Better Album: "Born Sinner" vs "Nothing Was The Same"

[Siqnih Da Trapper]

Damn do I need to take another listen to born sinner? Lol

 

[Breezy_Kilroy]

Is She Gon Pop should've made the album. that's my shit and idk why.

 

[victory_kid]

As an overall product, I enjoyed listening to NWTS over Born Sinner.

Quite honestly, it took me a while to finish listening to Born Sinner... the vibe of the album is just too dull for me, yes the lyrics are there but lyrics aren't everything. I enjoyed his first album a lot more.

Drake's subject matter and singing isn't for everybody but dude could rap... it is what it is. He's never going to please the rap heads that just want straight lyrics.

 

[usmarin3]

Born sinner had the lyrics, NWTS had the production. Both were disappointments in the long run.

J Cole is delusional about his production and it's holding him back.

Drake is delusional about his singing and it's holding him back.

I dont think its the production tho.. its his hooks thats holding him back to me.. he seem like he went to Lil Boosie School of Hook Making

It's the production. J Cole production has one vibe, dude has no variety in his sound. Can you say J Cole has ever made a club banger(I'm on one) or a street banger (I'm a boss), all his beats are some mellow/jazzy vibe. Even his idol Kanye knows how to diversify his sound, not everything was (Everything i am, Addiction,etc).

I know what im getting from cole and i accept that.. i like his production.. and he is getting pretty good with it imo

And that sir is the problem, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GETTING FROM J COLE. The same fucking shit, he isn't evolving at all, still playing the underdog and making the same type of beats.

 

[silverfoxx]

Born sinner had the lyrics, NWTS had the production. Both were disappointments in the long run.

J Cole is delusional about his production and it's holding him back.

Drake is delusional about his singing and it's holding him back.

I think Cole production peaked at Friday Night Lights. Dude was very good at producing.

His new shit is either sound like he is over thinking it or its not impactful.

 

[andre_1024]

As an overall product, I enjoyed listening to NWTS over Born Sinner.

Quite honestly, it took me a while to finish listening to Born Sinner... the vibe of the album is just too dull for me, yes the lyrics are there but lyrics aren't everything. I enjoyed his first album a lot more...

Cosign everything in this post

 

[DOPEdweebz]

My nigga @usmarin3 in rare form today

 

[CeLLaR-DooR]

Born sinner had the lyrics, NWTS had the production. Both were disappointments in the long run.

J Cole is delusional about his production and it's holding him back.

Drake is delusional about his singing and it's holding him back.

I dont think its the production tho.. its his hooks thats holding him back to me.. he seem like he went to Lil Boosie School of Hook Making

It's the production. J Cole production has one vibe, dude has no variety in his sound. Can you say J Cole has ever made a club banger(I'm on one) or a street banger (I'm a boss), all his beats are some mellow/jazzy vibe. Even his idol Kanye knows how to diversify his sound, not everything was (Everything i am, Addiction,etc).

I know what im getting from cole and i accept that.. i like his production.. and he is getting pretty good with it imo

And that sir is the problem, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GETTING FROM J COLE. The same fucking shit, he isn't evolving at all, still playing the underdog and making the same type of beats.

That's true, but the exact same can be said of Drake. There were zero surprises on NWTS

 

[idoitforhiphop10]

Better production

Fixed

 

[usmarin3]

Born sinner had the lyrics, NWTS had the production. Both were disappointments in the long run.

J Cole is delusional about his production and it's holding him back.

Drake is delusional about his singing and it's holding him back.

I dont think its the production tho.. its his hooks thats holding him back to me.. he seem like he went to Lil Boosie School of Hook Making

It's the production. J Cole production has one vibe, dude has no variety in his sound. Can you say J Cole has ever made a club banger(I'm on one) or a street banger (I'm a boss), all his beats are some mellow/jazzy vibe. Even his idol Kanye knows how to diversify his sound, not everything was (Everything i am, Addiction,etc).

I know what im getting from cole and i accept that.. i like his production.. and he is getting pretty good with it imo

And that sir is the problem, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GETTING FROM J COLE. The same fucking shit, he isn't evolving at all, still playing the underdog and making the same type of beats.

That's true, but the exact same can be said of Drake. There were zero surprises on NWTS

I agree but atleast Drake has presence about him and make it a point to make entertaining music. J Cole borderline dellusional about his production ability and it's so obvious it's the thing that's holding him back as a artist.

Why was The Warm Up and FNL so good, because half of the beats weren't his. lol

 

[idoitforhiphop10]

Born sinner had the lyrics, NWTS had the production. Both were disappointments in the long run.

J Cole is delusional about his production and it's holding him back.

Drake is delusional about his singing and it's holding him back.

I dont think its the production tho.. its his hooks thats holding him back to me.. he seem like he went to Lil Boosie School of Hook Making

It's the production. J Cole production has one vibe, dude has no variety in his sound. Can you say J Cole has ever made a club banger(I'm on one) or a street banger (I'm a boss), all his beats are some mellow/jazzy vibe. Even his idol Kanye knows how to diversify his sound, not everything was (Everything i am, Addiction,etc).

I know what im getting from cole and i accept that.. i like his production.. and he is getting pretty good with it imo

And that sir is the problem, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GETTING FROM J COLE. The same fucking shit, he isn't evolving at all, still playing the underdog and making the same type of beats.

That's true, but the exact same can be said of Drake. There were zero surprises on NWTS

I agree but atleast Drake has presence about him and make it a point to make entertaining music. J Cole borderline dellusional about his production ability and it's so obvious it's the thing that's holding him back as a artist.

Why was The Warm Up and FNL so good, because half of the beats weren't his. lol

Most of them were his tho.

 

[usmarin3]

Born sinner had the lyrics, NWTS had the production. Both were disappointments in the long run.

J Cole is delusional about his production and it's holding him back.

Drake is delusional about his singing and it's holding him back.

I dont think its the production tho.. its his hooks thats holding him back to me.. he seem like he went to Lil Boosie School of Hook Making

It's the production. J Cole production has one vibe, dude has no variety in his sound. Can you say J Cole has ever made a club banger(I'm on one) or a street banger (I'm a boss), all his beats are some mellow/jazzy vibe. Even his idol Kanye knows how to diversify his sound, not everything was (Everything i am, Addiction,etc).

I know what im getting from cole and i accept that.. i like his production.. and he is getting pretty good with it imo

And that sir is the problem, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GETTING FROM J COLE. The same fucking shit, he isn't evolving at all, still playing the underdog and making the same type of beats.

That's true, but the exact same can be said of Drake. There were zero surprises on NWTS

I agree but atleast Drake has presence about him and make it a point to make entertaining music. J Cole borderline dellusional about his production ability and it's so obvious it's the thing that's holding him back as a artist.

Why was The Warm Up and FNL so good, because half of the beats weren't his. lol

Most of them were his tho.

About half of them were, the rest were Kanye, Pac, J Dilla,etc beats.

 

[idoitforhiphop10]

FNL:

Intro

Before Im Gone

You Got It

Enchanted

Blow Up

Higher

The Autograph

Cost Me A lot

Premeditated Murder

Home for the Holidays

Love Me not

See world

Farewell

All prod by Cole

 

[idoitforhiphop10]

TWU:

Intro

Welcome

Grown Simba

Lights Please

I Get Up

My World Is Empty

Dreams

Dollar and a Dream II

Get Away

Ladies

The Badness

Hold It Down

Losing My Balance

All prod by cole

 

[usmarin3]

Dreams is the same beat as Drive Slow and Shsawty wanna be a thug.

Intro to. Fnl is Dillas beat

See World is Tupacs Pain beat

 

[usmarin3]

Get by

Dead presidents

Dreams

Royal flush

Water break

Knock knock

Till infinity

Intro

Back to the topic

Villmatic

In the morning

Best friend

See workd

Looking for trouble

Thats ddamn near half the albums that he aint produced.

 

[Siqnih Da Trapper]

Damn cole this damn good? Eating drake ass up with the votes lol do I need to give his album another listen?

 

[qawshun]

Yup

 

[idoitforhiphop10]

Dreams is the same beat as Drive Slow and Shsawty wanna be a thug.

Intro to. Fnl is Dillas beat

See World is Tupacs Pain beat

Same sample, not the same beat. Big difference bruh. I like how ur overlookin the fact that the best songs on the tape were produced by Cole.

@KingGivBiz yo bruh, can u delete those three post before my FNL post. my mobile was fuckin up fam.

 

[usmarin3]

The songs he didn't produce have more life to It. There is a reason why his two albums have come up short. His sound is very linear