Better Diss on 1.30.16 Meek vs Drake (WWE 2k16 Match inside)

[IceBergTaylor]

Props for that 48 Laws of Power drop

 

[DOPEdweebz]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BBNQ85hTNXO/

Charlemagne gonna give Drake donkey of the day lol

There's still a 50 Cent factor, and '3Peat' unless Meek heard 3Peat already and is waiting for Drake to drop it. At the moment the quick rebuttal vs the he played the song above you all night and you didnt do shit are the deciding factors right now for most people.

 

[DOPEdweebz]

Drake stans in shambles all over the net calling out "Meek stans" for talking shit about their Papi taking an L but I honestly don't think there are Meek stans. Just neutrals calling it like it is

You're just mad cuz Drake said his pool was bigger than Yeezys. Lets be honest. Im sure youre one of 5 people still caping for Yeezy vs Wiz Khalifa and I havent even been there the last few days.

Man after listening to the Waves snippets then hearing Drakes first single Ye might just run hip hop in 2016

Who you think gonna sell more by the end of the year?

Obviously should be Drake. He's the younger guy that teenagers like more. Who's album will be better should be what really matters tho

I dont think youth is factor. Eminem is like 50 now. You can say thats a white factor but that didnt really help Action Bronson and Machine Gun Kelly. I think if Yeezy has a very good album he could actually go neck for neck or even supercede Drake in sales.

Better is a opinion according to your bias and tastes. People already have a bias opinion on that and haven't even listened to either or yet.

 

[HustleThaDon]

Y'all niggas ruin everything

 

[DOPEdweebz]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BBNQ85hTNXO/

Charlemagne gonna give Drake donkey of the day lol

50 Cent, Kanye West, Fat Joe, Jarule, Puff Daddy, Cam'Ron, all could have used that advice.....

I guess from CTG's perspective he really didn't have to make a new diss track. Tellin yall in 6 months these idiots will say Drake lost to Meek Mill SMMFH.

You realize how many idiots have said that before this weekend happened though? If you really want someone to lose then they'll look for every type of moral victory til they got one.

First it was but he got ghostwriters.

Then it was white corporate America helped him

Then it was Drake disses weren't effective, it was white girl support and MEMEs that helped Drake.

It's only til half a year later hateful ass niggas can finally say Meek got the better, and even that's debatable.

It's like niggas who hate the Patriots, so instead of giving credit where credit is due, you constantly gotta look for a cheating angle.

Winners focus on winning, losers focus on winners. Both Drake and Meek could learn from that but they both feeding into this negative energy out of pride.

 

[R.D.]

So the same nigga who tried to pass a piss test with water was thinking smart and stayed in his room cause he was on probation...that's what y'all going with

Drake all kinds of suckas and dweeb and weirdo in the music but this nigga ain't leave the room and then bragged "they know not to come down here" lmaoo what??????

Props to Nicki cause I know she heard it too, she probably was waiting for the opportunity all night to hold him back and then she just fell asleep

"I'm just a sicko, real sicko when you get to know me nigga" lol yes he is

 

[bck145]

I'm not a Drake fan and DEF not a Meek fan, but if Drake actually wins the Grammy for Killin this nigga on wax, Meek should just Bow Out of the Game on some Ja Rule shit lol

That'll be the Biggest L I've seen a nigga take in a Fair Rap Beef .

What is the competition against Back to Back?

"I just wanna Know"

and he had opportunities to put out more music, but just sat there sneak dissing and Holding Money to his Ear on Instagram photos .

I meant Grammys competition lmaooooooo

Best Rap Performance

J. Cole, “Apparently”

Drake, “Back To Back”

Fetty Wap, “Trap Queen”

Kendrick Lamar, “Alright”

Nicki Minaj feat. Drake & Lil Wayne, “Truffle Butter”

Kanye West feat. Theophilus London, Allan Kingdom & Paul McCartney, “All Day”

How amazing would it be if nicki won with a feature from drake....id like to hear the material that came from that alone

 

[HustleThaDon]

I fucks with war pain

 

[RickyRich]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BBNYnvizPnd/

 

[sr_the_freshman]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BBNQ85hTNXO/

Charlemagne gonna give Drake donkey of the day lol

50 Cent, Kanye West, Fat Joe, Jarule, Puff Daddy, Cam'Ron, all could have used that advice.....

I guess from CTG's perspective he really didn't have to make a new diss track. Tellin yall in 6 months these idiots will say Drake lost to Meek Mill SMMFH.

You realize how many idiots have said that before this weekend happened though? If you really want someone to lose then they'll look for every type of moral victory til they got one.

First it was but he got ghostwriters.

Then it was white corporate America helped him

Then it was Drake disses weren't effective, it was white girl support and MEMEs that helped Drake.

It's only til half a year later hateful ass niggas can finally say Meek got the better, and even that's debatable.

It's like niggas who hate the Patriots, so instead of giving credit where credit is due, you constantly gotta look for a cheating angle.

Winners focus on winning, losers focus on winners. Both Drake and Meek could learn from that but they both feeding into this negative energy out of pride.

All of the bolded is true, none of which has been used to give Meek any sort of win as much as it's been used to discredit Drake from a Hip-Hop ethics standpoint. The issue has always been, the shit that's been going on the past 6 months isn't healthy for the game in general.

Fuck Meek vs. Drake for a second.

1. Excusing ghostwriting for the amount of content Drake has been exposed dilutes authenticity. Then niggas want to double down on it by saying legend X does it, so it must be OK makes it worse. THEN niggas simultaneously want to complain about how shit / fake the music and game is. It is unhealthy for Hip-Hop.

2. Corporate entities ganging up on any young MC / black brother / Hip-Hop contributor for the sake of lulz, wave riding, dick hopping or anything otherwise indirectly exposes all of us from a cultural standpoint, and sets a dangerous precedent. It is unhealthy for Hip-Hop.

3. Niggas paying more attention to dickhead memes than the actual musical content that stems from said beef is clearly unhealthy for Hip-Hop. Example?

-Niggas constantly reciting "Is that a world tour or your girl's tour" is valid because it's music related.

-Niggas regurgitating the same L memes, and then other niggas basing a win or lose off of said memes is not.

Niggas do not care as much about the victor of this dispute. What they care about is seeing Drake held accountable for his fouls.

Edit: Miss me with that winners, losers lingo BS. Donald Trump is a winner. He is also a terrible human being.

 

[soulfulcat]

But who ever stopped in rap beef after 1 diss?

With Jay & Nas(who ever you think won between takeover and ether) they both dropped another diss on bp2 and God's Son

 

[IceBergTaylor]

LOL at flagrantly ignoring corporations inviting themselves into this beef by constantly poking fun at Meek, a young african american male at that. But that somehow is passable by Drake fans

 

[IceBergTaylor]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BBNQ85hTNXO/

Charlemagne gonna give Drake donkey of the day lol

50 Cent, Kanye West, Fat Joe, Jarule, Puff Daddy, Cam'Ron, all could have used that advice.....

I guess from CTG's perspective he really didn't have to make a new diss track. Tellin yall in 6 months these idiots will say Drake lost to Meek Mill SMMFH.

You realize how many idiots have said that before this weekend happened though? If you really want someone to lose then they'll look for every type of moral victory til they got one.

First it was but he got ghostwriters.

Then it was white corporate America helped him

Then it was Drake disses weren't effective, it was white girl support and MEMEs that helped Drake.

It's only til half a year later hateful ass niggas can finally say Meek got the better, and even that's debatable.

It's like niggas who hate the Patriots, so instead of giving credit where credit is due, you constantly gotta look for a cheating angle.

Winners focus on winning, losers focus on winners. Both Drake and Meek could learn from that but they both feeding into this negative energy out of pride.

All of the bolded is true, none of which has been used to give Meek any sort of win as much as it's been used to discredit Drake from a Hip-Hop ethics standpoint. The issue has always been, the shit that's been going on the past 6 months isn't healthy for the game in general.

Fuck Meek vs. Drake for a second.

1. Excusing ghostwriting for the amount of content Drake has been exposed dilutes authenticity. Then niggas want to double down on it by saying legend X does it, so it must OK makes it worse. THEN niggas simultaneously want to complain about how shit / fake the music and game is. It is unhealthy for Hip-Hop.

2. Corporate entities ganging up on any young MC / black brother / Hip-Hop contributor for the sake of lulz, wave riding, dick hopping or anything otherwise indirectly exposes all of us from a cultural standpoint, and sets a dangerous precedent. It is unhealthy for Hip-Hop.

3. Niggas paying more attention to dickhead memes than the actual musical content that stems from said beef is clearly unhealthy for Hip-Hop. Example?

-Niggas constantly reciting "Is that a world tour or your girl's tour" is valid because it's music related.

-Niggas regurgitating the same L memes, and then other niggas basing a win or lose off of said memes is not.

Niggas do not care as much about the victor of this dispute. What they care about is seeing Drake held accountable for his fouls.

I'm not even trying to be an asshole but thats a purist's perspective. It's entertainment plain and simple. The memes is apart of that. It's not the 90s anymore, where its just music, social media plays a huge role in entertainment now. That wasn't around in the 90s. We all know that rap is not real but this is like watching a wrestling fan find out it isn't real and surprised to learn Rick Flair doesn't really have 50 jets or that Rock and Austin are best friends in real life.

And Drake did hone up to the ghostwriter comments and said he'd have no issue being at the forefront of the argument to have the conversation and no one said anything after. It's not even about Drake, niggas just don't like him and would rather he be erased from rap. What do YALL want him to be accountable for ? Being himself ?? It is what it is....

But it NEEDS to be just about the music. There lies the problem. All this other shit is excess unnecessary-ness

 

[DOPEdweebz]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BBNQ85hTNXO/

Charlemagne gonna give Drake donkey of the day lol

50 Cent, Kanye West, Fat Joe, Jarule, Puff Daddy, Cam'Ron, all could have used that advice.....

I guess from CTG's perspective he really didn't have to make a new diss track. Tellin yall in 6 months these idiots will say Drake lost to Meek Mill SMMFH.

You realize how many idiots have said that before this weekend happened though? If you really want someone to lose then they'll look for every type of moral victory til they got one.

First it was but he got ghostwriters.

Then it was white corporate America helped him

Then it was Drake disses weren't effective, it was white girl support and MEMEs that helped Drake.

It's only til half a year later hateful ass niggas can finally say Meek got the better, and even that's debatable.

It's like niggas who hate the Patriots, so instead of giving credit where credit is due, you constantly gotta look for a cheating angle.

Winners focus on winning, losers focus on winners. Both Drake and Meek could learn from that but they both feeding into this negative energy out of pride.

All of the bolded is true, none of which has been used to give Meek any sort of win as much as it's been used to discredit Drake from a Hip-Hop ethics standpoint. The issue has always been, the shit that's been going on the past 6 months isn't healthy for the game in general.

Fuck Meek vs. Drake for a second.

1. Excusing ghostwriting for the amount of content Drake has been exposed dilutes authenticity. Then niggas want to double down on it by saying legend X does it, so it must be OK makes it worse. THEN niggas simultaneously want to complain about how shit / fake the music and game is. It is unhealthy for Hip-Hop.

2. Corporate entities ganging up on any young MC / black brother / Hip-Hop contributor for the sake of lulz, wave riding, dick hopping or anything otherwise indirectly exposes all of us from a cultural standpoint, and sets a dangerous precedent. It is unhealthy for Hip-Hop.

3. Niggas paying more attention to dickhead memes than the actual musical content that stems from said beef is clearly unhealthy for Hip-Hop. Example?

-Niggas constantly reciting "Is that a world tour or your girl's tour" is valid because it's music related.

-Niggas regurgitating the same L memes, and then other niggas basing a win or lose off of said memes is not.

Niggas do not care as much about the victor of this dispute. What they care about is seeing Drake held accountable for his fouls.

Edit: Miss me with that winners, losers lingo BS. Donald Trump is a winner. He is also a terrible human being.

1. Well written, but you're acting as if Drake isnt considered black himself? Isn't black on black? Or are you gonna go with selective colorism?

2. Drake and Donald Trump are both equally bad people? How Sway?

3. Say what you want but the niggas agreeing with you have actually typed Meek is winning, Drake is losing. If it wasn't about winning or choosing brothers wouldn't even have voted or cared to state their opinions on both.

You can make it just being about 'hip hop ethics', or just about corporations, or whatever else BUT this battle or beef encompasses EVERYTHING we're discussing and not just one narrow minded angle you choose to point out. People will make about what is important to them either way. It's all selective, but everyone including you and me got some bias or motive all due to human nature, and there's mothing wrong with that.

We can pick apart each others' stances all day.

 

[IceBergTaylor]

LOL at flagrantly ignoring corporations inviting themselves into this beef by constantly poking fun at Meek, a young african american male at that. But that somehow is passable by Drake fans

Hip-hop is pop culture tho, look at social media and the way even the white kids are talking or referencing. If you go to a white club they're playing Hip-hop not rock and roll. Rap music is no longer confined to us anymore, its literally the dominate form of music across the world.

The ppl running the social media for corporations are young ppl like us, the CEO of Burger King is in his 60s I doubt he has time to tweet let alone know how LOLOL. Corporations don't give a fuck, hip-hop is a business now, has been for over a decade now (see 50 Cent/G-Unit). Don't defend that nigga Meek, corporations used the Kanye/Wiz beef to promote themselves.

All this would be plausible if Meek wasnt singled out by all these corporations who tweeted, IGed and more about the beef taunting him. I didn't see one corporate brand clowning Drake.

Them using the Kanye/Wiz beef to promote themselves dont make it anymore justifiable. It just further solidifies the fact that hip-hop has been whitewashed to the max.

 

[DOPEdweebz]

LOL at flagrantly ignoring corporations inviting themselves into this beef by constantly poking fun at Meek, a young african american male at that. But that somehow is passable by Drake fans

Hip-hop is pop culture tho, look at social media and the way even the white kids are talking or referencing. If you go to a white club they're playing Hip-hop not rock and roll. Rap music is no longer confined to us anymore, its literally the dominate form of music across the world.

The ppl running the social media for corporations are young ppl like us, the CEO of Burger King is in his 60s I doubt he has time to tweet let alone know how LOLOL. Corporations don't give a fuck, hip-hop is a business now, has been for over a decade now (see 50 Cent/G-Unit). Don't defend that nigga Meek, corporations used the Kanye/Wiz beef to promote themselves.

All this would be plausible if Meek wasnt singled out by all these corporations who tweeted, IGed and more about the beef taunting him. I didn't see one corporate brand clowning Drake.

Them using the Kanye/Wiz beef to promote themselves dont make it anymore justifiable. It just further solidifies the fact that hip-hop has been whitewashed to the max.

You act like Drake doesn't get clowned for being soft, being half Jew, being corny, going through females purses and phones in Marvins room, and his Hotline bling moves?

All of the sudden you cry when Meek gets fun of? Aren't you just stan calling other people stans?

 

[IceBergTaylor]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BBNQ85hTNXO/

Charlemagne gonna give Drake donkey of the day lol

50 Cent, Kanye West, Fat Joe, Jarule, Puff Daddy, Cam'Ron, all could have used that advice.....

I guess from CTG's perspective he really didn't have to make a new diss track. Tellin yall in 6 months these idiots will say Drake lost to Meek Mill SMMFH.

You realize how many idiots have said that before this weekend happened though? If you really want someone to lose then they'll look for every type of moral victory til they got one.

First it was but he got ghostwriters.

Then it was white corporate America helped him

Then it was Drake disses weren't effective, it was white girl support and MEMEs that helped Drake.

It's only til half a year later hateful ass niggas can finally say Meek got the better, and even that's debatable.

It's like niggas who hate the Patriots, so instead of giving credit where credit is due, you constantly gotta look for a cheating angle.

Winners focus on winning, losers focus on winners. Both Drake and Meek could learn from that but they both feeding into this negative energy out of pride.

All of the bolded is true, none of which has been used to give Meek any sort of win as much as it's been used to discredit Drake from a Hip-Hop ethics standpoint. The issue has always been, the shit that's been going on the past 6 months isn't healthy for the game in general.

Fuck Meek vs. Drake for a second.

1. Excusing ghostwriting for the amount of content Drake has been exposed dilutes authenticity. Then niggas want to double down on it by saying legend X does it, so it must OK makes it worse. THEN niggas simultaneously want to complain about how shit / fake the music and game is. It is unhealthy for Hip-Hop.

2. Corporate entities ganging up on any young MC / black brother / Hip-Hop contributor for the sake of lulz, wave riding, dick hopping or anything otherwise indirectly exposes all of us from a cultural standpoint, and sets a dangerous precedent. It is unhealthy for Hip-Hop.

3. Niggas paying more attention to dickhead memes than the actual musical content that stems from said beef is clearly unhealthy for Hip-Hop. Example?

-Niggas constantly reciting "Is that a world tour or your girl's tour" is valid because it's music related.

-Niggas regurgitating the same L memes, and then other niggas basing a win or lose off of said memes is not.

Niggas do not care as much about the victor of this dispute. What they care about is seeing Drake held accountable for his fouls.

I'm not even trying to be an asshole but thats a purist's perspective. It's entertainment plain and simple. The memes is apart of that. It's not the 90s anymore, where its just music, social media plays a huge role in entertainment now. That wasn't around in the 90s. We all know that rap is not real but this is like watching a wrestling fan find out it isn't real and surprised to learn Rick Flair doesn't really have 50 jets or that Rock and Austin are best friends in real life.

And Drake did hone up to the ghostwriter comments and said he'd have no issue being at the forefront of the argument to have the conversation and no one said anything after. It's not even about Drake, niggas just don't like him and would rather he be erased from rap. What do YALL want him to be accountable for ? Being himself ?? It is what it is....

But it NEEDS to be just about the music. There lies the problem. All this other shit is excess unnecessary-ness

I agree but that's changed a great deal now, like in sports its a business you gotta be as savvy off the field as you are on the field. It's not as 1+1 anymore. The public doesn't care if you can't land a hit record that's on you but if there's other ways you can win then by all means.

Nowadays we can actually contact celebrities directly through social media and influence their actions or communicate with them. Whether you're at work or at home. It's the gift and the curse.

Man,

I cant even imagine what the hell the Biggie & 2pac beef would have been like in this era.

The Jay & Nas probably never would have squashed the beef in this era.

Way too many other things at play that dont involve the music.

 

[IceBergTaylor]

This discussion really brings out a crazy thought

At 26 and having been through the Big/Pac, Jay/Nas beefs even the 50/Game beef....

It's strange seeing how

This is this generation's "great" hip-hop feud.

 

[qawshun]

I'd give it to meek because he had to sleep with a diss record playing above his head all night, so it was easy to respond to it. But drake shitted on dude he need to go hard as beans did at jada. I think if drake really focus on meek it'll be a wrap

 

[sr_the_freshman]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BBNQ85hTNXO/

Charlemagne gonna give Drake donkey of the day lol

50 Cent, Kanye West, Fat Joe, Jarule, Puff Daddy, Cam'Ron, all could have used that advice.....

I guess from CTG's perspective he really didn't have to make a new diss track. Tellin yall in 6 months these idiots will say Drake lost to Meek Mill SMMFH.

You realize how many idiots have said that before this weekend happened though? If you really want someone to lose then they'll look for every type of moral victory til they got one.

First it was but he got ghostwriters.

Then it was white corporate America helped him

Then it was Drake disses weren't effective, it was white girl support and MEMEs that helped Drake.

It's only til half a year later hateful ass niggas can finally say Meek got the better, and even that's debatable.

It's like niggas who hate the Patriots, so instead of giving credit where credit is due, you constantly gotta look for a cheating angle.

Winners focus on winning, losers focus on winners. Both Drake and Meek could learn from that but they both feeding into this negative energy out of pride.

All of the bolded is true, none of which has been used to give Meek any sort of win as much as it's been used to discredit Drake from a Hip-Hop ethics standpoint. The issue has always been, the shit that's been going on the past 6 months isn't healthy for the game in general.

Fuck Meek vs. Drake for a second.

1. Excusing ghostwriting for the amount of content Drake has been exposed dilutes authenticity. Then niggas want to double down on it by saying legend X does it, so it must OK makes it worse. THEN niggas simultaneously want to complain about how shit / fake the music and game is. It is unhealthy for Hip-Hop.

2. Corporate entities ganging up on any young MC / black brother / Hip-Hop contributor for the sake of lulz, wave riding, dick hopping or anything otherwise indirectly exposes all of us from a cultural standpoint, and sets a dangerous precedent. It is unhealthy for Hip-Hop.

3. Niggas paying more attention to dickhead memes than the actual musical content that stems from said beef is clearly unhealthy for Hip-Hop. Example?

-Niggas constantly reciting "Is that a world tour or your girl's tour" is valid because it's music related.

-Niggas regurgitating the same L memes, and then other niggas basing a win or lose off of said memes is not.

Niggas do not care as much about the victor of this dispute. What they care about is seeing Drake held accountable for his fouls.

I'm not even trying to be an asshole but thats a purist's perspective. It's entertainment plain and simple. The memes is apart of that. It's not the 90s anymore, where its just music, social media plays a huge role in entertainment now. That wasn't around in the 90s. We all know that rap is not real but this is like watching a wrestling fan find out it isn't real and surprised to learn Rick Flair doesn't really have 50 jets or that Rock and Austin are best friends in real life.

And Drake did hone up to the ghostwriter comments and said he'd have no issue being at the forefront of the argument to have the conversation and no one said anything after. It's not even about Drake, niggas just don't like him and would rather he be erased from rap. What do YALL want him to be accountable for ? Being himself ?? It is what it is....

Nah Sion, fuck outta here with the bolded.

I addressed why this is an issue for everyone. Everyone complains about how fake the game is, that includes posters in the IC.

So if you in this thread right now, contributing to the discussion, and your in anyway complaining about the hate Drake is getting you are either A. Content with the how things are (IE Fake, unauthentic, pure entertainment) or B. a Drake stan.

You can't tell me all you care about is the music when the music will be negatively effected as a result of this shit. Fun fact. Ya'll niggas wouldnt have even gotten a Back to Back if Hip-Hop purists would have stayed silent on how wack that shit was while his groupies were out wearing battery pack t-shirts.

Sitting there and saying 'rap is not real' is as defeatist as it is false because there are plenty of niggas who are laying down some authentic, inspiring, real shit as of 2016. The fake shit is allowed to prosper because you niggas let it and go with the wave.

You know what though? Drake did hone up to the ghostwriter shit, albiet in a half ass round about way. And you know why we still have yet to have that conversation? Because:

1. A whole bunch of "I dont care niggas" niggas, Drake's chatty patty female fan base, and white people have out voiced niggas like me who would otherwise be deemed "fossils" or purists.

2. Meek hasn't given us a decent record to rally behind in Hip-Hop spirit literally until this weekend. He is also responsible for his inability to act.

On that note? I rather die a Hip-Hop "fossil" then a fuck nigga.

When they start exposin' niggas in sports for using steroids ya'll gonna be like "-everybody use'm though, so its cool." Come on fam.