Better Center In Their PRIME: Shaquille O'Neal vs Hakeem Olajuwan

[Inglewood_B]

why is Prime Shaq only the 3 peat years? that's kind of convenient

in 2003 as O/P mentioned, lost to spurs (Duncan/old robinson)

Hakeem gave him work in the finals, but he was young.....so is prime only when he was winning chips? that sound like new rules.

it dont matter , not trying to derail thread, Prime shaq was bigger than everyone and left alot to be desired. He never won rebounding title despite being the biggest, strongest, most dominant force in the post.

Hakeem was much more skilled and won with much less

Why is prime Hakeem only 93-95? Pretty convenient that Michael Jordan was gone/rusty those years.

I mean come on fam, you really wanna play that stupid game?

 

[DaBull]

the fact that 93-95 includes the year that Hakeem went to the finals as the star of his squad and defeated Shaq as the star of his team ........in a sweep pretty much answers this thread for me

00-03 shaq faced no one close to the caliber of Dream on the big stage,

 

[Shizlansky]

2000-2001 Shaq would destroy Wilt, Kareem, Hakeem and anyone else in their prime head to head. Even Tim Duncan and David Robinson together didn't know what to do with him

Spurs swept the Lakers in 1999 and Duncan was injured in 2000, it wasn't until Kobe became Kobe for them to get by the Spurs in the playoffs, Spurs had nobody that could guard Kobe but Duncan/Old Robinson usually contained Shaq to an extent

^^^ facts !!

cats love to act like Shaq biggest criticism wasn't him not showing up in the biggest moments ..check them stats of " PRIME shaq " in 2000 game 7 vs Portland .

also in 2001 when the lakers was 15-1 in playoffs ...Kobe DOMINATED the Spurs .

Hakeem played with literal role players ...and an old Clyde

Why you bringing up Kobe like he didn't fold like lawn chair against the Pistons.

Shaq is 4 time champion

3 time finals MVP

Been to finals with 3 different teams.

And showed out every finals.

That's why he's the greatest big man.

fuck the bolded but yeah I hate how Kobe fans gotta act like what Shaq was doin didn't happen, and vice versa, for them to be great.

Kobe my favorite player all time, but we really gotta act like sayin Shaq in his prime was greater than any big man ever, is somehow a diss to Kobe?

I loved both those niggas NH.

I only brought it up because he tried to tear down Shaq by saying Kobe carried him

 

[Shizlansky]

the fact that 93-95 includes the year that Hakeem went to the finals as the star of his squad and defeated Shaq as the star of his team ........in a sweep pretty much answers this thread for me

00-03 shaq faced no one close to the caliber of Dream on the big stage,

Shaq lost more finals than Dream been too and still has more rings.

 

[DaBull]

the question wasnt who had the more successful career

so who has more rings is irrelevant

reading is fundamental

its who had the better 3 year stretch

the Center who swept a finals series vs Shaq during the years mentioned would get my vote...logic is power

 

[blu197]

the fact that 93-95 includes the year that Hakeem went to the finals as the star of his squad and defeated Shaq as the star of his team ........in a sweep pretty much answers this thread for me

00-03 shaq faced no one close to the caliber of Dream on the big stage,

Shaq lost more finals than Dream been too and still has more rings.

This dont make sense, Dream went to 3 Finals and Shaq lost 2 Finals

 

[blu197]

the fact that 93-95 includes the year that Hakeem went to the finals as the star of his squad and defeated Shaq as the star of his team ........in a sweep pretty much answers this thread for me

00-03 shaq faced no one close to the caliber of Dream on the big stage,

Dream 95 Title may be the hardest chip ever won..

Rockets were the 7th seed

Played Stockton/Malone Jazz in round 1, Barkley Suns round 2, MVP David Robinson Spurs round 3 and Shaq Magic squad in the Finals... (But Dream didn't do it dolo this year, Cylde/Elie was major and they probly goin home in G7 or G5 against the Suns w/o him)

 

[KNiGHTS]

Don't feel like looking it up, but these Finals that Shaq got "owned" in ... didn't he average about the same amount of points as Dream? The only difference maker came down to everyone else. I love the Dream's footwork, but keep it real with yourselves: Shaq's Prime didn't officially end until he went to the Heat. He came in in his prime. If I averaged his rookie numbers right now, I'd get a max deal with LeBron/Michael Jordan clauses. (No Crusts on the Bread, or I can opt out, etc.)

He came in a 7'2'' 305 pound Center running the floor with handles, throwing passes, foot work, blocking shots, grabbing boards, and getting steals. His squad lost those Finals games and not by much. The dude was Steph Curry in the post where teams "shut him down" if he dropped 27 instead of 40 ... off dunks.

Devil's Advocate is one thing. Insanity is another.

 

[its....JOHN B]

The fact that Shaq is losing right now is fucking depressing. You IC niggas first pick Iverson >>>> Wade which is at least a debate, but bruh Dream >>> Shaq?!?!! Fucking nonsense this revisionist Dream history needs to stop, he wasn't even considered the best center in the league most of his career as good as he was.

who was?

 

[PanchoYoSancho]

why is Prime Shaq only the 3 peat years? that's kind of convenient

in 2003 as O/P mentioned, lost to spurs (Duncan/old robinson)

Hakeem gave him work in the finals, but he was young.....so is prime only when he was winning chips? that sound like new rules.

it dont matter , not trying to derail thread, Prime shaq was bigger than everyone and left alot to be desired. He never won rebounding title despite being the biggest, strongest, most dominant force in the post.

Hakeem was much more skilled and won with much less

Why is prime Hakeem only 93-95? Pretty convenient that Michael Jordan was gone/rusty those years.

I mean come on fam, you really wanna play that stupid game?

Don't even get me started on Jordan being "rusty" during those 95 playoffs. He was putting up the same numbers in the 95 playoffs as he was during the 2nd 3Peat. They just lost.

Hakeem outplayed Patrick Ewing, David Robinson (league MVP) and Shaq in or near their primes en route to back to back rings. What great Centers did Shaq have to go thru during that 3Peat?

 

[king hassan]

Real talk nobody was stopping prime shaq he was making legends look childish

When Shaq came in the league the "legends" had already been in damn near 10 years. And this was back when they had been to college for four years and by then they were in their 30's when he arrived

 

[lamontbdc]

The Dream was a far better defender and re bounder

 

[PanchoYoSancho]

For the record, in the 95 Finals...

Dream: 32.8 PPG (48.3%)-11.5 REB-5.5 AST-2.0 BLK-2.0 STL..11 Turnovers

Diesel: 28.0 PPG (59.5%)-12.5 REB-6.0 AST-2.5 BLK-0.3 STL..22 Turnovers

Shaq had a slightly higher offensive rating (109-107), but Hakeem had a significantly higher defensive rating (106-115). Overall, Hakeem had a 24.5 Game score to Shaq's 21.8. They led each of their teams.

 

[NothingButTheTruth]

Clearly.

 

[dallas' 4 eva]

How is putting up 28ppg on damn near 60% shooting getting owned? Explain this logic to me please.

 

[Shizlansky]

How is putting up 28ppg on damn near 60% shooting getting owned? Explain this logic to me please.

More rebounds assist and blocks.

 

[dallas' 4 eva]

How is putting up 28ppg on damn near 60% shooting getting owned? Explain this logic to me please.

More rebounds assist and blocks.

But Shaq got 'owned'? These niggas out of control.

 

[themadlionsfan]

The Dream was embarrassing Hall Of Fame players ALL THE TIME

 

[dallas' 4 eva]

The Dream was embarrassing Hall Of Fame players ALL THE TIME

 

[dallas' 4 eva]

The Dream was embarrassing Hall Of Fame players ALL THE TIME

Cool vid, I've seen it, it's impressive, but how is putting up 28ppg on damn near 60% shooting while also averaging more rebounds, assists, and blocks getting owned?