovo chains when they was in the city? . Them niggas jus talks no action. Meeka should know the spots drakw would be at and trust me its easily to find drake in the city .

 

[Melanin_Enriched]

What the fuck is the city?

 

[Candleguy]

Well it took a rat to help him out

eh aint we talking about a guy who gets alot more help than a heads up about a track tho like seriously

That shit is mad hypocritical when talking about this generations mili vanili

You are missing the irony of it

Meek is making for Drake for having help

And then he's using info from the same help to counter Drake. And his counter is still relatively weak compared to other diss songs including Drake's

We already know Drake's flaws but doesn't make Meek efforts looking any better than they are

 

[Trillaaaaaa]

They both fire but I'm leaning more towards Meek's shit right now

And yall know I can't stand TaMeeka

I'm a have to let both records marinate before I vote. Shout out to both emcees

 

[Trillaaaaaa]

I see myself bumpin Drake's track more in the long run and Drizzy finally addressed Tory Lanez hatin ass

I like Meek's beat selection for this track though, shit is hard. This track got me checkin for DC4 now

I wonder what the next round gon sound like. Can Meek keep it goin?

 

[Ghostdenithegawd]

Well it took a rat to help him out

eh aint we talking about a guy who gets alot more help than a heads up about a track tho like seriously

That shit is mad hypocritical when talking about this generations mili vanili

You are missing the irony of it

Meek is making for Drake for having help

And then he's using info from the same help to counter Drake. And his counter is still relatively weak compared to other diss songs including Drake's

We already know Drake's flaws but doesn't make Meek efforts looking any better than they are

wtf is wrong with t

you comparing a nigga getting intel about an on coming attack to a nigga who getting bars written and recording for him to re-record over is not the irony of this

yall niggas be making up wierdo shit to lie to yourselves

the issue is this nigga claiming to be a top mc but has a team of writers like its saturday night live

its not just qm there where other people writing his hooks his pop songs etc

 

[aneed123]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BBNQ85hTNXO/

Charlemagne gonna give Drake donkey of the day lol

50 Cent, Kanye West, Fat Joe, Jarule, Puff Daddy, Cam'Ron, all could have used that advice.....

I guess from CTG's perspective he really didn't have to make a new diss track. Tellin yall in 6 months these idiots will say Drake lost to Meek Mill SMMFH.

You realize how many idiots have said that before this weekend happened though? If you really want someone to lose then they'll look for every type of moral victory til they got one.

First it was but he got ghostwriters.

Then it was white corporate America helped him

Then it was Drake disses weren't effective, it was white girl support and MEMEs that helped Drake.

It's only til half a year later hateful ass niggas can finally say Meek got the better, and even that's debatable.

It's like niggas who hate the Patriots, so instead of giving credit where credit is due, you constantly gotta look for a cheating angle.

Winners focus on winning, losers focus on winners. Both Drake and Meek could learn from that but they both feeding into this negative energy out of pride.

All of the bolded is true, none of which has been used to give Meek any sort of win as much as it's been used to discredit Drake from a Hip-Hop ethics standpoint. The issue has always been, the shit that's been going on the past 6 months isn't healthy for the game in general.

Fuck Meek vs. Drake for a second.

1. Excusing ghostwriting for the amount of content Drake has been exposed dilutes authenticity. Then niggas want to double down on it by saying legend X does it, so it must be OK makes it worse. THEN niggas simultaneously want to complain about how shit / fake the music and game is. It is unhealthy for Hip-Hop.

2. Corporate entities ganging up on any young MC / black brother / Hip-Hop contributor for the sake of lulz, wave riding, dick hopping or anything otherwise indirectly exposes all of us from a cultural standpoint, and sets a dangerous precedent. It is unhealthy for Hip-Hop.

3. Niggas paying more attention to dickhead memes than the actual musical content that stems from said beef is clearly unhealthy for Hip-Hop. Example?

-Niggas constantly reciting "Is that a world tour or your girl's tour" is valid because it's music related.

-Niggas regurgitating the same L memes, and then other niggas basing a win or lose off of said memes is not.

Niggas do not care as much about the victor of this dispute. What they care about is seeing Drake held accountable for his fouls.

Edit: Miss me with that winners, losers lingo BS. Donald Trump is a winner. He is also a terrible human being.

All that to say u dont like drake lol

 

[Lebong James]

still contains more ethers

 

[LcnsdbyROYALTY]

Wayyy too much 'selectiveness' going on here...(yeah it aint a word, but y'all know wtf i mean)

Selectivity maybe

 

[Tsotsi Cape Town]

Be interesting to see what route Drizzy goes with VFT6 in regards to the diss, will he acknowledge Meek in the album? Personally I found Drakes track more venomous, Meek seems like he really could have came with some heavy artillery but that was the best he could do.

Glad Drake cooked Tory Lanez hating ass though, be interesting what happens in Canada now, if they still mess with him etc. Meek sounded good rapping slower, I'm pumped for DC4. Also Future recorded a track with Meek, wonder what the Stans think of that after WATTBA.

 

[Stiff]

shotgun shots that hit tory lanez

"all you niggas in the new toronto wanna be me a little"

shotgun shots? really?

lets all chill wit the fan boy shit yall

shotgun as in it was a broad and widespread shot

settle down

 

[Cutler 26 INT's LOL!]

after multiple listens im fuckin with Drakes song more.

 

[sr_the_freshman]

@sr_the_freshman

But it isn't real tho, its entertainment. We know 50 Cent , Jay-Z and Eazy-E didn't kill all the ppl they claimed to or sold all those drugs. They'd be locked up. There's no way Drake was in aaalll those relationships/experiences. The girls at the video shoots are paid to be there they're not fuckin the rappers (some do), the cars/jewellery is rented and so is the spot. I'm not saying its OK to portray things you aren't there's consequences for that but I'm not following rap blindly believing everything when I know what's up.

It's depressing how much it's changed but everyone played a role in that. 98% of rappers are studio gangsters. The last time it got literal 2Pac and Biggie died for our personal entertainment. I care for music but wtf do you want me to expect from a rapper other than entertainment LOLOL ?? I'm not worshipping no fuckin rapper. To me a rapper is just an author telling a story. Isn't that why we love NaS and Scarface so much ? Seems hypocritical to shun Meek and rappers today for not living their raps when we know NaS wasn't a gangster or selling drugs by the tons either.

The general public should be just as accountable as the rappers they praise to not take things at face value and be critical when presented things. After all its entertainment.

@Sion this fly shit aint gonna work on me, fam. You and I both know there is a middle ground. Its one thing when a nigga isn't being truthful in his raps. Its another thing when the raps he's reciting aren't his at all.

Truth in Hip-Hop doesn't necessarily have to be about being 100% with what your reciting. A nigga who sold drugs may have not sold kilos like he says he did in his raps, but he at least sold drugs. The exaggeration isnt the same as blatant myths. And if a nigga really isn't about that life, then at the very least he can say that he's speaking for another nigga he knows who doesn't have the platform or voice. But at the end of the day, if the life isn't necessarily his, at the very, very least that raps were. Without that, we have nothing authentic or respected in the craft.

Nobody is worshippin' rappers in here except maybe BCotton and his new disciples. The shit is only entertainment to you because niggas aren't holding it to a higher standard. But we both know, that shit isn't true either. Hip-Hop is an amalgam of African American culture. It isn't some separate entity that we lone out to the masses for lols. If thats honestly how you feel, then when the shit finally does get extorted 100% to the point where it no longer is cool or mainstream, don't complain about how black people don't have shit.

 

[achewon87]

 

[StillFaggyAF]

LOL at flagrantly ignoring corporations inviting themselves into this beef by constantly poking fun at Meek, a young african american male at that. But that somehow is passable by Drake fans

Hip-hop is pop culture tho, look at social media and the way even the white kids are talking or referencing. If you go to a white club they're playing Hip-hop not rock and roll. Rap music is no longer confined to us anymore, its literally the dominate form of music across the world.

The ppl running the social media for corporations are young ppl like us, the CEO of Burger King is in his 60s I doubt he has time to tweet let alone know how LOLOL. Corporations don't give a fuck, hip-hop is a business now, has been for over a decade now (see 50 Cent/G-Unit). Don't defend that nigga Meek, corporations used the Kanye/Wiz beef to promote themselves.

And it's still wack

 

[StillFaggyAF]

Niggas cosigning 70 yr old white men and culture vultures I hate yall

 

[R.D.]

Bro them young niggas running them pages

That shit is whatever

 

[GetoBoy]

The same niggas talking bout its too late for Meek to try and come correct on a track gonna be the same ones eating up a 50 diss to Meek no matter when it comes..... It's never to late for a diss track fuck what you heard

 

[Candleguy]

Well it took a rat to help him out

eh aint we talking about a guy who gets alot more help than a heads up about a track tho like seriously

That shit is mad hypocritical when talking about this generations mili vanili

You are missing the irony of it

Meek is making for Drake for having help

And then he's using info from the same help to counter Drake. And his counter is still relatively weak compared to other diss songs including Drake's

We already know Drake's flaws but doesn't make Meek efforts looking any better than they are

wtf is wrong with t

you comparing a nigga getting intel about an on coming attack to a nigga who getting bars written and recording for him to re-record over is not the irony of this

yall niggas be making up wierdo shit to lie to yourselves

the issue is this nigga claiming to be a top mc but has a team of writers like its saturday night live

its not just qm there where other people writing his hooks his pop songs etc

The problem is you're somebody who isn't looking at the big picture. What you call weirdo shit, is actually reality.

Dr Dre & Kanye West will tell you no one who matters gives a shit up who is writing the rhymes. Hell no one is even denying that drake has people write his lyrics so it's not hypocritical to say Meek isn't doing himself any favors with his weak efforts if you acknowledge both truths and analyze the situation.

You sitting there thinking QM is going to jeopardize his business giving Meek intel and I'm telling you Meek getting played like a chump

People (most) who don't care about who writes lyrics are only going to see the irony of Meek getting "help" from QM and still failing.